Microsoft: Xbox 360 May Not Even Be At Mid-Cycle Yet

For the record, I always said MS would launch a new system before the end of 2012 and I think at the beginning of the 360 launch,MS did too but now, not so much as there seems to be plenty of $$$$ to be had by going that: future proof, ten year life cycle like Sony. :P

I really, really wanted, no need a new, more powerful and exciting new system by 2012 - A PC gaming rig may be the only way. :)

The Story:

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It's clear that the current console cycle is shaping up to be longer than any previous, as major platform holders Sony and Microsoft get ready to roll out motion control tech they hope will extend the lifecycle.

Sony's known for having always expressed its commitment to the long-haul, shooting for the same ten-year lifecycle for the PlayStation 3 that it saw with the PlayStation 2. Now Microsoft is now more boldly asserting its commitment to the Xbox 360 for as far as the eye can presently see, in new comments from CES reported by the UK Guardian.

"I think it's important to say that the Xbox 360 is the console of the long future for us," senior director of Xbox product management David Hufford said. "There is no need to launch a new console, because we're able to give this console new life either with software upgrades or hardware upgrades like Project Natal."

"The Xbox 360 was designed for a long life, and I don't even know if we're at the midpoint yet," Hufford added -- noting that the company had no plans to enhance or update the Xbox 360 with the kind of hardware streamline that benefited Sony with its less-expensive PS3 Slim.

"We love our prices right now," said Hufford. "I don't want to say that technology stops, but...we think we're in a good place now heading into the Natal era."

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26757/Microsoft_Xbox_360_May_Not_Even_Be_At_MidCycle_Yet.php

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

dontshackzmii

I don't even think it's shown it's full potential yet

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

dontshackzmii

i think they might see what natal does, but these comments are to be expected. they won't say "our next console will be releasing next year", as people will hold off getting one.

i personally think nintendo will release theirs mid- late 2011 judging from their history, 360 late 2011, and ps3 i'm unsure about.

i think they might see what natal does, but these comments are to be expected. they won't say "our next console will be releasing next year", as people will hold off getting one. i personally think nintendo will release theirs mid- late 2011 judging from their history, 360 late 2011, and ps3 i'm unsure about.Mckenna1845

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

rybe1025

I am talking about the hardware . those games on 360 will be low res . it will be 720p or under . Also its not very future proof . 360 feels like its in between gens . with dvd no wifi no blue tooth and so on ,

That's great news, Cheers Microsoft, it feels good knowing these consoles still have a lot of life in them.

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

spinecaton

Because at that time DLC wasn't a big thing. Now that it is there making them with bigger HDD.

They are launching a new system. It's going to be a rebranded 360 with built in Natal.

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

spinecaton

Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestThePsTriple

LOL...oh wait ur serious

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]i think they might see what natal does, but these comments are to be expected. they won't say "our next console will be releasing next year", as people will hold off getting one. i personally think nintendo will release theirs mid- late 2011 judging from their history, 360 late 2011, and ps3 i'm unsure about.KukicAdo

by 2011 when ati and nvidia both have their flagship direct x 11 cards out, i think 360/ps3 will start looking dated. it's 2 years off, people will be more then ready for a new console then.

6 years for the 360 is a really long life span.

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

dontshackzmii

I dont see your point since console wise it gets the best version of most games. But yeah, i want a new Xbox soon too since i want to see console games using DX10 and DX11

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Ya with games like Metro 2033, Alan Wake, Reach and so on coming out it is really showing its age :roll:tupapi006

I am talking about the hardware . those games on 360 will be low res . it will be 720p or under . Also its not very future proof . 360 feels like its in between gens . with dvd no wifi no blue tooth and so on ,

you sound like a sony fanboy :?

O wait you really are

o wait i don't even have a ps3 or psp . I have a gaming pc .

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

rybe1025

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

dontshackzmii

"According to Epic's Cliff Bleszinski, the game as it is running right now is only using one of the Xbox 360's three cores, and has been up and running on the final development kits for only about two weeks."

heresthe link http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGuHiuuLPL09141133

anyway the X engine is more than just a tool set. Its a new way to program. Heres a thread I wrote about it cause I don't feel like writing it all out

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27141754

but to me it doesn't really matter both systems are putting out great games nonetheless. and thats all that matters :)

[QUOTE="tupapi006"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

I am talking about the hardware . those games on 360 will be low res . it will be 720p or under . Also its not very future proof . 360 feels like its in between gens . with dvd no wifi no blue tooth and so on ,

dontshackzmii

you sound like a fanboy :?

O wait you really are

Yes i'm a fanboy

Fixed!

Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestThePsTriple

The funny thing is that you actually believe on it!!!

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestchikenfriedrice

LOL...oh wait ur serious

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestPAL360

The funny thing is that you actually believe on it!!!

j/k :P

Yeah 360 looks really dated lol.

How the hell did Ps2 owners put up with such outdated hardware last gen when the 360 has better looking multiplatform titles and yet it `s looking dated.

Sony fanboys really are grasping for straws here.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestSecretPolice

The funny thing is that you actually believe on it!!!

j/k :P

Yeah....I have to agree with you ;)

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

we need a new system in 2 or 3 years . 360 is really starting to show its age .

chikenfriedrice

I don't even think it's shown it's full potential yet

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

spinecaton

I agree with the first post. It's not just that the market is not quite ready for new consoles, but I also think both companies really need to give us something dynamite next time round. There is a lot at stake. So a decade seems about right. That's a decade = 10 years ;)

I don't care what MS says...as always, they will SAY whatever they want to keep making money off the 360 while DOING whatever they want behind the scenes. Even if the two are totally different issues.

Having said that, nobody wants new consoles to come out in 2010 (typical 5 year cycle). MS may be many things, but they aren't stupid enough to come out with a new console when the 360 is making a ton of money, and their competition (Sony) won't come out with their new console any time soon. And considering we are only NOW at a price point when past gens have BEGAN, we won't be seeing next gen for a while.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

spinecaton

Agreed, I have about 1 gig left on my 360's 20 gig harddrive. At this point, I will have to delete my game add-ons and bought arcade games to gain more space. MS harddrive prices are ridiculous:evil:. I am sure that MS will release 250gig harddrive as stand alone, so they will have to drop prices eventually. I was hoping for price drop anoncement at CES but no such luck.

Anyway, there is no need for MS to release new console anytime soon. Nintendo showed that with right marketing/strategy, the technology is not importatnt to be a commercial sucess. Sony won't release a new console soon either. Nintendo might release beefed up Wii, but I doubt that it will be more powerfull than PS3/360. If Natal is sucessfull, it will be relanch of 360 anyway. To be honest, the more I hear about Natal the more I dislike it, but we will see. MS seems to be going after casual market with Natal, so I am sceptical that they will have games that appeal to me.

Hopefully this is true, i don't have the money to go out and buy a new console.

If it was designed for a long life, then how come it launched with a measly 20gb HDD?

spinecaton

Hopefully this is true, i don't have the money to go out and buy a new console.

racing1750

exactly......I bought the first xbox in its last year of its short life :cry:

i think new system will be out in 3 years 4 years tops. but i think 360 and ps3 will still see game releases.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]Ya with games like Metro 2033, Alan Wake, Reach and so on coming out it is really showing its age :roll:tupapi006

I am talking about the hardware . those games on 360 will be low res . it will be 720p or under . Also its not very future proof . 360 feels like its in between gens . with dvd no wifi no blue tooth and so on ,

you sound like a fanboy :?

O wait you really are

Pretty upsetting to me. More powerful hardware brings a lot more to the table than prettier graphics. I haven't seen anything from Natal or Gem games-wise that has me interested in them yet...

This is pretty much why I just got a huge PC upgrade. The technological gap between them is already huge, I can't begin to imagine how 2012 PCs are gonna compare to the 360 and PS3.

We need new consoles already. I'm sick of this gen.

Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestThePsTriple

Nothing you said is remotly true

[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]Riiiight, 360 sales are decreasing, microsoft are losing a ton of money thanks to RROD and the ps3 is making the 360 look last gen in the graphics department. Microsoft NEED a new xbox out by 2011 at the latestkolkov01

Nothing you said is remotly true

I don't think the 360 was built future proof. That's just me.

I don't think the 360 was built future proof. That's just me.

Zero_epyon

I don't think the 360 was built future proof. That's just me.

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

I don't think the 360 was built future proof. That's just me.

themerlin

How do you know ps3 will last another 2-3 years counting Sony is losing money with each console sold :|

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

I don't think the 360 was built future proof. That's just me.

themerlin