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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="xboxdude333"]Do i have to buy these maps. Noxboxdude333
not if u dont own the game, is that what u mean?
I own the game
and what if most of the players end up playing on the maps that u dont have? being all alone is a server cant be that fun, do u agree?
or what if the maps were free? u wont dl them at all?
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]or you could just not buy them?the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.
daveg1
but then agin your a sony fanboy so that wouldnt do ,would it.
if u dont buy them have fun watching most users playing on the new maps.
the thing here is, if u own geow and like the game you have to buy it.
but if u dont like the game then u dont have to get them, then i agree with u.
but the thing here is that 99.9% of all lemms in here that own the game warship geow so pull out that wallet.
[QUOTE="xboxdude333"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="xboxdude333"]Do i have to buy these maps. NoGermanShepard06
not if u dont own the game, is that what u mean?
I own the game
and what if most of the players end up playing on the maps that u dont have? being all alone is a server cant be that fun, do u agree?
or what if the maps were free? u wont dl them at all?
Well i dont play the game that much anymore so i wouldnt really carethe latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.
GermanShepard06
Are you going to do this when some Warhawk maps cost money? :|
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Puckhog04
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
u dont need to tell me that, its obvious.
but i do have a pc with 8800gts but im still going to get the game for my ps3 cuz i got two bros who like to use my pc alot.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
GermanShepard06
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
u dont need to tell me that, its obvious.
but i do have a pc with 8800gts but im still going to get the game for my ps3 cuz i got two bros who like to use my pc alot.
Your PC? Why do you let them use it? Shouldn't you have priority?
Heh, your loss.
[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.
I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.
kankthetank
So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.
People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.
Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.
I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets.
P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.
It's the consumer that messes it up for us by "buying" things then. If people didn't pay for those new maps then they most likely wouldn't be charged for. If people are willing to waste money on entertainment , which we don't need to exist by the way, then companies (all of them) will be willing to charge.
You don't think Blu-Ray if succesful won't put a dent in consumers pockets since Blu-Ray movies cost more?
Do you think that maybe Sony will most likely have to lower their price on the Ps3 which is basically worthless right now and is losing exclusives cause it isn't selling well? (the answer is yes to that by the way)
As everybody knows on here lots of people steal from software companies and music publishers by getting illiegal copies of games, and other software. Right now peopel are downloading free movies and music(Mp3s). I don't blame these companies for charging for stuff cause of people that rip them off all the time and will continue to do so.
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.
PS3_3DO
Are you going to do this when some Warhawk maps cost money? :|
sooo sony is going to force sony to charge money for extra maps? ur logic is broken in many ways. Warhawk is sony's game.
it seems that u dont got a clue what this is all about.
I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? DaddyDC650
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Puckhog04
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
u dont need to tell me that, its obvious.
but i do have a pc with 8800gts but im still going to get the game for my ps3 cuz i got two bros who like to use my pc alot.
Your PC? Why do you let them use it? Shouldn't you have priority?
Heh, your loss.
u want me the charge them money? who u think i am? MS?
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? PS3_3DO
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
UT2007 is next.
[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Puckhog04
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
Whichever version a person is enjoying , is the superior version. I'm sick of this "the PC has the superior version" geek talk.
[QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.
I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.
Fruity_Fantasy
So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.
People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.
Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.
I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets.
P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.
It's the consumer that messes it up for us by "buying" things then. If people didn't pay for those new maps then they most likely wouldn't be charged for. If people are willing to waste money on entertainment , which we don't need to exist by the way, then companies (all of them) will be willing to charge.
You don't think Blu-Ray if succesful won't put a dent in consumers pockets since Blu-Ray movies cost more?
Do you think that maybe Sony will most likely have to lower their price on the Ps3 which is basically worthless right now and is losing exclusives cause it isn't selling well? (the answer is yes to that by the way)
As everybody knows on here lots of people steal from software companies and music publishers by getting illiegal copies of games, and other software. Right now peopel are downloading free movies and music(Mp3s). I don't blame these companies for charging for stuff cause of people that rip them off all the time and will continue to do so.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? PS3_3DO
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
I'm pretty sure it's Microsoft that wants to charge gamers for the maps and not Epic.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
GermanShepard06
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
u dont need to tell me that, its obvious.
but i do have a pc with 8800gts but im still going to get the game for my ps3 cuz i got two bros who like to use my pc alot.
Your PC? Why do you let them use it? Shouldn't you have priority?
Heh, your loss.
u want me the charge them money? who u think i am? MS?
I guess you aren't the owner of the PC then...
Again, your loss. ;)
[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.
I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.
kankthetank
So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.
People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.
Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.
I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets.
P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.
It's the consumer that messes it up for us by "buying" things then. If people didn't pay for those new maps then they most likely wouldn't be charged for. If people are willing to waste money on entertainment , which we don't need to exist by the way, then companies (all of them) will be willing to charge.
You don't think Blu-Ray if succesful won't put a dent in consumers pockets since Blu-Ray movies cost more?
Do you think that maybe Sony will most likely have to lower their price on the Ps3 which is basically worthless right now and is losing exclusives cause it isn't selling well? (the answer is yes to that by the way)
As everybody knows on here lots of people steal from software companies and music publishers by getting illiegal copies of games, and other software. Right now peopel are downloading free movies and music(Mp3s). I don't blame these companies for charging for stuff cause of people that rip them off all the time and will continue to do so.
I agree with all what you said and I don't have anything to add. All I'm trying to say is, as consumers, let's not be too forgiving (I will actually buy the new maps since I'm craving more content in Gears). but don't you see?!?! you paid 60 dollars for a game that has no real depth, run, hide, shoot. it doesn't have enough in the disk to keep you satisfied, so you're willing to fork over 5 or 10 dollars to have what should have been included with the game or made free? really, try playing games where the devs actually put enough content on the disk, it feels great to know you won't have to pay for extras.[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? GermanShepard06
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
UT2007 is next.
Yeah Sony is going to charge for them on PSN. They need the money for all those servers they need to run Hype ... opps I mean Home. ;)
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Fruity_Fantasy
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
Whichever version a person is enjoying , is the superior version. I'm sick of this "the PC has the superior version" geek talk.
Except, for the most part, the PC version is mostly superior. Look at any version of a game and the PC version will be technically superior. It's not geek talk, it's common sense.
[QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="kankthetank"]You know, this sort of thing happens all the time in the business world; between the developers and their publishers. However, I believe that Epic was probably forced to lay it out in the open and to an extent, I agree with you, GermanShepard, that what Microsoft is doing is starting to anger me quite a bit.
I support xbox Live, it's a great service and I don't mind paying for it but all this microtransactions crap on top of the service price is just too much, imo. I can understand from a business perspective, considering the huge fanbase, that having the new Gears of Wars maps for a price can be a profitable move. But come on...Microsoft's acting like they're alone in this competition and incidents like this are gonna bite them back in the ass. Somehow, I'm hoping Sony would take advantage of this situation just to let MS learn their lesson.
paullywog
So you think none of Sony games(the few their are) won't even charge fro maps at the SOny store? Guess again.
People have a choice to buy something or not, if you don't like MS don't use windows, don't play your Xbox and sell it , therefore not buying anymore games and supporting it.
Sony doesn't stick it to you with hardware? They have TVs, stereos, phones and they own half the movie industry. The only thing I see MS intervening with is computers and games, I could give a rat's ass about MSNBC or other ways MS makes profits.
I love my 360 and I don't get milked cause I choose what I buy, maybe you are one of those people that have to buy everything or have someone buy everything for you. I don't know your situation. Gears was one of the best games to come out in a long time and I got my money's worth and have no regrets.
P.s. I wasted more money on SOny hardware than MS products. I bought walkmans that broke and Stereos that broke. If this TV I have that is a SOny breaks I will never touch a SOny product again. I also have a Sony Ericsson phone that is way too low in volume and I can't wait to get a decent phone.
It's the consumer that messes it up for us by "buying" things then. If people didn't pay for those new maps then they most likely wouldn't be charged for. If people are willing to waste money on entertainment , which we don't need to exist by the way, then companies (all of them) will be willing to charge.
You don't think Blu-Ray if succesful won't put a dent in consumers pockets since Blu-Ray movies cost more?
Do you think that maybe Sony will most likely have to lower their price on the Ps3 which is basically worthless right now and is losing exclusives cause it isn't selling well? (the answer is yes to that by the way)
As everybody knows on here lots of people steal from software companies and music publishers by getting illiegal copies of games, and other software. Right now peopel are downloading free movies and music(Mp3s). I don't blame these companies for charging for stuff cause of people that rip them off all the time and will continue to do so.
[QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Puckhog04
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
Whichever version a person is enjoying , is the superior version. I'm sick of this "the PC has the superior version" geek talk.
Except, for the most part, the PC version is mostly superior. Look at any version of a game and the PC version will be technically superior. It's not geek talk, it's common sense.
thats only partly true. you forgot to mention that PC power varies from person to person. PC is ONLY superior when theres the latest,greatest, superior technology found in it. i bet you UT2007 will lag like s--- on my PC. but it'll play smoother on my 360 or future Ps3. what you said is not true to everyone. so dont say PC is superior for every single gamer in the world.germanshepard didn't you get the memo? lemmings dont mind getting milked to the extreme. buh buh buh its about the choices. :cry: :lol:InfamousC
:lol:
good one.
[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="Fruity_Fantasy"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]cant wait for UT2007 to come out for my ps3, free online, free maps, keyboard, mouse.
Solid-CELL
Yet, the PC version is still going to be superior.
Whichever version a person is enjoying , is the superior version. I'm sick of this "the PC has the superior version" geek talk.
Except, for the most part, the PC version is mostly superior. Look at any version of a game and the PC version will be technically superior. It's not geek talk, it's common sense.
thats only partly true. you forgot to mention that PC power varies from person to person. PC is ONLY superior when theres the latest,greatest, superior technology found in it. i bet you UT2007 will lag like s--- on my PC. but it'll play smoother on my 360 or future Ps3. what you said is not true to everyone. so dont say PC is superior for every single gamer in the world.From a techinical standpoint, the PC version is almost always superior. The opinion of players varies due to system performance but is seen on a case by case type of deal. Of course, if a persons PC can't run the game, it won't be the best. That's fairly obvious...i thought that would be clear enough. But, no, you don't need to have anywhere near the "latest, greatest, superior technology" found on a PC to have it look better than the console counterparts.
the latest news about ms forcing epic to charge fans money for free maps is just downright sad, if i was a x360 fan i would sell it the next day and i would send a letter to bill gates and tell him thanks for nothing.
GermanShepard06
i highly doubt microsoft, is forcing epicgames to charge money for new maps, epicgames just wants more money so they using excuse microsoft forces them, dude epicgames barly made maps for unreal championship.
[QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? PS3_3DO
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
Desperate Lemmingism to the end huh? It's very clear that MS is the one charging when Epic intended the maps to be free. Even your fellow Lemmings know this. Time to pull you head out from ... well ... you know where it currently resides.[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? 2largeadults
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
Desperate Lemmingism to the end huh? It's very clear that MS is the one charging when Epic intended the maps to be free. Even your fellow Lemmings know this. Time to pull you head out from ... well ... you know where it currently resides. you do realize that if epic and microsoft charge lets say $2 for the new content and say 2 million people buy that content they are going to make 4 million dollas dont you??? Thats why they want to charge for the content and i dont see the problem,they are the ones that have put time and money in to makin the content so why cant they get some thing back from it....yeah..im going to sell my 360 back just because i need to pay for afew maps...riiight :roll: germanshepard why do you even bother trying to sound like you ever had interest in the 360?lawlessx
Yea, ok buddy. I bet people would flip out if Sony did it.
[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"][QUOTE="DaddyDC650"]I think that it's pathetic that MS is stopping Epic from releasing the maps for free. 360 owners already have to pay 50 bucks a year so why not reward them with some free maps? deron2
Yeah I bet they are. I think Epic is tired of not getting any money for all the work they do. This is Epics way of saying the free ride is over pals.
Desperate Lemmingism to the end huh? It's very clear that MS is the one charging when Epic intended the maps to be free. Even your fellow Lemmings know this. Time to pull you head out from ... well ... you know where it currently resides. you do realize that if epic and microsoft charge lets say $2 for the new content and say 2 million people buy that content they are going to make 4 million dollas dont you??? Thats why they want to charge for the content and i dont see the problem,they are the ones that have put time and money in to makin the content so why cant they get some thing back from it.... I have no problem with them charging. Of course no smart company is going to leave $4 million on the table. I was merely correcting the fanboy's idea that it was Epic behind this charging of money and not Microsoft.While I certainly feel that the maps should be free, I'm not really concerned that they are charging. They already released so free ones and If you ask me, everything should be free, so what the hell do I know?
It's MS's service and their business model. They will succeed or fail because of it, not because some fanboys who don't even have the service or the game, don't want to pay. It's really cool that Epic wanted to release the maps for free. And I think they will. I wonder what fanboys will have to complain about then?
I hate the fact that they charge for those dumbass gamer pics, so I don't buy them and I suggest people do the same instead of whining about it here. Speak with you wallet, it always works.
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