microsoft: : xb360 will have one day longer lifespan than ps3

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#1 jrpgliker
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:http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/16/microsofts-shane-kim-loves-nintendo-talks-up-new-xbox-experience-as-social-network/

http://venturebeat.com/2008/11/16/microsofts-shane-kim-loves-nintendo-talks-up-new-xbox-experience-as-social-network/

Asked how long Microsoft would keep making the Xbox 360, he said, "One day longer than the lifespan of the PlayStation 3." That means that Microsoft will invest in the Xbox 360 for a long time and feels no pressure to offer a new machine.

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#2 SolidTy
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All Talk, I hope they do it, but we'll see.

Investors +1

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Short 360 lifespan confirmed...

;)

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#4 Panther501
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this gen might last longer than intended then
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They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

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#6 jrpgliker
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Short 360 lifespan confirmed...

;)

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use your logic. if microsoft rush to lauch next conosle , they don't need to update new 360 dashboard , besides , only the last place console feel the urge for next gen.

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#7 -Montauk-
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So we're looking at new consoles in what? 2016? :P
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They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

Lidve

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

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To paraphrase what some poster said on Neogaf:

So next gen starts when Sony says it does?

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#10 -Mad_Rhetoric-
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

SolidTy

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

what do you mean always releases before sony? its happened only once, thats not a trend
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#11 WatchmenWatchUs
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To paraphrase what some poster said on Neogaf:

So next gen starts when Sony says it does?

Zhengi
yep
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

-Mad_Rhetoric-

That's the thing, M$ will always TRY to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

what do you mean always releases before sony? its happened only once, thats not a trend

Try rereading. I didn't say that at all.

I said TRY.

However, Being that strategy has been so effective, that's going to be their battleplan here on out.

Will they do it? I dunno.

I would bet on it though, not that I want them too, the longer this gen goes, the better and cheaper it is for all of us.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

-Mad_Rhetoric-

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

what do you mean always releases before sony? its happened only once, thats not a trend

He said they will try to release before since it was successful with the 360...
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however they do it....its not gonna be fixed by a simple live update...thats for sure....im pretty sure this fix is gonna cost a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...or make people buy the "newer" console. maybe call it xbox 360 EXTREME 5000th edition to the 3rd power.
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

SolidTy

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

Just pointing out that Sony only has one more gen under their belt than MS, and the circumstances for this one are far different from the others.

Realistically, Sony has no history you can bank on under these circumstances.

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

mattbbpl

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

Just pointing out that Sony only has one more gen under their belt than MS, and the circumstances for this one are far different from the others.

Realistically, Sony has no history you can bank on under these circumstances.

While true, I am merely observing M$'s moves, from getting rid of 1st party developers, to their tactics with Windows, it all points one way.

That being said, anything can happen, but I think M$ will come out before the others, yet again.

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So we're looking at new consoles in what? 2016? :P-Montauk-

that would be good for me... well if the system was released idk some time earleir so the price drop will drop at that time. 

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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

 

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

-Montauk-

what do you mean always releases before sony? its happened only once, thats not a trend

He said they will try to release before since it was successful with the 360...

traditionally sony releases consoles before the competition

ps1 released before n64 and saturn

ps2 released before xbox and gamecube

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[QUOTE="-Montauk-"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]what do you mean always releases before sony? its happened only once, thats not a trend-Mad_Rhetoric-
He said they will try to release before since it was successful with the 360...

traditionally sony releases consoles before the competition

 

ps1 released before n64 and saturn

ps2 released before xbox and gamecube

I said TRY in my other post.

Also, YOU ARE WRONG.

Saturn LAUNCHED Before PSOne, and The PS2 came AFTER the oftforgotten Dreamcast.

Both times, SONY pushed for Power over the competition, and it was effective, until this gen.

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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

SolidTy

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

xbox 2001----2005 xbox 360 2005------???? xbox next ????

ps2 2000-----2006 ps3 2006------???? ps4 ????

ngc 2001-----2006 wii 2006----???? wii hd ????

in the end , userbase talks, ps2 has 100 million userbase , so even when sony self already stop making ps2 games. third party are still stick with it. but if ps3 can't reach that level, 10 year life span is a joke.

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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"][QUOTE="-Montauk-"] He said they will try to release before since it was successful with the 360...SolidTy
traditionally sony releases consoles before the competition

 

ps1 released before n64 and saturn

ps2 released before xbox and gamecube

I said TRY in my other post.

Also, YOU ARE WRONG.

Saturn LAUNCHED Before PSOne, and The PS2 came AFTER the oftforgotten Dreamcast.

Both times, SONY pushed for Power over the competition, and it was effective, until this gen.

you realize PS and ps2 both were underpowered compared to the competition

and the dreamcast doesn't count since it died too early

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#22 -Montauk-
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]traditionally sony releases consoles before the competition

 

ps1 released before n64 and saturn

ps2 released before xbox and gamecube

-Mad_Rhetoric-

I said TRY in my other post.

Also, YOU ARE WRONG.

Saturn LAUNCHED Before PSOne, and The PS2 came AFTER the oftforgotten Dreamcast.

Both times, SONY pushed for Power over the competition, and it was effective, until this gen.

you realize PS and ps2 both were underpowered compared to the competition

and the dreamcast doesn't count since it died too early

How does it not count? It was still there. And anyways, this has nothing to do with what has "happened before." MS was successful with releasing the Xbox 360 a year before PS3. Why would they not at least try to do the same with the next Xbox? It only makes sense from a business standpoint.
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#23 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"][QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"]traditionally sony releases consoles before the competition

 

ps1 released before n64 and saturn

ps2 released before xbox and gamecube

-Mad_Rhetoric-

I said TRY in my other post.

Also, YOU ARE WRONG.

Saturn LAUNCHED Before PSOne, and The PS2 came AFTER the oftforgotten Dreamcast.

Both times, SONY pushed for Power over the competition, and it was effective, until this gen.

you realize PS and ps2 both were underpowered compared to the competition

and the dreamcast doesn't count since it died too early

Sorry, you are WRONG again.

There is no way SONY could have predicted the DC not Counting. Lol.

The PSOne was superior to the Saturn.

The PS2 was superior to the Dreamcast.

You are comparing the N64 which came out a year later, and was stronger, and the GC/Xbox which came out a year later and were stronger.

That being said, the PS's were the strongest system's IN THEIR TIME FRAME before the rivals came out a YEAR LATER.

Anyways, we are talking about M$ here, and you are going off track because you forgot about SEGA systems.

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The topic title made me imagine two crabby old men in rocking chairs arguing about who's gonna die first. :lol:
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The topic title made me imagine two crabby old men in rocking chairs arguing about who's gonna die first. :lol:Mordred19
Good analogy. (thumbs up) :P

Anyways, I think MS is indirectly admitting that they're going to have to work hard to beat the PS3 and that it probably won't be a stomp like many lems hoped for.

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[QUOTE="-Mad_Rhetoric-"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I said TRY in my other post.

Also, YOU ARE WRONG.

Saturn LAUNCHED Before PSOne, and The PS2 came AFTER the oftforgotten Dreamcast.

Both times, SONY pushed for Power over the competition, and it was effective, until this gen.

SolidTy

you realize PS and ps2 both were underpowered compared to the competition

and the dreamcast doesn't count since it died too early

Sorry, you are WRONG again.

There is no way SONY could have predicted the DC not Counting. Lol.

The PSOne was superior to the Saturn.

The PS2 was superior to the Dreamcast.

You are comparing the N64 which came out a year later, and was stronger, and the GC/Xbox which came out a year later and were stronger.

That being said, the PS's were the strongest system's IN THEIR TIME FRAME before the rivals came out a YEAR LATER.

Anyways, we are talking about M$ here, and you are going off track because you forgot about SEGA systems.

Not trying to get involved in this argument as I really dont care, but the PS1 was indeed weaker than the Saturn and of course N64, and the PS2 was weaker than the Dreamcast and had less out of the box functionality. The PS1 and PS2 were the weakest consoles of their gens.

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Not trying to get involved in this argument as I really dont care, but the PS1 was indeed weaker than the Saturn and of course N64, and the PS2 was weaker than the Dreamcast and had less out of the box functionality. The PS1 and PS2 were the weakest consoles of their gens.

hhttppp

Since you don't know what you are talking about, you probably should just stay out of it.

The Saturn was better at 2D, but the PSOne blew it away in 3D performance(500,000 Polys per second).

The DC was much weaker than the PS2, however, it did do AA for free, and although at first it seemed they both were similar, games like GTA, MGS2, FFX, DMC, Balders Gate DA, Zone of the Enders, Onimusha, and more proved that false.

Besides, the DC Poly count was very low compared to PS2 (75 million), GC (6-12 realtime,but better at textures), or Xbox(Bad boy last gen.).

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so next gen begin at 2016?
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so next gen begin at 2016?wiiwillwiiwill

Or 2011 or 2012.  Whichever comes first :)

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I'll believe it when I see it. MS also said that the xbox 360 was the Ferrari of video game consols!! LMAO
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#31 DoDGE_R_xz
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this gen might last longer than intended thenPanther501

Panther501 im curious, where does the last 6% of your allegiance lie?

On topic, M$ are winning this gen against Sony, they wont mind it going for as long as Sony let it

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I hope this gen lasts long, because I do not want to shell out another 500$ to buy another system any time soon.
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Smartest move would be to have a console that is stronger, or just as strong as the next playstation or wii 2 (lol). How good would it be now if MS released their console 2 years ahead with awesome graphics-capabilities, but then ps4 comes with twice that power with it's new technology. Their best bet is to wait.
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[QUOTE="Lidve"]

They know knowledge! Awesome move,i was wondering if they will go earlier or wait ! Now when they have head start they can afford luxury to wait for Sony's next move - and counter it

SolidTy

That's the thing, M$ will always try to release earlier than SONY from now on, as it's proven so effective.

Howver, they may just be trying to lull SONY into a false sense of security, so this may all be a ruse.

Like I said, it's all talk. M$ has no history we can bank on in the console world, at all.

In fact, Window's keeps on moving, even when it's not needed.

I disagree, the time was right this time to do that, next time they will wanna match specs and be the more powerful console. Sony is in major trouble IMHO, because once they announce a system, MS will drop in the better technology. Larabee processors or whatever the tech is at that time. Expect them to make Live better and better as well for it will be a big part of the next gens launch.

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i doubt they will stay true to this statement
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#36 masiisam
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I am sure MS will launch before Sony.......But I don't see how the Xbox is used as the case example as what MS will do with the 360...

The situation is completely different this time around

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other than RE5, what else?
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certainly, we will see nintendo next console first, because wii power is too weak.
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Short 360 lifespan confirmed...

;)

mattbbpl

Don't you know the 360 is the new PS2. ;)

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other than RE5, what else?def_mode

halo3 recon, ff13 alan wake, mass effect 2.....