Microsoft.....same old new mistakes?

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much money and time marketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much money and time marketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

megaton3k

and you cant say that they did a bad job with other exclusives because bioshock sold 400k in the first week :|

[QUOTE="megaton3k"]

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much money and time marketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

hobbit93

and you cant say that they did a bad job with other exclusives because bioshock sold 400k in the first week :|

bioshock isn't exclusive.

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much moneyand timemarketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

megaton3k

Stopped reading there,Too Human,Bioshock and Banjo 3 say your wrong.

[QUOTE="hobbit93"][QUOTE="megaton3k"]

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much money and time marketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

CaseyWegner

and you cant say that they did a bad job with other exclusives because bioshock sold 400k in the first week :|

bioshock isn't exclusive.

he does have a point but regardless, bioshock a great game sold well on the 360 and that all that matters, not if its exclusive or not

Shoudn't you be complaining about Sony for promising and not delivering?

[QUOTE="hobbit93"][QUOTE="megaton3k"]

Seems that Microsoft is doing a little of the same mistakes they still haven't learned from the original Xbox. Spending too much money and time marketing Halo rather than focusing on having some more diverse and exclusive franchises that you wont find on any other platform. The Playstation may have had a rough start, but you can be assured that it still has the most exclusive content you wont find on a PC or the 360. M$ built up Halo for the original xbox, was the most advanced at that time and still lost money and still couldn't sell any consoles in Japan,so it pulled the plug early and jumped next-gen. Seems like a similiar scenario is happening again...only difference is...they have hardware issues to deal with.

CaseyWegner

and you cant say that they did a bad job with other exclusives because bioshock sold 400k in the first week :|

bioshock isn't exclusive.

BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.excuseYOU

meh more shooters.

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"]BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.benjaminbuckner

meh more shooters.

Mass Effect? More of an RPG. How about Endwar?

Your not a fan of the xbox, we get it.loudharley

[QUOTE="benjaminbuckner"]

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"]BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.excuseYOU

meh more shooters.

Mass Effect? More of an RPG. How about Endwar?

mass effect may be an rpg but it has shooting for its combat.

Too Human? Mass Effect? Forza 2? PGR 4? Banjo Threeie? Fable 2? All 360 exclusives, and all published by MS. Then when you add in the various Console exclusives (meaningless in SW but significant in console sales) you get Bioshock, Alan Wake, C&C 3: Kane's Wrath, Splintercell: Conviction and a whole bunch of others. To say MS hasn't focused on games other than Halo is rediculous.

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"][QUOTE="benjaminbuckner"]

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"]BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.benjaminbuckner

meh more shooters.

Mass Effect? More of an RPG. How about Endwar?

mass effect may be an rpg but it has shooting for its combat.

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"][QUOTE="benjaminbuckner"]

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"]BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.benjaminbuckner

meh more shooters.

Mass Effect? More of an RPG. How about Endwar?

mass effect may be an rpg but it has shooting for its combat.

So does FFX-2. Guess that's a shooter as well. As does MGS and Splinter Cell...SHOOTERS!

Too Human(pc) Mass Effect(pc) Forza 2? PGR 4? Banjo Threeie Fable 2(pc) All 360 exclusives, and all published by MS. Then when you add in the various Console exclusives (meaningless in SW but significant in console sales) you get Bioshock, Alan Wake, C&C 3: Kane's Wrath, Splintercell: Conviction and a whole bunch of others. To say MS hasn't focused on games other than Halo is rediculous.

PBSnipes

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

[QUOTE="loudharley"]Your not a fan of the xbox, we get it.xXHackettXx

Microsoft doesn't make royalties from games made for the PC.

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"][QUOTE="benjaminbuckner"]

[QUOTE="excuseYOU"]BioShock. Mass Effect. Some of the new examples of franchises being pushed just as much if not more than Halo. Gears of War was MUCH more hyped and focused on (it seems like) than Halo 3.benjaminbuckner

meh more shooters.

Mass Effect? More of an RPG. How about Endwar?

mass effect may be an rpg but it has shooting for its combat.

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

NavigatorsGhost

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

NavigatorsGhost

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

myke2010

kotor one was much better than kotor 2 ... kotor 2 was like WTF... when the ebon hawk was destroyed i practicaly knew there wouldnt be anymore kotors

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

hobbit93

kotor one was much better than kotor 2 ... kotor 2 was like WTF... when the ebon hawk was destroyed i practicaly knew there wouldnt be anymore kotors

[QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

xXHackettXx

I didn't know that. I'm not big into following developers and what not. I would say a large part of the appeal of those games is that they are star wars related though.

[QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

hobbit93

kotor one was much better than kotor 2 ... kotor 2 was like WTF... when the ebon hawk was destroyed i practicaly knew there wouldnt be anymore kotors

[QUOTE="hobbit93"][QUOTE="myke2010"][QUOTE="NavigatorsGhost"]

Its kind of hard because they don't have a lot of established franchises like Sony does that they can fall back on. Sony has had franchises like MGS and Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo since the original PS. And franchises like Devil May Cry (although its no longer exclusive) since the PS2.

Microsoft has the next installment of Fable which it can use. But even though the series doesn't interest me, I can't believe they haven't started on KOTOR 3 considering how popular the first two were. Thats a big mistake in my opinion, they should just be throwing money at the developers of the first two.

myke2010

kotor one was much better than kotor 2 ... kotor 2 was like WTF... when the ebon hawk was destroyed i practicaly knew there wouldnt be anymore kotors

The ending, the light side one anyways, sucked so bad. There were so many unresolved plot holes and unanswered questions, it wasn't even funny. KOTOR 2 will be vastly inferior to its predecessor in my eyes.

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"][QUOTE="loudharley"]Your not a fan of the xbox, we get it.kryloc

Microsoft doesn't make royalties from games made for the PC.

[QUOTE="kryloc"]

[QUOTE="xXHackettXx"][QUOTE="loudharley"]Your not a fan of the xbox, we get it.gapboi954

Microsoft doesn't make royalties from games made for the PC.

uh....what?? I've never heard of Microsoft being paid to have games run on windows....Microsoft pays to have the Games for Windows logo upon the cases, but they don't get royalties:?