Microsoft: XBL wasnt hacked

I never knew about this until now, but it is said over 62,000 account details were leaked out. I really have no idea what happened, and microsoft said that it wasnt due to an intrusion.

But.....doesnt this seem .....familiar?

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/microsoft-xbl-hasnt-been-hacked/a-20110620115447337008/g-20060321132945404017/c-1?#comment_10374492282529183209602896669118887

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

Hohohoho, never gets old :P

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

what in the....

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

You right bro

* bro fist *

It was just another example of high quality games journalism. Lulzsec released the information from 62,000 accounts from some other source (IIRC Sony Pictures, but I'm not sure) and due to the general public's inability to use more than one login/password combination, people started using that account information to gain access to other accounts. Somone tweeted lulzsec to say they had used the information to gain access to someone's XBL account, and the Edward R Murrow's over at GameInformer somehow took this to mean XBL had been hacked.

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It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

KC_Hokie

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It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

PurpleMan5000

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It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

KC_Hokie

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

They probably shouldn't be advertising that they've never been hacked. Specially when hackers are on a rampage right now.

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It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

Jurassic85

They probably shouldn't be advertising that they've never been hacked. Specially when hackers are on a rampage right now.

Crossel777

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nothing is unhackable but MS does use a lot of that Xbox Live money for security and security personnel that Sony, for example, can't afford due to PSN being free.

KC_Hokie

XBL is unhackable;

CallOfDutyXxX

lol...the CIA got hacked last week dude, and I'm pretty sure someonesaid the same thing about them.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nothing is unhackable but MS does use a lot of that Xbox Live money for security and security personnel that Sony, for example, can't afford due to PSN being free.

KC_Hokie

You are assuming that because Sony doesn't charge for online that they can't afford security. Think about that for a minute. One doesn't have to put all money made in a specifica area back into that area. Companies use money from games for console devlopment, and other things. To imply that Sony (or any company that large) is short on cash is ridiculous, you need to rethink your theory.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]It's not like Sony loses money on PSN. Also, if PSN were to cost money, Sony probably would have even had a rougher start to this gen, back when the PS3 was worse than the Xbox 360 in every way but blu ray.EdenProxy

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Jurassic85"] This is nonsense. Sony makes enough money in other areas that they could easily pour more money into their online security. In fact, considering how much money they just lost, I can guarantee they will.

Jurassic85

You are assuming that because Sony doesn't charge for online that they can't afford security. Think about that for a minute. One doesn't have to put all money made in a specifica area back into that area. Companies use money from games for console devlopment, and other things. To imply that Sony (or any company that large) is short on cash is ridiculous, you need to rethink your theory.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Do you have evidence Sony has made money on PSN? The last time I checked they hadn't and that was before losing $171 million on the hacker breach. KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="EdenProxy"] WTF dude they sell games and movies on it. OF COURSE THEY MAKE MONEY

kris9031998

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="EdenProxy"] WTF dude they sell games and movies on it. OF COURSE THEY MAKE MONEY

kris9031998

Even if he comes up with a source, and I don't think he will, there is no way to prove how many people bought PS3's because they don't want to pay for Xbox Live. There are definitely more PS3's sold because of PSN being free than would have been sold otherwise. It is very difficult to quantify the benefits of any free service.

[QUOTE="kris9031998"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nope. PSN wasn't profitable BEFORE that hacking. It's certainly not $171 million in the hole later.PurpleMan5000

Even if he comes up with a source, and I don't think he will, there is no way to prove how many people bought PS3's because they don't want to pay for Xbox Live. There are definitely more PS3's sold because of PSN being free than would have been sold otherwise. It is very difficult to quantify the benefits of any free service.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Do you have evidence Sony has made money on PSN? The last time I checked they hadn't and that was before losing $171 million on the hacker breach. KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="EdenProxy"] WTF dude they sell games and movies on it. OF COURSE THEY MAKE MONEY

EdenProxy

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] Im not trying to be smart or anything, but im curious as to where your source is?AncientDozer

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]If they had the funds they would have done it. Do you know how expensive that kind of security is and the manpower it takes to keep it up 24/7? To just assume Sony could have done but chose not to is a bad assumption. KC_Hokie

You are assuming that because Sony doesn't charge for online that they can't afford security. Think about that for a minute. One doesn't have to put all money made in a specifica area back into that area. Companies use money from games for console devlopment, and other things. To imply that Sony (or any company that large) is short on cash is ridiculous, you need to rethink your theory.

I never commented on how Sony is doing. I said that they don't have to charge for online in order to invest in a substantially protected online service, a point that you are choosing to ignore. Care to address it rather than resorting to straw man arguments?

[QUOTE="AncientDozer"][QUOTE="EdenProxy"]Sony's Hirai: Playstation Network not yet profitable statement from just six months ago and, again, prior to the $171 million hack.

EdenProxy

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Jurassic85"]

You are assuming that because Sony doesn't charge for online that they can't afford security. Think about that for a minute. One doesn't have to put all money made in a specifica area back into that area. Companies use money from games for console devlopment, and other things. To imply that Sony (or any company that large) is short on cash is ridiculous, you need to rethink your theory.

Jurassic85

I never commented on how Sony is doing. I said that they don't have to charge for online in order to invest in a substantially protected online service, a point that you are choosing to ignore. Care to address it rather than resorting to straw man arguments?

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XBL is unhackable;

MarcRecon

lol...the CIA got hacked last week dude, and I'm pretty sure someonesaid the same thing about them.

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You're assuming Sony has been doing really well that last few years. Bad assumption. Are you involved in the stock market at all? KC_Hokie

I never commented on how Sony is doing. I said that they don't have to charge for online in order to invest in a substantially protected online service, a point that you are choosing to ignore. Care to address it rather than resorting to straw man arguments?

I'm not assuming anything. You said that Sony can't afford security due to PSN being free, you can't now bring the recent attacks into it. Sony COULD HAVE added security in those past years when they were making money, before the attack. That is the central argument here, that Sony didn't take the necessary precautions. Did the government officials who told Sony to get their act together have sympathy due to Sony's lack of money? No. Did Sony ever say "we would have had security, but we dont have the money"? No. That is clearly not the issue here.

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It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

Moriarity_

I love when people think that paying for something makes it better... I payed for my xbox which means its unbreakable right??

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Jurassic85"]

I never commented on how Sony is doing. I said that they don't have to charge for online in order to invest in a substantially protected online service, a point that you are choosing to ignore. Care to address it rather than resorting to straw man arguments?

Jurassic85

I'm not assuming anything. You said that Sony can't afford security due to PSN being free, you can't now bring the recent attacks into it. Sony COULD HAVE added security in those past years when they were making money, before the attack. That is the central argument here, that Sony didn't take the necessary precautions. Did the government officials who told Sony to get their act together have sympathy due to Sony's lack of money? No. Did Sony ever say "we would have had security, but we dont have the money"? No. That is clearly not the issue here.

So I don't really get your point.

I never knew about this until now, but it is said over 62,000 account details were leaked out. I really have no idea what happened, and microsoft said that it wasnt due to an intrusion.

But.....doesnt this seem .....familiar?

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/microsoft-xbl-hasnt-been-hacked/a-20110620115447337008/g-20060321132945404017/c-1?#comment_10374492282529183209602896669118887

kris9031998

That's because apparently this subject isn't a SW matter, well according to the mod who closed that premature topic anyways.:P

As for the news, it's great! The hackers seriously need to calm down though.:?

I love when people think that paying for something makes it better... I payed for my xbox which means its unbreakable right??

enzyme36

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I love when people think that paying for something makes it better... I payed for my xbox which means its unbreakable right??

KC_Hokie

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I love when people think that paying for something makes it better... I payed for my xbox which means its unbreakable right??

PurpleMan5000

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]When it comes to security it does. A guy with a fence around his yard, an alarm system and armed guards with dogs is better than just a fence. And the former costs a lot more.

KC_Hokie

lol...the CIA got hacked last week dude, and I'm pretty sure someonesaid the same thing about them.

MarcRecon

DDoS isn't the same as hacking.

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lol...the CIA got hacked last week dude, and I'm pretty sure someonesaid the same thing about them.

PBSnipes

DDoS isn't the same as hacking.

I think you'd have to hack it to change something on the site though?

but MS does use a lot of that Xbox Live money for security and security personnel that Sony, for example, can't afford due to PSN being free.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] but MS does use a lot of that Xbox Live money for security and security personnel that Sony, for example, can't afford due to PSN being free.Jynxzor