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#51 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Its Americanbeldugo

the japanese buy many american products. your point is moot.

all i can think off is that they dont like foreigner taking over.. they want to be preservative.
but i would like to know what do you think of that though dreams-visions.

I think they will buy what is good and what presents the games they want in a ****and approach that appeals to their **** Less "bling", more streamlined, simple and efficiently-**** user-interface. And hype that brings out emotion, visceral reactions (ie, Sony E3 2005 CG vids). Those can help. As long as the 360 keeps making Devs money, they will slowly put faith into it. But people forget that the Xbox brand is a baby. PlayStation has been making devs comfortable for some 15 years. Nintendo for 20+ years. Xbox...well, it's still establishing itself.

 

 

in america we accept everything, we dont  dismiss something because its not made in america.
now if you played ffxi i would show you how japanese act. when they go looking for a party they say they want to party with Japanese only people.

i dont know why.. they think the rest of the world dont have skills or something.. they think they are superior or have more knowledge.. i wont never know until i learn japanese...
we all know all does incoming 360 rpg are better or as good as the rpg.. we all know MS is trying hard making stuff for them.. why dont they buy it. its no excuse.

1.) We live by free trade in America.  For good and for bad.  if their product is better, the we can't fault the consumer for going to the better-made product, right?  Hence the success of Honda and Toyota.  If their product was inferior or equal to what the Big 3 have been putting out, we'd not see Honda or Toyota making headlines or even being significant.

2.) FFXI - Idunno about that.  Perhaps they want to game with people that can speak their language?  Perhaps there's a social/cultural piece there that they can really appreciate.  Inside jokes they can tell each other that we might not understand or appreciate?  maybe because it makes them feel most comfortable?  You'd have to ask them, but there are plenty of reasons why people gravitate towards "their own". 

3.) They don't think they rest of the world is inferior.  I don't even know who would have given you that impression.  But many of them are hard-workers and hustlers that don't have the same kind of emotional baggage many American's struggle with, which helps.

4.) I'd recommend you learn Japanese.  And Chinese (Mandarin) as well.  If you want to make an impact in the 21st century, anyway.

5.) We don't know how well the 360 will do JRPGs.  We have only 1 good one so far: Blue Dragon.  It sold many 360's.  We don't know about the others yet.  We also know the biggest JRPG franchises are on other consoles.  That's a problem for the 360.

6.) If the games don't appeal, they won't buy.  That simple.

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#52 cheatymcshifty
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Japanese not buying American consoles is pretty bad.

Whats worse, are Americans buying Japanese consoles.

billing

WTF?

People invest money in what they can trust. Things that have proven the test of time. The Xbox brand is still working on that. Just because many Japanese gamers are hesitant to drop a bunch of dough into a console that might not have their favorite types of games doesn't make that fact a "bad" one.

Remember, we buy Japanese consoles because we *always* have. Because they essentially started consoles.

I don't know about you but I buy consoles for the games.

360 has the best games of every genre.

If your too ignorant to understand that Japanese are biased towards American Consoles then I feel sorry for you,

Just don't give this BS about "People invest money in what they can trust"

 

 

Your so right, everyone but you is so ignorant, because they arent xbox fanboys and dont think it and halo are the greatest things ever to happen to console gaming.

 So ignornant thinking that ANY 360's get the 3 rings, I mean, mine hasent, so none have, ignorant fools... 

Ignorant thinking Halo isint the best game (or at least, FPS) ever made, It's not like theres 10 or more better PC FPS's on the market  that are better than Halo

Ignorant Japanese, obviously those 370k Japanese that bought it are the ONLY Japanese who arent totally ignorant.

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Because it is poorly built perhaps? both xbox's were/are extremely prone to crapping out early in their lifespans, not to mention the fact the first xbox (possibly ahead of its time here) was an eyesore and a huge one at that.  The Ipod seems to sell well in Japan and they took well to American fast food chains so why assume they are anti-american just because they believe one product (which in all honesty is not very reliable) is inferior.
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#54 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="billing"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="billing"]

Japanese not buying American consoles is pretty bad.

Whats worse, are Americans buying Japanese consoles.

cheatymcshifty

WTF?

People invest money in what they can trust. Things that have proven the test of time. The Xbox brand is still working on that. Just because many Japanese gamers are hesitant to drop a bunch of dough into a console that might not have their favorite types of games doesn't make that fact a "bad" one.

Remember, we buy Japanese consoles because we *always* have. Because they essentially started consoles.

I don't know about you but I buy consoles for the games.

360 has the best games of every genre.

If your too ignorant to understand that Japanese are biased towards American Consoles then I feel sorry for you,

Just don't give this BS about "People invest money in what they can trust"

 

 

Your so right, everyone but you is so ignorant, because they arent xbox fanboys and dont think it and halo are the greatest things ever to happen to console gaming.

 So ignornant thinking that ANY 360's get the 3 rings, I mean, mine hasent, so none have, ignorant fools... 

Ignorant thinking Halo isint the best game (or at least, FPS) ever made, It's not like theres 10 or more better PC FPS's on the market  that are better than Halo

Ignorant Japanese, obviously those 370k Japanese that bought it are the ONLY Japanese who arent totally ignorant.

Cynicism is the recourse of the lazy and is ALWAYS a worthless exercise of brain power.  Your post would have been worth something if you had simply made a meaningful comment.

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#55 Dreams-Visions
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Because it is poorly built perhaps? both xbox's were/are extremely prone to crapping out early in their lifespans, not to mention the fact the first xbox (possibly ahead of its time here) was an eyesore and a huge one at that.  The Ipod seems to sell well in Japan and they took well to American fast food chains so why assume they are anti-american just because they believe one product (which in all honesty is not very reliable) is inferior.csliney

people with these ignorant impressions of the East will always exist.  I've been looking at threads like this for years.  same old, same old.

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#56 cheatymcshifty
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[QUOTE="cheatymcshifty"][QUOTE="billing"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="billing"]

Japanese not buying American consoles is pretty bad.

Whats worse, are Americans buying Japanese consoles.

Dreams-Visions

WTF?

People invest money in what they can trust. Things that have proven the test of time. The Xbox brand is still working on that. Just because many Japanese gamers are hesitant to drop a bunch of dough into a console that might not have their favorite types of games doesn't make that fact a "bad" one.

Remember, we buy Japanese consoles because we *always* have. Because they essentially started consoles.

I don't know about you but I buy consoles for the games.

360 has the best games of every genre.

If your too ignorant to understand that Japanese are biased towards American Consoles then I feel sorry for you,

Just don't give this BS about "People invest money in what they can trust"

 

 

Your so right, everyone but you is so ignorant, because they arent xbox fanboys and dont think it and halo are the greatest things ever to happen to console gaming.

So ignornant thinking that ANY 360's get the 3 rings, I mean, mine hasent, so none have, ignorant fools...

Ignorant thinking Halo isint the best game (or at least, FPS) ever made, It's not like theres 10 or more better PC FPS's on the market that are better than Halo

Ignorant Japanese, obviously those 370k Japanese that bought it are the ONLY Japanese who arent totally ignorant.

Cynicism is the recourse of the lazy and is ALWAYS a worthless exercise of brain power. Your post would have been worth something if you had simply made a meaningful comment.

I disagree with both those statements.

And JDM emissions are actually easier to pass, you basically just have to pay more if it goes past a certain amount. Japanese cars generally have slightly higher emissions than there US counterparts, as the engines have a bit higher compression there

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#58 beldugo
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[QUOTE="beldugo"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="beldugo"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Its AmericanDreams-Visions

the japanese buy many american products. your point is moot.

all i can think off is that they dont like foreigner taking over.. they want to be preservative.
but i would like to know what do you think of that though dreams-visions.

I think they will buy what is good and what presents the games they want in a ****and approach that appeals to their **** Less "bling", more streamlined, simple and efficiently-**** user-interface. And hype that brings out emotion, visceral reactions (ie, Sony E3 2005 CG vids). Those can help. As long as the 360 keeps making Devs money, they will slowly put faith into it. But people forget that the Xbox brand is a baby. PlayStation has been making devs comfortable for some 15 years. Nintendo for 20+ years. Xbox...well, it's still establishing itself.

 

 

in america we accept everything, we dont dismiss something because its not made in america.
now if you played ffxi i would show you how japanese act. when they go looking for a party they say they want to party with Japanese only people.

i dont know why.. they think the rest of the world dont have skills or something.. they think they are superior or have more knowledge.. i wont never know until i learn japanese...
we all know all does incoming 360 rpg are better or as good as the rpg.. we all know MS is trying hard making stuff for them.. why dont they buy it. its no excuse.

1.) We live by free trade in America. For good and for bad. if their product is better, the we can't fault the consumer for going to the better-made product, right? Hence the success of Honda and Toyota. If their product was inferior or equal to what the Big 3 have been putting out, we'd not see Honda or Toyota making headlines or even being significant.

2.) FFXI - Idunno about that. Perhaps they want to game with people that can speak their language? Perhaps there's a social/cultural piece there that they can really appreciate. Inside jokes they can tell each other that we might not understand or appreciate? maybe because it makes them feel most comfortable? You'd have to ask them, but there are plenty of reasons why people gravitate towards "their own".

3.) They don't think they rest of the world is inferior. I don't even know who would have given you that impression. But many of them are hard-workers and hustlers that don't have the same kind of emotional baggage many American's struggle with, which helps.

4.) I'd recommend you learn Japanese. And Chinese (Mandarin) as well. If you want to make an impact in the 21st century, anyway.

5.) We don't know how well the 360 will do JRPGs. We have only 1 good one so far: Blue Dragon. It sold many 360's. We don't know about the others yet. We also know the biggest JRPG franchises are on other consoles. That's a problem for the 360.

6.) If the games don't appeal, they won't buy. That simple.

1. what do honda and toyota have to do with gaming?

2. trust me.. i myself am always a party leader and i even use google translator to act nice to them but they still say no.. while even the french,german, hatians welcome us with open arm. hell, even the chinese money trader accept us more than them. 

 3. see japanese world war 2 and their history.. not pearl harbor but before that, agains the chinese and what they think about it now.

4.japanese and chinese dont help.. in the other hand you should learn spanish i already did more useful. 

 5. famitsu and their momma are praising all does jrpgs, the rpgs are coming from the most famous delevoper (guy that invented ff), composer, drawer etc...

6. you are gonna tell me that 360 doesn't have games specially made to appeal to japanese audience? bullet witch, tenchu, all the jrpgs, shooter game forgot name, that idol masterwhatever its call, 99nights.. and a lot more i saw on market place. 

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#59 shungokustasu
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="munsoned"][QUOTE="KillaHalo2o9"]Its Americanmunsoned

yep, japs think if they dont buy a system it will fail and give up. its been true in the past. can ms change that is the real question...

why are you speaking as if they have a homogenous mindset? how old are you?

huh?dont worry how old i am im not a gurl and im not gay

 

ROFL...sig wortyh 

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#60 kungfuchaos
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At the end of the day, as long as the 360 does better than the original XBOX did in Japan, the MS has succeeded over there. They know they cant win Japan over with  Sony and Nintendo having the presence that they do. The funny thing is that the PS3 isnt doing much better!!!