Microsoft's one, two punch to Sony's gut..... R.I.P Sony

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#1 xnacommunityxna
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Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

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#2 ItsBriskBaby
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Really!? Cause I could of swore I looked at my 360 just a minute ago and it's face was badly bruised up from all the great games Sony has been throwing at them lately.

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#3 aka_aj03
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why you care... are you going to gain anything from this beside maybe a slim model or that natal. What it is in for you? Is Microsoft going to send you a paycheck or something.
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#4 nofriekinlemons
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aahh ya man i cant wait to hit those big red balls, whew what fun i'll have.:roll:

and that new xbox i cant wait to buy my fifth xbox yet it'll be so fun.

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#6 xnacommunityxna
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2 threads? Your a sad trollBigBadLanTerN

close this topic... i posted it twice by mistake

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#7 SolidTy
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This is the same thread I just read...what's going on in SW?

This is NATAL, I'm not sure I want it...

If a 360 slim rumor is revealed to actually be true, and we can't use our current 360 HDD's, I can't imagine how anyone will be able to spin that a good news.

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#8 gamebreakerz__
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[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

So they copy PS3 with a slim, then an eyetoy rip off and they are somehow winning? Sales isn't everything
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#9 W1NGMAN-
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Doubt an increase in sales and Natal will make me turn on my 360 more than my PS3 ...
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#10 mayceV
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only if it cost 150 bucks and comes with a built in hard drive and natal. and MS sells the remainging arcades for 100$ but I see it this way slim=200$ with natal without =150.
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#11 BlancoBX
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Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

xnacommunityxna

no just blatantly copying sony with slim consoles and natal with the eye toy...but since its microsoft its fine :roll:

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#12 Cow_tipping
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xbox360 sales will definitely increase mostly because xbox360 fanboys will bay the slim version even if they already have the current one

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#13 Hahadouken
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Uh oh, I guess this is it guys. Might as well sell off our PS3's while they're still worth something! :lol:
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#14 Giancar
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give lems some ammo (or speculation in this case) and voila!
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Should I be preparing a funeral?
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#16 sillaris
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this is the 7th version of 360 allready? the RROD Slim is next

and natal? natal.... talking to a 7yr old.... such fun

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It will sell pretty well if it's at the right price point. For all those who don't have a 360 that is. Those that do, can get Natal seperately IF its cheap, not if its more than $50 is my guess.

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#18 BlancoBX
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It will sell pretty well if it's at the right price point. For all those who don't have a 360 that is. Those that do, can get Natal seperately IF its cheap, not if its more than $50 is my guess.

Phazevariance

I look at natal in 2 ways:

1. They price it relatively cheap, but the tech isnt anywhere near what they are promising and doesnt get much support

2. The tech works like they say it does but is really really expensive

I cant see the natal tech working exactly as they say it will while also being priced low enough for people to want to buy it

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#19 mythrol
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This is obvious flame bait. None of the big 3 are going anywhere, anything soon.
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Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

xnacommunityxna

People have been saying this ever since the PS3 released. I still don't see it dead.

And if you remember? MS had a 4 billion dollar loss with the original XBOX? Sony might have more amount of losses but I highly doubt them stopping as a company. Sony has other products other than game related ones.

Might I remind you of this?

Instead of trolling, you can buy the other systems and enjoy more games for yourself. Your loyalty in companies has no use other than limiting the amount of games you could play.

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#21 LegatoSkyheart
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Xbox 360 Victory Plan.

LAWL! :lol:

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#22 lucky_star
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[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

Its gonna do good in the U.S. Like Ford, It does good in the U.S crappy everywhere else. Americans buy american products, quality isnt a factor. As always, NA numbers isnt enough, sorry. Ps3 will continue to outsell the 360 WW because you forgot about Move and possible price cuts.
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#23 X360PS3AMD05
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They'll be lucky to beat Sony, Nintendo aint gonna happen buddy!
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#24 walkingdream
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[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

fend_oblivion

People have been saying this ever since the PS3 released. I still don't see it dead.

And if you remember? MS had a 4 billion dollar loss with the original XBOX? Sony might have more amount of losses but I highly doubt them stopping as a company. Sony has other products other than game related ones.

Might I remind you of this?

Instead of trolling, you can buy the other systems and enjoy more games for yourself. Your loyalty in companies has no use other than limiting the amount of games you could play.

Lol somebody bothered to make that? Anyway isn't that more of PS3 fanboys list? I remember E3 2005 and Cows were going off their nut and saying Xbox was finished blah blah blah Not a complete reversal but boy a big turn around lol

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#25 DethSkematik
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I really don't give a crap about Natal (and I REALLY hate the Move), but I'm interested in a slim 360. It's been two years too long since I played a 360 game (and I need an "excuse" to play Halo Reach) :P.
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#26 fend_oblivion
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

Natal and a Slim model...

It really is genious when you think about it, isn't it? Relaunching the Xbox brand with a completly new console and a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either. Personally I think Microsoft will dominate 2011 in sales for a few reasons lets look at what made the wii so successful when it launched

1. Holiday release

2. Radically new way to play games

3. Press Coverage (Jimmy Fallon, Good Morning America)

we have these three ingrediants this coming holiday season... all in which point to a new (and rightfully so) leader of the console wars:

MICROSOFT

it doesnt take a marketing analyst to see why this will be so successful, all the competition should watch out... this includes Nintendo, as for Sony :lol: uhhh good luck?

walkingdream

People have been saying this ever since the PS3 released. I still don't see it dead.

And if you remember? MS had a 4 billion dollar loss with the original XBOX? Sony might have more amount of losses but I highly doubt them stopping as a company. Sony has other products other than game related ones.

Might I remind you of this?

Instead of trolling, you can buy the other systems and enjoy more games for yourself. Your loyalty in companies has no use other than limiting the amount of games you could play.

Lol somebody bothered to make that? Anyway isn't that more of PS3 fanboys list? I remember E3 2005 and Cows were going off their nut and saying Xbox was finished blah blah blah Not a complete reversal but boy a big turn around lol

What I was trying to show was this fanboy fights are worthless and an utter waste of time. Be a Manticore people. We play games, not companies.

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#27 CAPSROGUE
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What I loved most about this post was:

System Wars Universal Standings:

sales: 1st- Wii 2nd-3603rd-PS3

games: 1st-3602nd-PS33rd- Wii

Averages:

360: 1 + 2 / 2 = 1.5th place

Wii: 1 + 3 / 2 = 2nd place

PS3: 3 + 2 / 2 = 2.5th place

xnacommunityxna

Nothing beats mathematical equations that absolutely make no sense.

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#28 fend_oblivion
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What I loved most about this post was:

[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

System Wars Universal Standings:

sales: 1st- Wii 2nd-3603rd-PS3

games: 1st-3602nd-PS33rd- Wii

Averages:

360: 1 + 2 / 2 = 1.5th place

Wii: 1 + 3 / 2 = 2nd place

PS3: 3 + 2 / 2 = 2.5th place

CAPSROGUE

Nothing beats mathematical equations that absolutely make no sense.

Oh dear. How did you take an average like that? I don't understand at all either.

*throws logic out of brain* OH, NOWZ I UNDERSPANT!!!

*in Gollum's voice* Though, what is 1.5th place and 2.5th place my precious?

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#29 Mr_arizona
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Lock 2 fanboys in a room with 2 rocks and they would fight to the death about which rock is better. :roll:

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#30 shawn7324
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Not interested in either of those, but I do still prefer my 360 over my PS3.

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#31 FIipMode
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People have been saying this ever since the PS3 released. I still don't see it dead.

And if you remember? MS had a 4 billion dollar loss with the original XBOX? Sony might have more amount of losses but I highly doubt them stopping as a company. Sony has other products other than game related ones.

Might I remind you of this?

Instead of trolling, you can buy the other systems and enjoy more games for yourself. Your loyalty in companies has no use other than limiting the amount of games you could play.

fend_oblivion

That pic made me lol :lol:

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#32 VanDammFan
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xbox360 sales will definitely increase mostly because xbox360 fanboys will bay the slim version even if they already have the current one

Cow_tipping

This is why MS has the numbers it has already...AND I have bought 2 since launch..BUT no more for me...SONY has my money now. MS can rot in H

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#33 Miroku32
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I love these threads. Fanboys are so amusing.
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#34 Totalgym9000
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I really dont think natal will do anything, nobody wants to play a game without a controller, even kids and soccer mums will reject it and that will be the only people it's good for. atleast sony is copying a product they know is already accepted by casuals.
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#35 darthogre
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Lems are putting too much on Natal........specially when MS has basically shown nothing. You have no real games to hype up so it's like you are hyping an IDEA.......that is always a bad idea because it usually backfires. Radically new way to play games................lol............................notice how he doesn't describe this "radical new way".
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#36 conistant
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[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

What I loved most about this post was:

[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

System Wars Universal Standings:

sales: 1st- Wii 2nd-3603rd-PS3

games: 1st-3602nd-PS33rd- Wii

Averages:

360: 1 + 2 / 2 = 1.5th place

Wii: 1 + 3 / 2 = 2nd place

PS3: 3 + 2 / 2 = 2.5th place

fend_oblivion

Nothing beats mathematical equations that absolutely make no sense.

Oh dear. How did you take an average like that? I don't understand at all either.

*throws logic out of brain* OH, NOWZ I UNDERSPANT!!!

*in Gollum's voice* Though, what is 1.5th place and 2.5th place my precious?

Best comments I have read today.
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#37 big_smoke_666
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lol Natal looks horrible! seriously! and then to call it a damaging blow to sony??? wow talk about your blind fanboyism

"oh look! MS have come up with this never before seen never heard of idea! play games without a controller!! i'll support that to the death even though they have shown practically nothing and is probably going to be riddled with bugs but who cares cos it's made by Microsoft!!!11. . . now i'll go insult the Wii for being a casual console lawl!!" - 360 fanboy

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#38 savagetwinkie
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Really!? Cause I could of swore I looked at my 360 just a minute ago and it's face was badly bruised up from all the great games Sony has been throwing at them lately.

ItsBriskBaby
i don't think M$ cares about sony any more, they've already taken all of last gens defining games, they have started several new studios recently so more first party titles should be coming, the experience on their system is pretty solid from ALL games even multiplats where ps3 you can still get some really bad apples (hello bayonnetta!) and they have taken at least half of sony's market share from last gen. It took 3 years for most of sony's launch titles to come out, after launch (they were'nt really launch titles but we new about them before sony's system came out) and still have gt5 coming, but now that all those games came out theres not TONS to look forward to any more. Sony is in a much better position then they were but are stumbling into the same stutter that M$ is starting to come out of,
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#39 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="conistant"][QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

What I loved most about this post was:

[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

System Wars Universal Standings:

sales: 1st- Wii 2nd-3603rd-PS3

games: 1st-3602nd-PS33rd- Wii

Averages:

360: 1 + 2 / 2 = 1.5th place

Wii: 1 + 3 / 2 = 2nd place

PS3: 3 + 2 / 2 = 2.5th place

Nothing beats mathematical equations that absolutely make no sense.

Oh dear. How did you take an average like that? I don't understand at all either.

*throws logic out of brain* OH, NOWZ I UNDERSPANT!!!

*in Gollum's voice* Though, what is 1.5th place and 2.5th place my precious?

Best comments I have read today.

maybe he's trying to do some sort of standard deviation
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#40 Ravenlore_basic
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:) okay... that was :D ?? IDK. From someone who has not even played 1 game on Natal. :shock: Really at least it was good for a :lol: LMAO :lol:

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#41 CajunShooter
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a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either.

xnacommunityxna

Eye Toy Kinetic disagrees

Released in Nov 2005

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#42 II_Seraphim_II
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Has the X360 slim been announced yet? And is anyone else concerned about the second coming of the RROD in the new slim model? :? If the pics people had up are anything to go by, I seriously would not trust that fan...

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#43 kittyloaf69
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Just wondering how a slimmer version of the same thing is a "new console." Natal's success (as well as Sony Move) is still up in the air until we see some solid game support. Making statements such as "RIP Sony" is fanboyish and stupid. Both games have a lot of games coming out and the rest of the year looks solid for both platforms.
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#44 SecretPolice
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Yikes, well TC I would guess you got a 200+ post count going with this thread - grats....:P

On topic, We shall see.

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#45 yanbuco2712
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[QUOTE="xnacommunityxna"]

a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either.

CajunShooter

Eye Toy Kinetic disagrees

Released in Nov 2005

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#46 darthogre
Member since 2006 • 5082 Posts
[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

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a completly new way to play.

When i say "completly new way to play" I dont mean blatantly copying Nintendo, either.

Eye Toy Kinetic disagrees

Released in Nov 2005

That's what I've been saying since Natal has been announced........"hasn't Sony already done this before with Eye toy?". Of course we don't really know how the games on Natal will play so we can't really say they copied Sony......yet. But that's why this post is just silly, specially calling out Sony for copying Nintendo lol. Sony has been doing motion sensing way before Nintendo or MS. It's just no bought it for the PS2.
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#47 CajunShooter
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That's what I've been saying since Natal has been announced........"hasn't Sony already done this before with Eye toy?". Of course we don't really know how the games on Natal will play so we can't really say they copied Sony......yet. But that's why this post is just silly, specially calling out Sony for copying Nintendo lol. Sony has been doing motion sensing way before Nintendo or MS. It's just no bought it for the PS2.darthogre
Controller less motion games are going to be a harder sell than something like Sony's Move. People are familiar with the Wii controller now, and the Wii remote benefited because it closely resembles a TV remote. The casual people are now familiar with these things. They aren't familiar with controller less gaming. Plus the lack of buttons creates a gameplay problem for games. PS2's eyetoy suffered from this. That isn't to say that developers can't find out unique ways to develop a game for it.

The one pro for NATAL is that MS is going to put out a lot more support for it than the PS2 eye toy. Once the eye toy didn't sell tremendously, developers had no reason to dedicate resources for making a game on it. First thing MS needs to do is make sure as many people as possible have Natal which packaging it in with lets say a 360 all for $300 is a good start.

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#48 def_mode
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360 Slim will claim ownage? this has got to be a joke.

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#49 ItsBriskBaby
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Really!? Cause I could of swore I looked at my 360 just a minute ago and it's face was badly bruised up from all the great games Sony has been throwing at them lately.

savagetwinkie

i don't think M$ cares about sony any more, they've already taken all of last gens defining games, they have started several new studios recently so more first party titles should be coming, the experience on their system is pretty solid from ALL games even multiplats where ps3 you can still get some really bad apples (hello bayonnetta!) and they have taken at least half of sony's market share from last gen. It took 3 years for most of sony's launch titles to come out, after launch (they were'nt really launch titles but we new about them before sony's system came out) and still have gt5 coming, but now that all those games came out theres not TONS to look forward to any more. Sony is in a much better position then they were but are stumbling into the same stutter that M$ is starting to come out of,

LOL what? Dude you're crazy if you think Sony is coming to a stutter. There's so many exclusive 1st party games they have yet to bring out it's insane!

The Getaway 8-Days

Twisted Metal

Jak and Daxter

FF vs 13

LBP 2

KZ3

RFOM3

Sly Cooper

and the list can go on and on. You would be dumb if you think they don't have extra guns put up for a fight involving games.

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#50 yanbuco2712
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="ItsBriskBaby"]

Really!? Cause I could of swore I looked at my 360 just a minute ago and it's face was badly bruised up from all the great games Sony has been throwing at them lately.

ItsBriskBaby

i don't think M$ cares about sony any more, they've already taken all of last gens defining games, they have started several new studios recently so more first party titles should be coming, the experience on their system is pretty solid from ALL games even multiplats where ps3 you can still get some really bad apples (hello bayonnetta!) and they have taken at least half of sony's market share from last gen. It took 3 years for most of sony's launch titles to come out, after launch (they were'nt really launch titles but we new about them before sony's system came out) and still have gt5 coming, but now that all those games came out theres not TONS to look forward to any more. Sony is in a much better position then they were but are stumbling into the same stutter that M$ is starting to come out of,

LOL what? Dude you're crazy if you think Sony is coming to a stutter. There's so many exclusive 1st party games they have yet to bring out it's insane!

The Getaway 8-Days

Twisted Metal

Jak and Daxter

FF vs 13

LBP 2

KZ3

RFOM3

Sly Cooper

and the list can go on and on. Sony you would be dumb if you think they don't have extra guns put up for a fight involving games.

I thought 8 days was cancelled