Microsofts manipulation of the media exposed (good read)

What about this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24814999

Not just their OS but software like Office. Still yet to be fixed i think, the public know about it and MS have even told users to use work arounds to avoid people being able to gain the user rights on your PC with no guarantee of a patch until the end of month ones.

Microsoft for decades been known for manipulating to get what they want. They do back alley deals constantly, how exactly is this a surprise to anyone? On even the lower end they have been caught many times planting applauders at their shows.

They are a huge powerful, known, and wealthy company that spans around the world and most of their products are falling behind while the company constantly treats its customers like shit. Of course they manipulate and bend everything constantly, its the only way they can stay relevant.

You miss the point, probably because you are obviously a Microsoft fanboy since you use derogatory terms like cows and such.

It was unacceptable at the time because MS was charging for the same thing sony was giving away for free, and you got for free on the pc. But now that sony is charging also it is no longer an issue because both are charging, so there is no comparison to made anymore. Once sony started charging a fee the argument was removed. It was never about not charging, it was about charging what the competition did for free.

But now its still tipped in sonys favor because sony charges less than Microsoft. They also give you a lot more like 18 games as soon as you sign up and 5 new games a month, PSN store discounts, full game trials, online save backups, and more for 10 dollars less than XBLG. All Microsoft gives you is 2 games a month. Not to mention Microsoft still puts everything behind a paywall like Netflix or even chatting with friends while sony lets you have those and more things for free. So its no longer about charging vs not charging, now its about paying more to get hardly anything vs paying less a getting 10x's more.

My PC has never been hacked, i have never lost any personal information from my PC and i never heard of 77 million people losing there personal details in one go on PC, damage control all you want, the PSN hack is regarded as one of the biggest losses in personal information since the internet started.

'At the time of the outage, with a count of 77 million registered PlayStation Network accounts, it was one of the largest data security breaches in history. It surpassed the 2007 TJX hack which affected 45 million customers.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

And don't bother with the 'bu-bu- no one lost any money' Crap, doesn't excuse the fact that 77 million personal details where stolen as a result of Poor security, outdated servers and outdated security software.

But they promised 1080P at 120 fps in 4D !

it was pretty obviously a joke to begin with. Just look at the conversation between me and charizard, it was obviously hyperbole

How are they "free games" when you're paying for the service?

They have P2P multiplayer behind that paywall now. You pay $50 a year just to play online.

Now that made me LOL. I guess if you look past all the lies, root kits and stolen credit card info. So glad we have Sony to put viruses on our computer and get all my credit info in the hands of thieves. Makes me sleep much easier at night.

Right and Sony never did anything. I think I see a hypocrite.

Sony never did back alley deal or lie to get what they want. Guess you don't remember the sega days then.

Sony ALWAYS treats their customers like royalty right? Not only do I smell a hypocrite but a huge raging cow as well.

1. That's your opinion. Sony's online was horrible and wasn't worth paying for.

2. Sony is charging AFTER saying online should be free. Cows complained for the past 10 years about paying for online and how Sony would never charge. Guess just another lie from Sony.

3. You mean once Sony started charging it's no longer a bad thing. It's not acceptable to charge to P2P online.

4. Spoken like a true fanboy. Sony might charge less because Live>PSN

5. Hate to break the news but what are they going to give once the PS4 launches? the PS4 isn't backwards compatible not to mention these so called "free" games are taken away the minute you stop paying.

6. No it's about hypocritical cows saying charging for online is ok now because Sony is doing it. Yea,h I'm calling you a hypocrite.

Doesn't address TC stating he could never back a company like MS for NDAs, when as you yourself stated, and I already knew, every company has them, even Sony. So TC, why can you back them, then?

Neither did my PS3... Oh wait you still holding to the 77 million crap..

Sony reach 50 million units

April 2011.

Hack happen on April 2011

How in hell 77 million accounts were hack when only 50 million PS3 were sold on April 2011...?

HOW...

That would imply that each and every PS3 ever bough was taken online with a credit card info,even xbox live has 46 million users this year combined with gold and silver and they are considering to be the biggest online community on consoles,+ 27 million more accounts from other sources,but the hack happen on PS3.

Again explain to me how 77 million accounts were stolen when only 50 million PS3 existed on April 2011.

https://www.google.com/#q=windows+security+problems

Oh a barrage of problems and for years and years is not new you can pretend that windows is safe,there is no anti virus on consoles,how many are on windows.?

PSN accounts cover more than the Ps3, nice try though.

The PlayStation Network outage was the result of an "external intrusion" on Sony's PlayStation Network and Qriocity services, in which personal details from approximately 77 million accounts were stolen and prevented users of PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Portable consoles from playing online through the service

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Network_outage

It covered accounts on PSP as well. looks like YOU got owned, do your research next time.

LOL comedy gold this thread is. Would read again. The MS defense team......

The guy that wrote this article ASSUMES the NDA's are for devs to keep quiet about the Ps4 being more powerful. NOT true.

If anything the secret was to prevent the other side from gaining knowledge and doing a last minute hardware change and covering up AMD's new tech. Just my opinion but the author is a little biased.