Microsoft's vision for PC gaming.

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#51 Raymundo_Manuel
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I'm a little confused by the contents of that video.

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#52 Dogswithguns
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It's pretty much like Steam with avatars with XboxLive style.... what's gonna hurt?
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#53 Masculus
Member since 2009 • 2878 Posts

Jesus Christ, the guys designing this must have an extra cromossome.

Enable this on Facebook or some other crap, but they really should just kill GFWL and make the world a better place.

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#54 gamer-adam1
Member since 2008 • 4188 Posts

Why are people talking about "stay away from PC Microsoft!" I know ya'll aren't gaming on Linux.

Pray_to_me

didnt you know, they are all videogame devs

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#55 devious742
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[QUOTE="BedBugMan"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] yet your pretty much accepting a platform when it comes to steam...an all inclusive drm solution, download service..etc but thats not microsoft...gamer-adam1

I've never even used Steam... but from what I read I'll take Steam over XBL anyday.

people only care about steam for the sales, other than that, its nothing special at all

Keep thinking that:lol:

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#56 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="BedBugMan"] I've never even used Steam... but from what I read I'll take Steam over XBL anyday. devious742

people only care about steam for the sales, other than that, its nothing special at all

Keep thinking that:lol:

I use steam, its really nothing special

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#57 devious742
Member since 2003 • 3924 Posts

I use steam, its really nothing special

gamer-adam1

its better than GFWL thats for sure

PCGAMER.com

"Games for Windows Live is a ridiculous embarrassment for the platform. Developers: if you're using it in your upcoming game, you're not doing it right. Put it on Steam, or Impulse, or GamersGate, or sell it yourself online, or just stick it in a box. Preferably with a cloth map"

Even gamespot hates it...

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#58 clone01
Member since 2003 • 29844 Posts

You don't have to use it. I don't.

heretrix

I often think the TC believes that because a company wants to make money, its the automatic forced compliance of a consumer.

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#59 Locutus_Picard
Member since 2004 • 4166 Posts

[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

people only care about steam for the sales, other than that, its nothing special at all

gamer-adam1

Keep thinking that:lol:

I use steam, its really nothing special

Free-weekends, easy to download and install demo's, easy managing installing and uninstalling your games. Being able to use steam overlay and webbrowser, Steam CLOUD!!! Holiday Sales!!! Gifting games, receiving gifts, integrated voice chat and integrated buddy/friend system...I could go on for days about Steam.

Yeah...nothing special indeed. :roll:
GFWL doesn't even come close to the quality of just 1 feature I mentioned.

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#60 topgunmv
Member since 2003 • 10880 Posts

That's the beauty of an open platform. If it's crap, nobody will use it, and few games will support it.

A lot of games support "games for windows" which just lets you plug in a 360 controller and everything is automatically and intelligently mapped.

Not a lot of games support "games for windows live" which uses xbox live, and some of those that do have dropped support in their sequels (dawn of war games).

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#61 Giancar
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[QUOTE="devious742"]

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

people only care about steam for the sales, other than that, its nothing special at all

gamer-adam1

Keep thinking that:lol:

I use steam, its really nothing special

are you defending GFWL and saying Steam is nothing special :? why do you have that sig? you are not really a PC advocate :?
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#62 AntiType
Member since 2003 • 6249 Posts

I dont buy LIVE games. BioShock2? Skipped it. If I buy something on steam, it mean that I chose steam over MS's joke of a service. i dont want yet another gui layer in my game. AND YES it forces you to log in or you cannot save your game.

EA did similar things with dragon age and now I watch for it. I am sorry, but I dont want to log into 3 different account to play a bloody game.

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#63 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="devious742"]

Keep thinking that:lol:

Giancar

I use steam, its really nothing special

are you defending GFWL and saying Steam is nothing special :? why do you have that sig? you are not really a PC advocate :?

not defending anything, never mentioned GFWL, used it once, had zero problems, but steam is nothing special. its not. I use Steam and Impulse now, and I also might start using D2D seeing as everything I buy has a discount

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#64 DoomZaW
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Their last vision for pc gaming was capitalizing on online play... look how well that went :P

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#65 gamer-adam1
Member since 2008 • 4188 Posts

Their last vision for pc gaming was capitalizing on online play... look how well that went :P

DoomZaW

nope its social gaming, taking away content and putting it into facebook games or DLC, and thats winning

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#66 PandaBear86
Member since 2007 • 3389 Posts
[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Jesus Christ, the guys designing this must have an extra cromossome.

Enable this on Facebook or some other crap, but they really should just kill GFWL and make the world a better place.

I guess by "extra chromosome", you are referring to female gender. Males and females have the same amount of chromosomes, males have XY and females have XX :P
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#67 biggest_loser
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I wish life was that happy and simple!! :D
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#68 JohnF111
Member since 2010 • 14190 Posts

Since PC is an open platform and none of that crap is essential, why cry??

It isn't for you, ignore it.

heretrix
Yeah you're right.. I'll go play some DoW2.. Oh damn i require a Live account to play, i'll cry now.(I don't mind needing the actual account i just thought i'd point out an example of PC gaming platforms being essential similar to Steam),
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#69 skrat_01
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****ing hilarious, and a bit sad really. Microsoft has no idea, the GWFL shambles and Microsoft's complete failure of supporting themselves as relevant to PC gaming over the last decade enforces this. They have lost masses of potential profit out to Valve, all the other Digital distribution services, as well as social media sites like Facebook and cross-media, such as Apple's itunes. Which is what happens when you pigeon hole your game development focus from 2001 onwards. So no Microsoft, PC gaming is fine, and keep my Xbox 360 the **** out of my PC gaming. Especially those horrible, horrible Avatars. Ugh.
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#70 UnknownSniper65
Member since 2004 • 9238 Posts

I don't see how they could ever compete with steam

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#71 NaveedLife
Member since 2010 • 17179 Posts

I agree TC. I don't want any of their crap forced upon me lol. PC is my favorite for a reason that MS stands against :P.

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#72 imprezawrx500
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the best ms could do for pc gaming is put all their xbox games on pc from day one, we don't want an xbox emunlator. Time for steam to kill gfwl.
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#73 nutcrackr
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All I got from that video was "lets put micro transactions in everything"
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#74 topsemag55
Member since 2007 • 19063 Posts

Steam is built for PC gaming, were as Microsoft is trying to push the console model onto PC.

On evolves with PC, the other is trying to standardize/streamline it like a console.

AnnoyedDragon

Agreed. Microsoft should just stay with Direct-X and Windows.

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#75 Vesica_Prime
Member since 2009 • 7062 Posts

Microsoft's vision for the PC is the cancellation of games for it.

Get out, honestly.

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#76 MattDistillery
Member since 2010 • 969 Posts

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

Jesus Christ, the guys designing this must have an extra cromossome.

Enable this on Facebook or some other crap, but they really should just kill GFWL and make the world a better place.

PandaBear86

I guess by "extra chromosome", you are referring to female gender. Males and females have the same amount of chromosomes, males have XY and females have XX :P

Females and Males have the same number of Chromosones but a distinct diffrence in the last pair.

Having an extra(Specifically extra Number 21)chromosone causes the genetic dissorder Down's syndrome.

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#77 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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All I got from that video was "lets put micro transactions in everything" nutcrackr

yeah me too. their dream is to make some Farmville-style games for the masses where every click costs you money.

the demand for "hardcore games" will remain, but serving for casual crowd makes easier money so... i just wish someone will keep delivering for us too.

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#78 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]All I got from that video was "lets put micro transactions in everything" groowagon

yeah me too. their dream is to make some Farmville-style games for the masses where every click costs you money.

the demand for "hardcore games" will remain, but serving for casual crowd makes easier money so... i just wish someone will keep delivering for us too.

The problem is they have nothing to appeal to Zenga and other devs like it. Facebook is already providing those companies with stuff MS never could and audience MS could never deliver

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#79 mitu123
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I wonder where's the gaming part...

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#80 NVIDIATI
Member since 2010 • 8463 Posts

Anyone else disturbed by Microsoft's avatars? They have this cookie cutter, involuntarily happy, consumer drone look to them.

AnnoyedDragon

I like how you can view pictures of other people's avatars and you get the privilege to pay for your avatar's clothes (I can even see possibilities for accessories and designer labels).

In all seriousness that video was very disturbing, I can only hope the masses aren't that stupid to fund and support this garbage.

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#81 NeonNinja
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This is an internal video froma year ago that was never released for obvious reasons. I still fully expect people to over-react at this point in time though.

However, it's terrible. I want nothing of the sort on my PC. It's a terrible idea and I'm glad it has not seen the light of day.

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#82 gamer-adam1
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This is an internal video froma year ago that was never released for obvious reasons. I still fully expect people to over-react at this point in time though.

However, it's terrible. I want nothing of the sort on my PC. It's a terrible idea and I'm glad it has not seen the light of day.

NeonNinja

I think MS needs to stop having, Social gamers and kids, test out there products, they need to move away from avatars from none games,

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#83 PBSnipes
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We're burying the lede here. The real crime is that awful Lisztomania rip-off they used for the soundtrack.

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#84 dakan45
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/internal-microsoft-video-shows-plans-for-next-gen-gaming-experience/46176

Quite frankly I think the best Microsoft can do for PC, is to stay the hell away from it.

PC isn't a Xbox, we don't want to be anything like a Xbox, they can take their Xbox Live approach elsewhere.

AnnoyedDragon
This, stay away from pc. We dont need a nex-gen reboot of the idea "buy gears of war on pc long after the console release with paid windows live which is located in xbox live.com." Seriously stop. PC aint xbox.
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#85 i5750at4Ghz
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http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/internal-microsoft-video-shows-plans-for-next-gen-gaming-experience/46176

Quite frankly I think the best Microsoft can do for PC, is to stay the hell away from it.

PC isn't a Xbox, we don't want to be anything like a Xbox, they can take their Xbox Live approach elsewhere.

AnnoyedDragon
Speak for yourself. I like Live alot. If not for the fee and lack of games I would play on it alot more.
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#86 Dabunzie
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Yeah you're right.. I'll go play some DoW2.. Oh damn i require a Live account to play, i'll cry now.(I don't mind needing the actual account i just thought i'd point out an example of PC gaming platforms being essential similar to Steam),

FYI DoW2 dropped GFWL with retribution, they are now steam only.