Microsoft's Robbie Bach on MGS4: "We'll see"

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#1 Xeratule
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Source: http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=22217

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GG: What about Metal Gear Solid 4?

RB: Well we'll see, Metal Gear Solid 4 is not here yet, certainly it's a great game and has been a great franchise, they've (Kojima productions) done great work historically, on the Xbox you'll see a lot of great Splinter cell work, those two end up competing with each other pretty aggressively. So again it's sort of the same thing. It's not clear that I look at it and say oh gosh that's something that I absolutely have to have. We'd love to have it on the platform but I think I have a product that'll do well in that category.

GG: An internal spokesman at Toshiba recently spoke about a 360 with an in built HD-DVD drive in the works, is this true?

RB: Now what we've done with HD-DVD is we've made it available as a peripheral and frankly we do that because most of our customers do not want to send the extra expense that has an HD drive built into the product, for us it's a great option to offer to people, we are big supporters of HD DVD and have worked with Toshiba, but we don't have any plans to do anything about it right now.

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#2 Jared2720
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Translation = Not a chance.
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#3 Haee
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Sounds like jealousy to me
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#4 Funkyhamster
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Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.
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#5 ultima-flare
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We'd love to have it on the platform but I think I have a product that'll do well in that category.

Xeratule

In other words, NO

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Translation = Not a chance.Jared2720

Yup to me this seems to confirm a no-go for MSG on the 360.

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#7 the_h_bomb
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it'll be out on 360 a few months after the 5 people who own a PS3 have bought it
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#8 0rin
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Translation = Not a chance.Jared2720


On either front. I wouldn't doubt it Microsoft tried wagging their money in Kojimas face already, and he rejected them, thats why they seem so "unimpressed" with MGS4. I'd try to pass it off as "unimportant" too if it had no chance of showing up on my console, and thus was "competition".
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#9 Ilived
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In other news, MGS: Party Animals announced for Wii.
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#10 fuzzysquash
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Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.Funkyhamster

Eventually, as in 2 years, maybe, but the contract between Sony and Konami has been signed.

Please stop kicking a dead horse, people.

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#11 DaysAirlines
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Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.Funkyhamster
It's a year exclusive at least.
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"So again it's sort of the same thing. It's not clear that I look at it and say oh gosh that's something that I absolutely have to have. We'd love to have it on the platform but I think I have a product that'll do well in that category."

yeah that pretty much means no and now we're gonna play it off as if MGS4 isnt all that great.

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#13 Entourage_G
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In other words, NO.
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[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.fuzzysquash

Eventually, as in 2 years, maybe, but the contract between Sony and Konami has been signed.

Please stop kicking a dead horse, people.

It was Robbie Bach that decided to kick the dead horse.

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#15 PSP107
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MGS and Splinter never released at the same time frame is not mistaken.
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Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.Funkyhamster

It cost what, like 30 million to develop? That means they have to sell half a million to break even. Historically though, they sell about 4-5 million. I think they'll be ok with their 270 million dollar profit.

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#17 Kratos_OMEGA
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MGS4 will be the FIRST....repeat..FIRST Killer app for PS3. IT will sell very well on that system alone. Look at Gears for 360...and that was a NEW IP. The chances of it going to 360 are not impossible but highly unlikely.
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#18 pro-nathan-07
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"]

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.Xeratule

Eventually, as in 2 years, maybe, but the contract between Sony and Konami has been signed.

Please stop kicking a dead horse, people.

It was Robbie Bach that decided to kick the dead horse.

no. it was the guy who asks the questions :|
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#19 turgore
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I'd laugh so hard if SC V would outscore MGS4.
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#20 NavigatorsGhost
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yes, please keep downplaying MGS4 and comparing it to SC :lol:
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#21 Finale-
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Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools.
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[QUOTE="Jared2720"]Translation = Not a chance.0rin


On either front. I wouldn't doubt it Microsoft tried wagging their money in Kojimas face already, and he rejected them, thats why they seem so "unimpressed" with MGS4. I'd try to pass it off as "unimportant" too if it had no chance of showing up on my console, and thus was "competition".

Either way, Im getting the ps3 version. Who wants to wait for a port?

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Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. Finale-

lol, sc is a very good game series liked by many people who arent tools.

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#24 wiljas
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Lets see a Microsoft emplyee tryingt o say MGS is a good series and then saying that splinter cell is just as good? Well that does sounds like an answer to cover up and push down the competition without people saying he is a total moron for ripping on MGS. if he said MGS sucked or was not that great of a game he would never be taken seriously again. if he Said it was a great game and didn't give the PR answer "Well we have a game also" he would get in trouble at Microsoft. So he gave the safe answer.

as for the built in HD-dvd drive. Toshiba has said it's not going to happen and microsoft has said it's not going to happen. They may change thier minds later. But HD-DVD will never be used for Games on the Xbox360 because as Sega learned the hard way. You can't sell games for perifials and make it sucessful.

So really not much of a chance of the HD-DVD drive being fully intergrated into the Xbox360 now.

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#25 Deactivation
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SC and MGS are two entirely different games. Gotta love MS compairing them acting as if they are somehow similar. /sigh @ MS
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#26 BambooBanger
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Wow, someone who works at Microsoft makes a throw-away comment about MGS4 and SC and all of a sudden Cows think they're all Anthropologist's and take it WAY out of context :roll:

Both system's get good games of the same vein, get over it.

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Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. Finale-

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.

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[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. telefanatic

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.



Gladly.  :)
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[QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. Jared2720

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.



Gladly. :)

Now all you have to do is wait.

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. BambooBanger

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.



Gladly. :)

Now all you have to do is wait.

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same goes for SC, not coming out til 08
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[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. telefanatic

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.

go hide in your dark corner :D

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[QUOTE="BambooBanger"][QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. mmirza23

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.



Gladly. :)

Now all you have to do is wait.

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same goes for SC, not coming out til 08

Which was pretty much always the case.

In any case, Cow's are waiting for MGS4 because they think it'll save their PreciouS3 from commercial oblivion, whilst Lemmings know SC will just be another great AA/AAA to add to the collection, plus there are better games coming out in the interim like Mass Effect.

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Lets see a Microsoft emplyee tryingt o say MGS is a good series and then saying that splinter cell is just as good? Well that does sounds like an answer to cover up and push down the competition without people saying he is a total moron for ripping on MGS. if he said MGS sucked or was not that great of a game he would never be taken seriously again. if he Said it was a great game and didn't give the PR answer "Well we have a game also" he would get in trouble at Microsoft. So he gave the safe answer.

as for the built in HD-dvd drive. Toshiba has said it's not going to happen and microsoft has said it's not going to happen. They may change thier minds later. But HD-DVD will never be used for Games on the Xbox360 because as Sega learned the hard way. You can't sell games for perifials and make it sucessful.

So really not much of a chance of the HD-DVD drive being fully intergrated into the Xbox360 now.

wiljas

Thats not what he said, he said Splinter Cell is a great game of the same genre.

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[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. telefanatic

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.

System Wars.....Serious busines.....
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MGS4's too big and it running all of it's cutscenes in real time,so no. Has anyone played MGS2 on xbox?Have you played with the controls? dont think you wanna play it.
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[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. telefanatic

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.

You're both idiots. They're both good games. Geez, why do I even come to this ignorant forum? I really hope there's not a heaven...
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#37 wemhim
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MGS4's too big and it running all of it's cutscenes in real time,so no. Has anyone played MGS2 on xbox?Have you played with the controls? dont think you wanna play it.Hitamaru-homia
The 360 controller is similar to the PS3 one now, just the triggers are different, no black and white buttons. Also, real time cutscenes....So? Anyways, it doesn't matter, it's not like the PS3 will be expensive forever, every person in a developed country should be able to play it if they want one day...
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[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.agentfred

It cost what, like 30 million to develop? That means they have to sell half a million to break even. Historically though, they sell about 4-5 million. I think they'll be ok with their 270 million dollar profit.

thats not even close to how it works, u dont just go "ok 60 times X and thats the cost...the developmental costs, plus production, the pay for the people making the game, the share of the retail stores, sonys share...games arent 100% profit

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it'll be out on 360 a few months after the 5 people who own a PS3 have bought itthe_h_bomb

5 people:lol:

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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"][QUOTE="Jared2720"][QUOTE="telefanatic"]

[QUOTE="Finale-"]Why is he comparing a great series like MGS to garbage like SC. The only people who like SC are a bunch of tools. BambooBanger

You dam cow go back to killing those stupid fairy tale mutants and screaming TREX robots that are in Metal Gear games.



Gladly. :)

Now all you have to do is wait.

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same goes for SC, not coming out til 08

Which was pretty much always the case.

In any case, Cow's are waiting for MGS4 because they think it'll save their PreciouS3 from commercial oblivion, whilst Lemmings know SC will just be another great AA/AAA to add to the collection, plus there are better games coming out in the interim like Mass Effect.

mgs4 will be the defining game for the PS3, SC is a quality franchise, i love the games but is inferior to the mgs series and wont be as huge from what you just said, plenty of good games on 360 to play.
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#41 EvilZero86
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it'll be out on 360 a few months after the 5 people who own a PS3 have bought itthe_h_bomb

I hope you didn't think too hard for that.

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If it is signed on as exclusive, it won't need to be ported even when the deal expires. MGS4 gives incentive to own a PS3, thus, helps the PS3 overall.
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#43 Riverwolf007
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I bet 360 gets an update of Snake's Revenge!!!!!

hehehe just kidding

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#44 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.ApocalypseXIVV

It cost what, like 30 million to develop? That means they have to sell half a million to break even. Historically though, they sell about 4-5 million. I think they'll be ok with their 270 million dollar profit.

thats not even close to how it works, u dont just go "ok 60 times X and thats the cost...the developmental costs, plus production, the pay for the people making the game, the share of the retail stores, sonys share...games arent 100% profit

do have a point to make? it's still going to sell enough.

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#45 BambooBanger
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[QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.Mordred19

It cost what, like 30 million to develop? That means they have to sell half a million to break even. Historically though, they sell about 4-5 million. I think they'll be ok with their 270 million dollar profit.

thats not even close to how it works, u dont just go "ok 60 times X and thats the cost...the developmental costs, plus production, the pay for the people making the game, the share of the retail stores, sonys share...games arent 100% profit

do have a point to make? it's still going to sell enough.

The point is that Konami is a Company, and for companies enough ISN't enough.

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#46 kevy619
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[QUOTE="the_h_bomb"]it'll be out on 360 a few months after the 5 people who own a PS3 have bought itDeadMan1290

5 people:lol:

I own a ps3, I must be rich.

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#47 IFBB-PRO
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Only true fanboys say MGS is miles ahead of SC. In reality both games always had very close review scores! I love it how cows comapared killzone to halo serieseven after killzone sold like crap and recieved horrible reviews everywhere. Even thou halo killed killzone in sales and reviews they were still praising killzone. It dont matter how well xbox game sellls or how many great reviews the game gets, it will always be garbage for them just because its xbox game, ignorant fanbosy!

It's like saying gears of war rules and halo sucks even thou both games at one time recieved game of the year, recieved great reviews and sold incredibly well. why cant people give credit where credit is do and like both games.

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#48 MaximumD
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Why do people want MGS4 ported over to the 360? The game won't fit a DVD and having multiple DVDs is dumb. You lose 1 DVD, you lose the whole game. How hard is that to understand.
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#49 mmirza23
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Only true fanboys say MGS is miles ahead of SC. In reality both games always had very close review scores! I love it how cows comapared killzone to halo serieseven after killzone sold like crap and recieved horrible reviews everywhere. Even thou halo killed killzone in sales and reviews they were still praising killzone. It dont matter how well xbox game sellls or how many great reviews the game gets, it will always be garbage for them just because its xbox game, ignorant fanbosy!

It's like saying gears of war rules and halo sucks even thou both games at one time recieved game of the year, recieved great reviews and sold incredibly well. why cant people give credit where credit is do and like both games.

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actually they're not the metal gear games have had 3 AAA's(mgs2, mgs:portable ops, mgs3 subsistence(i know mgs3 only scored an 8.7)) splintercell only has 1(pandora tomorrow) the rest in the series were mid AA, splintercell is a good series but mgs is a superiorone(not just going by review scores)
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#50 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="ApocalypseXIVV"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Eh, considering MGS4's budget I'd be really surprised if it didn't eventually wind up on the 360.BambooBanger

It cost what, like 30 million to develop? That means they have to sell half a million to break even. Historically though, they sell about 4-5 million. I think they'll be ok with their 270 million dollar profit.

thats not even close to how it works, u dont just go "ok 60 times X and thats the cost...the developmental costs, plus production, the pay for the people making the game, the share of the retail stores, sonys share...games arent 100% profit

do have a point to make? it's still going to sell enough.

The point is that Konami is a Company, and for companies enough ISN't enough.

Then they should make an ultra-low budget MGS4 version for the PS2 and Wii, and sell 50 million copies of the game.