Microsoft: XBL wasnt hacked

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] but MS does use a lot of that Xbox Live money for security and security personnel that Sony, for example, can't afford due to PSN being free.KC_Hokie

Again links? Stop saying stuff you can't back up, simply accept that we won't know how good the PSN's security was, all we know is that there was a backdoor, a flaw, not that security was as bare bones as you like to claim. There's no evidence that Xbox Live is so well defended and we don't know if PSN or Live has "security personnel that are on guard 24/7". Don't make silly claims.

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[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]I hope you got something to back that statement up, otherwise MS could be secured by two maniquins at a keyboard and it's just a coincedence that nobody ever tried to hack them. My statement has as much logical backing as yours currently does. Just because they have not been hacked doesn't mean they are the fort knox of hackerland.hoosier7

Again links? Stop saying stuff you can't back up, simply accept that we won't know how good the PSN's security was, all we know is that there was a backdoor, a flaw, not that security was as bare bones as you like to claim. There's no evidence that Xbox Live is so well defended and we don't know if PSN or Live has "security personnel that are on guard 24/7". Don't make silly claims.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"]

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

You right bro

* bro fist *

I know a guy from college that works at MS. I went to a school with all sorts of computer engineers/scientists. And MS has people working 24/7 watching out for intruders. KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I know a guy from college that works at MS. I went to a school with all sorts of computer engineers/scientists. And MS has people working 24/7 watching out for intruders. Jynxzor

And these are just two that are open at the moment. Imagine dozens of these people around the world. These are the jobs that your Xbox Live gold subscription helps pays for.

Hackers are losers. Period. The do NOT fight for consumers. They hack for their own selfish, ego-filled reasons.TruthBToldShow

:lol:

What a fail blanket statement...

and the lack of job postings for Sony means they didn't have them? I'm trying to follow your logic here but I'm not able to get it. Who knows how good they are at their jobs? Could they be lazy from years of non-issues? Could Sony have had the exact same jobs? Could Sony have had the exact same security system at the time of the breach? You or I will never know the answers to these questions, so claiming that one is better than the other is impossible. Your running on blind speculation just because Microsoft came out "Currently" Unscathed from this massive outbreak of hackers in the gaming community. Someone swathed the field with a flamethrower and I came out without a single sing, I'm obviously fireproof right? I couldn't have just been lucky to not get burnt, that kind of stuff never happens apparantly.Jynxzor

And computer engineers/scientists that have criticized Sony's networks pointed out if they had personnel watching their networks 24/7 this intrusion would have been caught. It took Sony nearly a week to realize something was wrong.

Why are you defending Sony like they had fantastic security or something? Even Sony admitted they didn't. And I love once I prove one thing that's 'unprovable' you come up with something else. That's called 'changing the goalposts' and considered a logical fallacy.

Compuer Engineers/scientests know as much as we do about Sony's security network. Back doors happen, people look in the wrong place at time. I'm not saying "You made up the jobs" you stated "I know a friend" as your source and I called you out on using such a silly source. You put up the job searches and I left it at that, I didn't say you made it up I just pointed out you were being rather silly. I've not once said Sony had amazing security, I am however pointing out that not a single person outside of those privy to Sony's security network know how it works. Not even "Experts" know what is going on. They can speculate until the sun burns out and thats all it is speculation. You on the otherhand seem to think Microsoft has BETTER security than Sony and have no proof. There isn't a single thing you have stated that prooves Microsoft has better security than Sony. I'm waiting for that proof but you continue to evade it and just prop up useless information.Jynxzor

But let me say this...one company recently had to spend $171 million to 'strengthen' their network due to one of the biggest hacks in history. And another company hasn't. One company's executives have had to answer to government panels across the world to due poor security. And one hasn't. One company has apologized for and attempted to compensate users for poor security. And one hasn't.

You've already made up your mind so I might as well be talking to a wall.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"]

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

KC_Hokie

You've already made up your mind so I might as well be talking to a wall.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You've already made up your mind so I might as well be talking to a wall.Jynxzor

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You've already made up your mind so I might as well be talking to a wall.Jynxzor

LuLz hack group claimed that Sony should use microsofts Security essentials. It would be better than what they were using at the moment.

What does that tell ya Jynxzor?

For info on the claim it is on their twitter page.

See what happened there. LUz actully gave Microsoft a sideways compliment for a free end user software.

I'm kinda positive Microsoft has better security for Xbox Live in place.

Fanboy much?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]You've already made up your mind so I might as well be talking to a wall.Jynxzor

Really? That's your defense.

How about one is the FORT KNOX of security.

One was a convenient store clerk.

It's already confirmed that it wasn't hacked. XBL is unhackable; one of the reasons it costs money and PSN doesn't.

CallOfDutyXxX

Do you have evidence Sony has made money on PSN? The last time I checked they hadn't and that was before losing $171 million on the hacker breach. KC_Hokie

I've said my peice, call me a fanboy if it helps you sleep at night my point still remains as untouched as ever. I love how people think I'm defending Sony it's far from that, I personally could care less about Sony's situation that they have dug themselves into. I'm just saying that it's yet to be shown by anyone, anywhere that the claim "MS has better security thats why they are still safe" has shown thats the situation. The hackers claiming the fame for the Sony hack have also hit Government targets, I doubt Microsoft is much of a stretch if they really wanted. Then again MS is far awesomer than the government. Good luck trying to proove me otherwise.Jynxzor

Of course MS is far awesomer than the gov't as you put it. Why wouldn't they be? They get attacked more frequently than any other entity on the planet. And if they aren't getting attacked directly, you can be sure that there server software is, or their web browser is, or their O/S on someone else's main systems is getting attacked. And you can be sure that a lot of that is funnelled back to MS for advice or product improvement. Comparing practical experience on defense against hacking between Sony and MS is like comparing a grain of sand with a beach.

Most gov't sites aren't run by experts, they are run by bureaucrats. Only the big important parts of gov't are really secure and MS is as secure as they are. I have no idea why you would think otherwise, other than a lack of perspective.

I blame Sony!! For.... Something...

Only the big important parts of gov't are really secure and MS is as secure as they are. I have no idea why you would think otherwise, other than a lack of perspective.SUD123456

I guess the Pentagon isn't an important part of the government.

Please I have plenty of "perspective" on the situation.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"] Only the big important parts of gov't are really secure and MS is as secure as they are. I have no idea why you would think otherwise, other than a lack of perspective.Jynxzor

I guess the Pentagon isn't an important part of the government.

Please I have plenty of "perspective" on the situation.

No, an Army local network with no cIassified info giving public info on a web server is not an important part of the gov't.

Moreover, I don't see how this helps your argument since it is demonstrable evidence of the incompetence of the gov't and is an example of a very basic security failure wrt to a website.

Given MS gets attacked a thousand times a week on its website, I'd say that they have that part worked out. The Army, apparently not so much.

I never knew about this until now, but it is said over 62,000 account details were leaked out. I really have no idea what happened, and microsoft said that it wasnt due to an intrusion.

But.....doesnt this seem .....familiar?

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/xbox-360/news/microsoft-xbl-hasnt-been-hacked/a-20110620115447337008/g-20060321132945404017/c-1?#comment_10374492282529183209602896669118887

kris9031998

Sounds like Sony spent some money to make people think they aren't the only ones who can be hacked.

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[QUOTE="CallOfDutyXxX"]

XBL is unhackable;

Heil68

lol...the CIA got hacked last week dude, and I'm pretty sure someonesaid the same thing about them.

That's kind of irrelevant honestly.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] Actually, the fence is probably the biggest expense in that scenario. The addition of the dog and alarm system would be negligible compared to the cost of the fence. hoosier7

They couldn't...Hence teh hackz0rz

I blame Sony!! For.... Something...

Filthybastrd

Don't Believe dat Sony HYPE mayne, gets to ya eventually.:lol: