Microsoft: We'll always take on Sony's first-party titles

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#151 killab2oo5
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What are they using to counter Little Big Planet?
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#152 sargentbotk
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I lied the part when he was talking about their titles each holiday season. They actually hype and talk about what they believe are ready and AAA quality games. I couldn't agree with him more about their first party published games compared to Sony's.

Without LBP, I'd think that Sony's first party line-up would look so dry.

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#153 MonkeyStyle5389
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What are they using to counter Little Big Planet?killab2oo5
Price cut, Banjo, and Viva They are hoping for the best, which won't be that great imo.
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#154 speedsix
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And why are people arguing over who develops what? What effect does this have on the end product exactly?

I suppose people can't argue who has the highest rated library of games (we all know the answer to this) so we must resort to arguing over trivial nonsense like this.

Oh well, I hope the Sony fans gain some pleasure from such a pointless fact.

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#155 rgame1
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correct me if I'm wrong, but Gears is not 1st party. its just an exclusive contract with a 3rd party dev. kinda like Sony and Level 5 with Dark Cloud and White Knight.xxThyLordxx

no gears belongs to MS.

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#156 Ragnarok1051
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And why are people arguing over who develops what? What effect does this have on the end product exactly?

I suppose people can't argue who has the highest rated library of games (we all know the answer to this) so we must resort to arguing over trivial nonsense like this.

Oh well, I hope the Sony fans gain some pleasure from such a pointless fact.

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It was someone from MS who said it, so I guess they started it.

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#157 ProductNumber49
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[QUOTE="Nagidar"]Read it again, he said "First party Publishing", as in, games Published by them, the First-party. (MS Game Studios)xxThyLordxx

sorry. did not notice that. even still, MS 1st party is weak.

Lol...okay

You just added that up because you had nothing more to say.

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#158 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"]Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Clap Hanz - Hot Shots Golf series Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo series, Motor Toon Grand Prix series, Omega Boost SCE Japan Studio (Project SIREN Team, etc.) - Ape Escape series, LocoRoco Team ICO - ICO, Shadow of the Colossus SCEI Subsidiary DivisionsSony Computer Entertainment America Inc. Incognito Entertainment - Twisted Metal series, Warhawk Naughty Dog - Jak series, Uncharted SCE Bend Studio (formerly Eidetic) - Syphon Filter series SCE Foster City Studio - Jet Li: Rise to Honor SCE San Diego Studio - The Mark of Kri, NBA '07 SCE Santa Monica Studio - God of War, Kinetica Sony Online Entertainment LLC. - EverQuest Zipper Interactive - SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs series

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd.

Bigbig Studios - Pursuit Force Evolution Studios - MotorStorm Guerrilla Games - Killzone series SCE London Studio (includes Team SOHO & Camden) - The Getaway series, SingStar series SCE Studio Cambridge (formerly Millennium Interactive) - MediEvil series, Primal SCE Studio Liverpool (formerly Psygnosis) - Wipeout series, F1 series

Sony Computer Entertainment Korea Inc.

SCE Korea - EyeToy: EduKids, GloRace: Phantastic Carnival

Sony Computer Entertainment owned franchises:

AlundraApe EscapeArc the LadATV Offroad FuryBeyond the BeyondBuzz!Calling All Cars!Colony WarsCool BoardersDark CloudDestruction DerbyDownhill DominationDropship: United Peace ForceGangs of LondonGhosthunterEchochromeExterminationEyeToyFantaVisionFolkloreFormula OneGenjiGod of WarGran TurismoGrind SessionHeavenly SwordHot Shots GolfICOInFamousIntelligent QubeJak and DaxterJet MotoKileak: The DNA ImperativeKillzoneKineticaLairLegend of LegaiaLemmingsLittleBigPlanetLocoRocoMediEvilMLBMotor Toon Grand PrixMotorStormNBA ShootOutNCAA Final FourNCAA GameBreakerNFL GameDayNFL XtremeNHL FaceOffOkage: Shadow KingOmega BoostPaRappa the RapperPhilosomaPoPoLoCroisPorsche ChallengePrimalPursuit ForceRally CrossRatchet & ClankResistanceRogue GalaxyShadow of the ColossusSingStarSirenSky OdysseySly CooperSOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALsSyphon FilterThe GetawayThe Legend of DragoonThe Mark of KriTurbo Prop RacingTwisted MetalUnchartedWar of the MonstersWarhawkWhite Knight StoryWild ArmsWipeoutXtreme Games

wow i guess resistance is 2nd party but ow well but like i said sony has 20 first party and so many 2nd party.

so in other words micrsoft does not even have as many 2nd party never mind 1st.

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Nope. Quality over quantity. and some of those "owned franchises" haven't seen sequels since the 90s.
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#159 Pariah_001
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="ukillwegrill"][QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]Read it again, he said "First party Publishing", as in, games Published by them, the First-party. (MS Game Studios)ukillwegrill

sorry. did not notice that. even still, MS 1st party is weak.

No it's not ... at all.

Give me a list of 1st party games.

Who needs quantity when you have quality of first party published games.

Gears of war, for instance, Viva Pinata, PGR ...

Congratulations on your pathetic backpeddle.

First party published games are not insured assets. Relying on them as an example is foolhardy.

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#160 MonkeyStyle5389
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[QUOTE="MonkeyStyle5389"][QUOTE="GARRYTH"]Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. Clap Hanz - Hot Shots Golf series Polyphony Digital - Gran Turismo series, Motor Toon Grand Prix series, Omega Boost SCE Japan Studio (Project SIREN Team, etc.) - Ape Escape series, LocoRoco Team ICO - ICO, Shadow of the Colossus SCEI Subsidiary DivisionsSony Computer Entertainment America Inc. Incognito Entertainment - Twisted Metal series, Warhawk Naughty Dog - Jak series, Uncharted SCE Bend Studio (formerly Eidetic) - Syphon Filter series SCE Foster City Studio - Jet Li: Rise to Honor SCE San Diego Studio - The Mark of Kri, NBA '07 SCE Santa Monica Studio - God of War, Kinetica Sony Online Entertainment LLC. - EverQuest Zipper Interactive - SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs series

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe Ltd.

Bigbig Studios - Pursuit Force Evolution Studios - MotorStorm Guerrilla Games - Killzone series SCE London Studio (includes Team SOHO & Camden) - The Getaway series, SingStar series SCE Studio Cambridge (formerly Millennium Interactive) - MediEvil series, Primal SCE Studio Liverpool (formerly Psygnosis) - Wipeout series, F1 series

Sony Computer Entertainment Korea Inc.

SCE Korea - EyeToy: EduKids, GloRace: Phantastic Carnival

Sony Computer Entertainment owned franchises:

AlundraApe EscapeArc the LadATV Offroad FuryBeyond the BeyondBuzz!Calling All Cars!Colony WarsCool BoardersDark CloudDestruction DerbyDownhill DominationDropship: United Peace ForceGangs of LondonGhosthunterEchochromeExterminationEyeToyFantaVisionFolkloreFormula OneGenjiGod of WarGran TurismoGrind SessionHeavenly SwordHot Shots GolfICOInFamousIntelligent QubeJak and DaxterJet MotoKileak: The DNA ImperativeKillzoneKineticaLairLegend of LegaiaLemmingsLittleBigPlanetLocoRocoMediEvilMLBMotor Toon Grand PrixMotorStormNBA ShootOutNCAA Final FourNCAA GameBreakerNFL GameDayNFL XtremeNHL FaceOffOkage: Shadow KingOmega BoostPaRappa the RapperPhilosomaPoPoLoCroisPorsche ChallengePrimalPursuit ForceRally CrossRatchet & ClankResistanceRogue GalaxyShadow of the ColossusSingStarSirenSky OdysseySly CooperSOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALsSyphon FilterThe GetawayThe Legend of DragoonThe Mark of KriTurbo Prop RacingTwisted MetalUnchartedWar of the MonstersWarhawkWhite Knight StoryWild ArmsWipeoutXtreme Games

wow i guess resistance is 2nd party but ow well but like i said sony has 20 first party and so many 2nd party.

so in other words micrsoft does not even have as many 2nd party never mind 1st.

Dreams-Visions
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Nope. Quality over quantity. and some of those "owned franchises" haven't seen sequels since the 90s.

You gotta point but most of em are getting sequels and spin offs on PS3. I've seen Msoft's 1st party and I still think Sony's is better imo. That goes for 2nd party as well and I really don't care if they aren't out NOW. I don't game 24/7 I have a social life+patience. End comment not directed at you :lol:
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#161 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]They have to put in first party published games because they don't develop any first party :lol:.xxThyLordxx

:lol: could not agree more.

I don't care where they come from, the 360 still has a solid line-up this year.

Seems you guys, deep down, agree also. Otherwise you wouldn't be nitpicking like you are.

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#162 MortalDecay
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Does it worry anyone else that SK and Microsoft seem to be living in a dream world where Too Human is an awesome game worth bragging about?Ninja-Hippo

You actually worry about that?

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#163 naruto7777
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well MS has terrible 1st party support but great 3rd party support
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#164 981Master
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sony will dominate in exculsives wid resistance2, wipeout hd, LBP, Killzone 2, motorstorm 2 , socom, valkyria chronicles. well thats what im hoping!

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#165 Haku_Ryushi
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lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sad
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#166 -DrRobotnik-
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lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadHaku_Ryushi

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

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#167 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sad-DrRobotnik-

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

Its just funny to think just how ignorant microsoft is. Gran Turismo crushes Forza in terms of sales. So why would they even mention it???

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#168 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadHaku_Ryushi

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

Its just funny to think just how ignorant microsoft is. Gran Turismo crushes Forza in terms of sales. So why would they even mention it???

Gears of War crushed Uncharted in sales, doesnt stop people comparing them.

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#169 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sad-DrRobotnik-

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

Its just funny to think just how ignorant microsoft is. Gran Turismo crushes Forza in terms of sales. So why would they even mention it???

Gears of War crushed Uncharted in sales, doesnt stop people comparing them.

I'm a fan of Gears of War. I prefer it over Uncharted any day :| So whats you're point there? You're just trying to point the finger at me and call me fanboy. I'm just laughing at Microsoft's ignorance. Jeez....

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#170 diped
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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]They have to put in first party published games because they don't develop any first party :lol:.xxThyLordxx

:lol: could not agree more.

The differnces between those types of games are HUGE. Such a GIGANTIC DIFFERENCE IT CANT EVEN BE COMPREHENDED! I mean they are both exclusives, but one is first party, the other is not. OH LAWWWD HELP US TOO MANY DIFFERENCES!
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#171 DrinkDuff
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Does it worry anyone else that SK and Microsoft seem to be living in a dream world where Too Human is an awesome game worth bragging about?Ninja-Hippo
Yeah lol. It's like when Sony and Factor 5 continued to promote Lair for the holidays even after it was widely accepted as critical failure.
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#172 -DrRobotnik-
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I'm a fan of Gears of War. I prefer it over Uncharted any day :| So whats you're point there? You're just trying to point the finger at me and call me fanboy. I'm just laughing at Microsoft's ignorance. Jeez....

Haku_Ryushi

Im not calling you anything. I just didnt find Microsoft comparing Forza to Gran Turismo funny, especially since both are generally AAA quality franchises.

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#173 ChiSoxBombers
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they both have strong first party titles. i dont like how ms would boast about their lineups in this manner though. act a little more professional, why dont ya? why not boast about their hardware too? hmm, they cant.
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#174 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadHaku_Ryushi

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

Its just funny to think just how ignorant microsoft is. Gran Turismo crushes Forza in terms of sales. So why would they even mention it???

are you comparing the overall sales of the GT series to forza?

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#175 sargentbotk
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they both have strong first party titles. i dont like how ms would boast about their lineups in this manner though. act a little more professional, why dont ya? why not boast about their hardware too? hmm, they cant.ChiSoxBombers

And if they made it sound professional, I believe cows would spit out damage control. It's best if they tell it how it is ;)

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#176 Haku_Ryushi
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadlawlessx

I dont see whats so funny about that. Both are critically acclaimed franchises.

Its just funny to think just how ignorant microsoft is. Gran Turismo crushes Forza in terms of sales. So why would they even mention it???

are you comparing the overall sales of the GT series to forza?

Of course not! I'm comparing it individualy.

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#177 Utensilman
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As a primarly PC gamer i gotta say hands down, MS destroys Sony (this gen) in the games department. This isn't saying the PS3 has no games. I acutally really enjoyed some of PS3's first pary games this gen, but they cannot compare to the 360 lineup yet.
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#178 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]

I'm a fan of Gears of War. I prefer it over Uncharted any day :| So whats you're point there? You're just trying to point the finger at me and call me fanboy. I'm just laughing at Microsoft's ignorance. Jeez....

-DrRobotnik-

Im not calling you anything. I just didnt find Microsoft comparing Forza to Gran Turismo funny, especially since both are generally AAA quality franchises.

no, he's quite simply a fanboy

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#179 leadernator
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I don't think they have anything at all to go toe-to-toe with LBP, but that's just me. :)phatrawk

Well, it's not just you...but it's also not everyone. Can't they make a trailer that shows some actual platforming gameplay, or that doesn't involve "Look, you can add stuff like this...now let's skip to the completed level"?

Frankly, I'm far more excited for Left4Dead than LBP...but I'm not constantly slobbering on forums about it. Kinda proves his point, doesn't it?

The VERY FIRST trailer for LBP was side-scrolling gameplay only :|

And almost every other trailer has gameplay segments in them :|

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#180 cyprusxx
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microsoft is evil :(NaiKoN9293

i agree there part of the new world oder

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#181 agentzero23
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[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]They have to put in first party published games because they don't develop any first party :lol:.xxThyLordxx

:lol: could not agree more.

how many first party developers does Microsoft have? *please don't flame me for this question :)*

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#182 Blackbond
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I've seen Msoft's 1st party and I still think Sony's is better imo. That goes for 2nd party as well and I really don't care if they aren't out NOW. I don't game 24/7 I have a social life+patience. End comment not directed at you :lol:MonkeyStyle5389

What does a social life and patience have to do with comparing something that you can physically play to something that you cannot play yet at this time?

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#183 TheGrat1
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Microsoft: "Our first and second party studios can take on Sony's any day of the week!"

And fail spectacularly

:lol:

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#184 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Khaine775"]

Certain components in Windows has been taken from other software companies, they "steal" (or buy if you must) games from the PS3 like GTA and FF, and whenever they see another company which threatens them, and it isn't too big (Apple), they buy it.

Khaine775

Yeah because we all know that Final Fantasy started on the Playstation 1 :lol:

Oh and GTA's were on PC and the original Xbox as well man.

But it wasn't originally on the 360 :)

And none of those titles were originally on PS3. Your point is really contradicting. If you're mad at MS supposively stealing things you should be mad at Sony as well as they did what MS is doing now well before hand. You can't just ignore that.

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#185 WhiteKnightXIII
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[QUOTE="MonkeyStyle5389"] I've seen Msoft's 1st party and I still think Sony's is better imo. That goes for 2nd party as well and I really don't care if they aren't out NOW. I don't game 24/7 I have a social life+patience. End comment not directed at you :lol:Blackbond

What does a social life and patience have to do with comparing something that you can physically play to something that you cannot play yet at this time?

I'm just saying so many people pull that yeah well I can play it now on my 360 crap so often like they need the game immediately and have no patience. Me being the busy little bugger I am, I have so much stuff going on in my life so that now argument doesn't really effect me because by the time i'm free to play a game all day the wait will probably be over and then I can play it now. Also I feel safe waiting for games like God of War 3, and ICO 3 and seeing as how these upcoming games were awesome in the past I think many people put faith in the game beforehand because the past versions were great. Sorta like what many due for Gears 2.
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#186 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="MonkeyStyle5389"] I've seen Msoft's 1st party and I still think Sony's is better imo. That goes for 2nd party as well and I really don't care if they aren't out NOW. I don't game 24/7 I have a social life+patience. End comment not directed at you :lol:WhiteKnightXIII

What does a social life and patience have to do with comparing something that you can physically play to something that you cannot play yet at this time?

I'm just saying so many people pull that yeah well I can play it now on my 360 crap so often like they need the game immediately and have no patience. Me being the busy little bugger I am, I have so much stuff going on in my life so that now argument doesn't really effect me because by the time i'm free to play a game all day the wait will probably be over and then I can play it now. Also I feel safe waiting for games like God of War 3, and ICO 3 and seeing as how these upcoming games were awesome in the past I think many people put faith in the game beforehand because the past versions were great. Sorta like what many due for Gears 2.

Regardless of how you feel you cannot compare a product on the market to a product that isn't out or that doesn't even have a release date.

Since you feel so safe waiting. Tell me when these two games are coming out. Hell I didn't even know ICO 3 was announced.

Your life can busy all you want. But even with any of the free time you have you won't be playing either of those two games until late 2009 earliest. And while you're waiting people will actually be playing games in their free time.

Hell I'm an Engineering Major, I play sports every day, I run about 2 miles every day, and I'm juggling 4 girls. Yet I still find the time to play a couple rounds of 3S, GG, or KOF a day. To hell with waiting until end of 2009 2010 to play games. When I have free time I want to game now not 1 year from now.

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#187 Utensilman
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnightXIII"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="MonkeyStyle5389"] I've seen Msoft's 1st party and I still think Sony's is better imo. That goes for 2nd party as well and I really don't care if they aren't out NOW. I don't game 24/7 I have a social life+patience. End comment not directed at you :lol:Blackbond

What does a social life and patience have to do with comparing something that you can physically play to something that you cannot play yet at this time?

I'm just saying so many people pull that yeah well I can play it now on my 360 crap so often like they need the game immediately and have no patience. Me being the busy little bugger I am, I have so much stuff going on in my life so that now argument doesn't really effect me because by the time i'm free to play a game all day the wait will probably be over and then I can play it now. Also I feel safe waiting for games like God of War 3, and ICO 3 and seeing as how these upcoming games were awesome in the past I think many people put faith in the game beforehand because the past versions were great. Sorta like what many due for Gears 2.

Regardless of how you feel you cannot compare a product on the market to a product that isn't out or that doesn't even have a release date.

Since you feel so safe waiting. Tell me when these two games are coming out. Hell I didn't even know ICO 3 was announced.

Your life can busy all you want. But even with any of the free time you have you won't be playing either of those two games until late 2009 earliest. And while you're waiting people will actually be playing games in their free time.

Hell I'm an Engineering Major, I play sports every day, I run about 2 miles every day, and I'm juggling 4 girls. Yet I still find the time to play a couple rounds of 3S, GG, or KOF a day. To hell with waiting until end of 2009 2010 to play games. When I have free time I want to game now not 1 year from now.

too active. I'd like to introduce you to drugs, booze, and online poker. You won't be too active but you can make a **** load of cash.

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#188 Snugenz
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lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadHaku_Ryushi

Sales and graphics aside Forza series crushes GT as a simulator, of course many PC games crush both of them but thats another discussion.

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#189 abuabed
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This is one of the reasons that makes me hate M$, but it's just me (no offense).
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#190 woobabooba
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MS 1st party is nothing compared to Sony's 1st party.

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#191 abuabed
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[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadSnugenz

Sales and graphics aside Forza series crushes GT as a simulator, of course many PC games crush both of them but thats another discussion.

I don't think many people who played both agree with you. Forza is a current gen game but we've not seen the complete GT5 yet so let's wait and see.
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#192 skrat_01
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MS are quite good when it comes to 1st party publishing.... better so than Sony.

But Sony does have much better 1st party in house devs, as does Nintendo.

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#193 shoemen22
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Oh please MS cant compare they have halo 3 which wasnt even the best halo and loads of people was disapointed with it. And what the hell forze doesnt even come close to beating GT i have played both and forze doesnt play as well as a simulater should GT is the best one to go with
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#194 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Haku_Ryushi"]lol microsoft compared Forza to Gran Turismo??? LOL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: sadabuabed

Sales and graphics aside Forza series crushes GT as a simulator, of course many PC games crush both of them but thats another discussion.

I don't think many people who played both agree with you. Forza is a current gen game but we've not seen the complete GT5 yet so let's wait and see.

Unless they overhaul the engine and actually make it worthy of the sim tagline then i doubt anything will change, no doubt that it'll look fantastic though.

And i'm sure many will disagree with me, mainly the graphics whores or GT fanboys, even at that i think alot more people who've played both would agree with me than you'd think :P

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#195 CreepyBacon
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Oh please MS cant compare they have halo 3 which wasnt even the best halo and loads of people was disapointed with it. And what the hell forze doesnt even come close to beating GT i have played both and forze doesnt play as well as a simulater should GT is the best one to go with shoemen22

If you're going to claim you've played both and thus have first hand experiance with playing them both, you should probably get their name right. It's ForzA. Not forze.

Kindly stop making stuff up.