Microsoft to blow everyone away at HotChips

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

First problem: No link

Second Problem: the OP is a mess

Third problem: You keep posting

Why does everyone love bacon so much?

I smell BS..

Even if it isn't, its a pretty bad strategy from MS..

edit:

Yea this is lol worthy :lol:

Your gonna get banned if you dont stop. TheKingIAm

Your gonna get banned if you dont stop. TheKingIAm

Why would you try and stop him?

So literally anyone can anonymously post on pastebin pretending to be an industry insider and we all believe it?Ninja-Hippo

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]So literally anyone can anonymously post on pastebin pretending to be an industry insider and we all believe it?CallOfDutyRulez

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

Where?? :|

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]So literally anyone can anonymously post on pastebin pretending to be an industry insider and we all believe it?dream431ca

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

Where?? :|

Xbox ONE uses a ton of electricity - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an upclock - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an updated driver - Confirmed

All the negative rumors = false - Confirmed --> This means 12 GB RAM for final version, as all xbox ONE is devkit, and devkit has 12 GB of RAM.

8 GB of DDR3 RAM + 4 GB of new type RAM.

Xbox ONE using GCN 2.0 - Will be confirmed at Hotchips, as there is no reason to have 12 GB of RAM with a 1.31 TF GPU.

Not sure about this. I would think that they would not let the bad PR of the PS4's better hardware go on this long if that was the case.

However, if they knew the XB1 would be sold out well before late September, then maybe this would be a good way to build launch momentum beyond games.

Still, very skeptical.

LOL rumour. One thing I know is fact though is that dev tools have been vastly improved recently. Some devs were complaining that they lagged behind, but not anymore :cool:RR360DD

Why does everyone love bacon so much?

ninjapirate2000

I do not think it is a good idea to attempt to hijack this thread.

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]LOL rumour. One thing I know is fact though is that dev tools have been vastly improved recently. Some devs were complaining that they lagged behind, but not anymore :cool:Suppaman100

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

CallOfDutyRulez

Where?? :|

Xbox ONE uses a ton of electricity - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an upclock - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an updated driver - Confirmed

All the negative rumors = false - Confirmed --> This means 12 GB RAM for final version, as all xbox ONE is devkit, and devkit has 12 GB of RAM.

8 GB of DDR3 RAM + 4 GB of new type RAM.

Xbox ONE using GCN 2.0 - Will be confirmed at Hotchips, as there is no reason to have 12 GB of RAM with a 1.31 TF GPU.

Still no facts, still no Link, all Unconfirmed. Do I need to post the definition of fact to you? :|

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"]Your gonna get banned if you dont stop. Gargus

Why would you try and stop him?

Were is the source for this?

Were is the source for this?

super600

:lol: at the OP. So much Bullshit. This thread needs something, and I know just what it is. 

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol: at the OP. So much Bullshit. This thread needs something, and I know just what it is. 

Jonwh18

..

So you're saying Microsoft's strategy is to secretly announce a much weaker machine than they really have at the biggest and most publicised trade show in the industry, and to keep top secret the fact that their machine is actually a BEAST so that they can surprise everyone with the shock revelation at a much smaller and more obscure event that most people wont know even exists?

>implying this isn't so dumb that it sounds like something Steve Ballmer would actually do

Why does everyone love bacon so much?

ninjapirate2000

Cos awesome.

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

:lol: at the OP. So much Bullshit. This thread needs something, and I know just what it is. 

TheKingIAm

So you're saying Microsoft's strategy is to secretly announce a much weaker machine than they really have at the biggest and most publicised trade show in the industry, and to keep top secret the fact that their machine is actually a BEAST so that they can surprise everyone with the shock revelation at a much smaller and more obscure event that most people wont know even exists? >implying this isn't so dumb that it actually sounds like something Steve Ballmer would actually doNinja-Hippo

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

:lol: at the OP. So much Bullshit. This thread needs something, and I know just what it is. 

clyde46

Beef bacon !!

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

CallOfDutyRulez

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

Tighaman

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

CallOfDutyRulez

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

I have a follow up question. Is game performance purely based on the specs of the console alone?

[QUOTE="TheKingIAm"][QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

:lol: at the OP. So much Bullshit. This thread needs something, and I know just what it is. 

clyde46

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]I like how you stole my post and used it for you own but it's all good as long as you read more you spit that bull out of your brain sometimes:D

dream431ca

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

I have a follow up question. Is game performance purely based on the specs of the console alone?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]So literally anyone can anonymously post on pastebin pretending to be an industry insider and we all believe it?CallOfDutyRulez

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

Stop trolling the lems, lol.

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Parasite76: Sorry everyone, I've been very busy lately. I did manage to have lunch with my friend couple weeks ago and he was pretty excited about what he told me. First of all, they have the final devkits now and they are basically the retail console. The big news is, they are 12gbs but 4gbs are not the same type of memory.

It is not ddr3. He is not sure what it is tho, he still thinks its a new type. Here is a shocker, the system is much more powerful and easier to develop on with some recent driver support from Microsoft. Here is some interesting tidbits, Microsoft, apparently had crytek and turn 10 both, display their games using a much earlier version then where they was currently at because they did not want to reveal true power.

This is the reason we haven't seen watchdogs since 2012. Ubi cannot show the x1 version because it is way ahead of ps4 and it even shows it at pre alpha! Microsoft is telling all developers who have level 3 information clearance that after September 21, they can finally play show and tell.

What is information clearence you ask? What I'm about to tell you is why there is so much conflicting information out there. There are 4 levels of information confidentiality with Microsoft concerning Xbox 1.

Level 1 are Indy devs who get just enough support to make their games and that's it. Level 2 are smaller third party devs, who get more advanced documentation on specific functions of hardware and tools. This level was lagging behind in what they was given, which explains all the "esram ram 200gbs talk".

Its not that Microsoft doesn't trust them, its because they are multiplatform developers and Microsoft cannot control the level of security there. The only thing overlooked is Microsoft did not take how much networking goes on behind closed doors between some individuals in the development community. level 1 have advanced documentation and advanced information on the hardware. These people really know how much better the x1 is over the ps4 but they are kept silent by NDA and additional funding for their projects by Microsoft. Ubi, rockstar, Activision ect... Would fall into this category.

Finally, there is level X. level x is all Microsoft 1st party and a handful of 3rd party who have a very good relationship with Microsoft and coincidently, are getting huge amounts of money and support from Microsoft. Level X know everything about the hardware, from real band with, real gpu, ray tracing and much more not revealed. Crytek, Activision and electronic arts fall into this category. Sadly I have some news regarding red dead rebellion, it will be multi platform now but rest assured looks better in x1.

This is all I have for now but soon, it will be all out in the open. My feeling is at hit chips, you are going to see power 8. You are going to see stacked and you're going to see gcn 2.0. Then, after you see all those, Microsoft is going to reveal the x1 to the world for the very first time, complete and monstrously powerful, utilizing all of those techs in one closed box. It really will be the 50 megaton we've all been waiting for. I'll see you all here to celebrate our victory!

CallOfDutyRulez

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

TheKingIAm

I have a follow up question. Is game performance purely based on the specs of the console alone?

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]I like how you stole my post and used it for you own but it's all good as long as you read more you spit that bull out of your brain sometimes:D

Tighaman

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

Will it look as good as The Last of Us or at least Uncharted 1?

make it stop.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

TheKingIAm

I have a follow up question. Is game performance purely based on the specs of the console alone?

Hmmm...so Gears of War on 360 runs great and looks great but The Last Remnant (also on 360) runs like crap? But both of these games are on exactly the same hardware and use the same engine. :?

LOL rumour. One thing I know is fact though is that dev tools have been vastly improved recently. Some devs were complaining that they lagged behind, but not anymore :cool:RR360DD

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I have a question. Why was a last-gen looking game running at sub-1080p at 40 FPS on the xbox ONE? :|

CallOfDutyRulez

Will it look as good as The Last of Us or at least Uncharted 1?

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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Tighaman"]titanfall will be playable at gamescon at you will shut your mouth about that and move on bashing the next Xbox one game the game look fun and smooth I don't care about dips in a cutscene only game play

Tighaman

Will it look as good as The Last of Us or at least Uncharted 1?

Honestly, I'm genuinely curious. You guys are like the Alex Jones of the Console Wars.

You claimed that Microsoft is hiding the specs of their console because they want to keep Apple and Google away from the living room, correct? I'm not seeing a connection here. Why not crush SONY and solidify your marketshare this gen? Why create a massive PR **** that could potentially permanently screw over Microsoft in the living room?

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Xbox ONE uses up a ton of electricity. They're using powerful stuff inside. All the facts point to a significantly powerful machine.

CallOfDutyRulez

Where?? :|

Xbox ONE uses a ton of electricity - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an upclock - Confirmed

Xbox ONE gets an updated driver - Confirmed

All the negative rumors = false - Confirmed --> This means 12 GB RAM for final version, as all xbox ONE is devkit, and devkit has 12 GB of RAM.

8 GB of DDR3 RAM + 4 GB of new type RAM.

Xbox ONE using GCN 2.0 - Will be confirmed at Hotchips, as there is no reason to have 12 GB of RAM with a 1.31 TF GPU.