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#51  Edited By xxyetixx
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@ProtossRushX: and yet the list of Xbox games you listed interest me way more than the Sony ones ?

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#52 Guy_Brohski
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Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

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#53 deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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This dudes post are bland and unimaginable LOL. Nothing unique about anything you say, just the same ole garbage you post in your bad english, all day everyday. So when you speak about needed something new and exciting, we know you know what you are talking about cause you stick to the same dumb script over and over again.

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#54 avenger85
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Xbox has halo.... halo is a game everyone knows about. Even non gamers know what halo is. Sony may have a bunch of exclusives that are good but none of them stand out to my non gaming friends.

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#55 kvally
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I think you got that backwards. Sony needs an exclusive that stands out.

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#56 Pray_to_me
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Pretty much every Lemming in this thread is an alt account lol look at the post numbers. Real Lemmings are where they should be: too ashamed to admit they're Lemmings and pretending to be Hermits. After Project Scorpio flops and Microsoft discontinues the Xbox brand that's the only choice they'll have left lol!

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#57 jcrame10
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@sSubZerOo: ps4 has a lot of games you can't get on Xbox tho.

And Nintendo does has a lot of games but most of them are niche. And you could find a lot of them on 3ds- either a direct port of a wii or wii u game, or some sort of variation, like Kirby, donkey kong, Mario kart etc

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#58  Edited By svaubel
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I love how insecure cows are these days. Cant go five minutes without an Xbox bash thread. Kinda sad they obsess so much about something they supposedly dont even care about. All out of games pretending to be movies to play?

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#59 samfisher56
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@Guy_Brohski said:

Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

And Uncharted beats all of the MS 'exclusive' lineup combined.

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#60 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@samfisher56: Only an idiot or fanboy would say that, so which one are you?

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#61  Edited By deactivated-587acdd100f19
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I'm just hoping Scalebound delivers. I need my Xbox One to have games that I can't get on my PS4, and I need them to be good or I basically have zero reasons to bother playing it anymore.

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#62 joe_b1_kenobi
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Worst. Thread. Ever.

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#63 Dakur
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@samfisher56 said:
@Guy_Brohski said:

Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

And Uncharted beats all of the MS 'exclusive' lineup combined.

QFT

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#64  Edited By deactivated-587acdd100f19
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@dakur: Why are you such a Sony fanboy?

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#65 Dakur
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@Ghost_Dub said:

@dakur: Why are you such a Sony fanboy?

I'm a manticore and therefore truly impartial. It's my service to the community to own lems, the true anti-gamers.

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#66  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Ghost_Dub said:

@dakur: Why are you such a Sony fanboy?

I think you should refer to your sig when pondering that question.

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#67 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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So, no straight talk, just more shtick? Mkay... sorry for bothering.

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#68 Guy_Brohski
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@samfisher56: Lol, that's hilarious stuff.

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#69 SecretPolice
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X1/Win10 exclusive the competition ( if you can even call it that lol ) has nothing like it.

Yeah baby, yeah!! :D

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@sSubZerOo said:

Both the PS4 and XboxOne have lost their identity with most big games becoming multiplat and what few exclusives they have there are numerous alternatives on the pc platform.. This is the only gen of home consoles I truly feel like I am missing absolutely nothing by sticking solely to pc now it feels like. Nintendo from my eyes is the only system in which there are a few games with no real alternative on the pc, but I can get that through a inexpensive 2ds..

You are missing a ****-ton: Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Second Son, Ratchet & Clank, Until Dawn, Resogun, Journey, Persona 5, FFXV, The Last Guardian, The Witness, God of War, Horizon: Zero Dawn, The Last of Us 2, and Death Stranding.

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#71 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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New IP's don't sell on Xbox, Spencer already said as much. Xbox fans love shooter and racers, that's it.

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@skektek said:

You are missing a ****-ton: Bloodborne, Uncharted 4, Second Son, Ratchet & Clank, Until Dawn, Resogun, Journey, Persona 5, FFXV, The Last Guardian, The Witness, God of War, Horizon: Zero Dawn, The Last of Us 2, and Death Stranding.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/can-we-agree-that-uncharted-4s-gameplay-was-medioc-33376176/#59

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#73  Edited By Sam3231
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@Guy_Brohski said:

Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

My thoughts exactly. Pretty much why I got Xone.

And Uncharted gets spanked by Gears any day. Even Tomb Raider does "uncharted" better than uncharted does.

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Horizon Zero best looking game period?

lol

Man being a fanboy must just be bliss. You can be completely ignorant of the world around you and still think you're right while everybody on your "team" cheers you.

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#75 clone01
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@Wasdie said:

Horizon Zero best looking game period?

lol

Man being a fanboy must just be bliss. You can be completely ignorant of the world around you and still think you're right while everybody on your "team" cheers you.

It put Trump in the White House.

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@samfisher56 said:
@Guy_Brohski said:

Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

And Uncharted beats all of the MS 'exclusive' lineup combined.

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#77 kvally
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@samfisher56 said:
@Guy_Brohski said:

Forza beats Gran Turismo

Halo beats Killzone

Gears has no equivalent on PlayStation so Gears wins by default there.

Wow, Horizon Zero has good graphics, whoopie. Sony's exclusives are basically one play through experiences, then they go back on the shelf forever. MS/Win 10 exclusives are played for years because of the solid MP. But sure, robo dinos being hunted by cave girl might be a decent game.. Lol.

And Uncharted beats all of the MS 'exclusive' lineup combined.

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@ProtossRushX: WTF are you talking about? Batman is my favorite super hero, Horizon is an interesting concept but I don't give a **** about its graphics. Really? You'll hype that because of graphics? LOL Days Gone doesn't look fresh or new, that's sony cream in your eyes; VR exclusives? Really? LMAO

While I agree Xbox needs some new pop, it isn't as bad as you make it out to be, because Sony STILL has no first party FPS to even challenge Halo, no racing game that comes close to either Forza for a long time. GT? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that shit has been second class for a Looong time pal. Drive Club? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I know this is a weird thing for cows, but some of us like being social while playing games. So what exactly am I going to play and laugh and build and compete with other people on PS like Sea of Thieves?

And if you're going to go hyping games just because of graphics, then Holiday 2017, every multiplat can be instantly better on Xbox. Why would I settle for Poo?

NO they don't but they have a 3rd person shooter that pass it,and is not like Halo need challenge at all,it is a good game not great any more,a mid low 80's games from the ton out there..Hahahaa Even lower rated now that Resistance which you lemmings loved to hate..hahahaa

GT6 is higher rated than Forza 5 and both came the same year 2013..hahahahaa

When another GT lands compare it to that year Forza chapter...lol

By the way Forza is the COD of racers thanks to MS milking and its scores are all over the place is not a 90 solid series any more.

Not to mention that ND has 2 consecutive 90+ releases in 2 different seriers while Halo,gears and forza all are a shadow of what they use to be.

That lats part is funny coming from a diehard lemming who hasn't care for graphics for 3+ years,i can wait for scorpio so i can start quoting you people on how graphics don't matter..lol

Reality is..

4 Forza games since 2013 without counting this year,2 Halo games without counting Halo wars,2 Gears games i think he has a point MS need something new that stand out fast,graphics will not sell scorpio.

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@tormentos: What good are any of those games to what I mentioned? Like I said, some of us like to socialize and play games. You never do and we've reached out to you multiple times. Can't take you seriously at all.

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#80 deactivated-59d151f079814
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@jcrame10 said:

@sSubZerOo: ps4 has a lot of games you can't get on Xbox tho.

And Nintendo does has a lot of games but most of them are niche. And you could find a lot of them on 3ds- either a direct port of a wii or wii u game, or some sort of variation, like Kirby, donkey kong, Mario kart etc

The thing is 10 years back there were certain genres or franchises I never saw on the pc, now I am seeing them all come on the pc.. And what franchises that don't make it on the pc there are a assortment of great alternatives within the genre.

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#81  Edited By kvally
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@tormentos said:
@cainetao11 said:

@ProtossRushX: WTF are you talking about? Batman is my favorite super hero, Horizon is an interesting concept but I don't give a **** about its graphics. Really? You'll hype that because of graphics? LOL Days Gone doesn't look fresh or new, that's sony cream in your eyes; VR exclusives? Really? LMAO

While I agree Xbox needs some new pop, it isn't as bad as you make it out to be, because Sony STILL has no first party FPS to even challenge Halo, no racing game that comes close to either Forza for a long time. GT? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that shit has been second class for a Looong time pal. Drive Club? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I know this is a weird thing for cows, but some of us like being social while playing games. So what exactly am I going to play and laugh and build and compete with other people on PS like Sea of Thieves?

And if you're going to go hyping games just because of graphics, then Holiday 2017, every multiplat can be instantly better on Xbox. Why would I settle for Poo?

GT6 is higher rated than Forza 5 and both came the same year 2013..hahahahaa

When another GT lands compare it to that year Forza chapter...lol

By the way Forza is the COD of racers thanks to MS milking and its scores are all over the place is not a 90 solid series any more.

Not to mention that ND has 2 consecutive 90+ releases in 2 different seriers while Halo,gears and forza all are a shadow of what they use to be.

That lats part is funny coming from a diehard lemming who hasn't care for graphics for 3+ years,i can wait for scorpio so i can start quoting you people on how graphics don't matter..lol

Reality is..

4 Forza games since 2013 without counting this year,2 Halo games without counting Halo wars,2 Gears games i think he has a point MS need something new that stand out fast,graphics will not sell scorpio.

Let's take a look at the LATEST releases from each platform:

PlayStation:

GT6 received an 81

DriveClub received a 71

Xbox:

Forza 6 recevied an 87

Forza Horizon 3 received a 91

If you think Forza is the COD or milking, what do you think of these:

  • Gran Turismo
  • Gran Turismo 2
  • Gran Turismo Concept: 2001 Tokyo Tokyo
  • Gran Turismo Concept: 2002 Tokyo Seoul
  • Gran Turismo Concept: 2002 Tokyo Geneva
  • Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec
  • Gran Turismo 4 Prologue
  • Gran Turismo 4
  • Gran Turismo HD
  • Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
  • Gran Turismo 5
  • Gran Turismo 6
  • Gran Turismo Sport
  • Gran Turismo (PSP)

Hey @SecretPolice do you have some extra jugs to contain all that milk???

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#82 cainetao11
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@kvally: Lol don't bother with him. My main point to the TC was don't tell me who my favorite superhero is, and I like playing games and socializing with people. I do it on both console network. This kind of thing doesn't apply to him so I can't take a reply from him seriously.

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#83 kvally
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@cainetao11 said:

@kvally: Lol don't bother with him. My main point to the TC was don't tell me who my favorite superhero is, and I like playing games and socializing with people. I do it on both console network. This kind of thing doesn't apply to him so I can't take a reply from him seriously.

Understood. I just find it odd that debates even happen with him, considering he doesn't own any of the latest gen consoles.

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#84  Edited By Blazed
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@cainetao11 said:

@tormentos: What good are any of those games to what I mentioned? Like I said, some of us like to socialize and play games. You never do and we've reached out to you multiple times. Can't take you seriously at all.

Many of those experiences I can get on Ps4. While Sony has experiences you can't anywhere else. The X1 currently has NO competitive fighter that touches Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator and Street Fighter V. Series like Gears are no longer orginal and have been done to death. Games like Sea of Theives are kool but we need more of it. Overal Sony has more roundedd library The X1 is lackluster in comparison.

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#85 BIack_Goku
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I don't see why people gave ProtossRushX so much shit for this thread when he's right. Microsoft is in need of a new IP that's capable of starting a franchise on the level of Halo and Gears.

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Scalebound looks pretty good.

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@Blazed said:
@cainetao11 said:

@tormentos: What good are any of those games to what I mentioned? Like I said, some of us like to socialize and play games. You never do and we've reached out to you multiple times. Can't take you seriously at all.

Many of those experiences I can get on Ps4. While Sony has experiences you can't anywhere else. The X1 currently has NO competitive fighter that touches Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator and Street Fighter V. Series like Gears are no longer orginal and have been done to death. Games like Sea of Theives are kool but we need more of it. Overal Sony has more roundedd library The X1 is lackluster in comparison.

To each their own. I don't play fighting games, but according to Metacritic the latest season of KI out scored SF5. Somebody likes it.

Uncharted 4 was nothing original either. It was a one and done for me. I had no incentive to go back to it. I mean, the gameplay isn't so great that I am going to see if Rafe is going to beat me again. If it wasn't for Survival mode, I would've never touched it again. Which brings me to Horde 3.0 and MP. Gears is just a more challenging experience in these realms. I don't really play racers either, but FH has me covered better than anything PS offers. Halo is still my go to game. Warzone and warzone firefight are among the best MP shooting experiences available. PS4 has games I can play on X1 to compete with it. KZSF? LOL

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#88 Heil68
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Indeed, after Halo, not much else left as true exclusive and even it will probably go to PC.

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#89  Edited By Blazed
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@cainetao11 said:
@Blazed said:
@cainetao11 said:

@tormentos: What good are any of those games to what I mentioned? Like I said, some of us like to socialize and play games. You never do and we've reached out to you multiple times. Can't take you seriously at all.

Many of those experiences I can get on Ps4. While Sony has experiences you can't anywhere else. The X1 currently has NO competitive fighter that touches Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator and Street Fighter V. Series like Gears are no longer orginal and have been done to death. Games like Sea of Theives are kool but we need more of it. Overal Sony has more roundedd library The X1 is lackluster in comparison.

To each their own. I don't play fighting games, but according to Metacritic the latest season of KI out scored SF5. Somebody likes it.

Uncharted 4 was nothing original either. It was a one and done for me. I had no incentive to go back to it. I mean, the gameplay isn't so great that I am going to see if Rafe is going to beat me again. If it wasn't for Survival mode, I would've never touched it again. Which brings me to Horde 3.0 and MP. Gears is just a more challenging experience in these realms. I don't really play racers either, but FH has me covered better than anything PS offers. Halo is still my go to game. Warzone and warzone firefight are among the best MP shooting experiences available. PS4 has games I can play on X1 to compete with it. KZSF? LOL

Too bad SFV is GOTY and is highly respected among the fighting community. Like I mentioned The X1 has no real competitive fighters. It's funny how people hype KI but then bash Uncharted 4. Sounds to me like double standards.

Actually Uncharted 4 innovated in ways people don't realise. ND obsession with minor detail created an experience you can't anywhere else and It made gunfights super intense. The fact you care about the characters make it even better.

Gears of War didn't invent Horde Mode. You should play more games. Uncharted 4 Survivor mode was more challengingin than 98% shooters I played last year including DOOM. You won't see many gamers 3 star Crushing difficulty let alonr Expert The only real issue with GT is sound wich is now being handled by Drive Club devs. I wouldn't count out GT just yet it has better handling than Forza wich is now more arcadey than sim. So yea it should be an overall great experience this time around. Halo and Gears didn't do much to keep things fresh. What's funny is when you put Halo 4 and 5 side by side there is almost no difference. LOL

When it's all said and done Sonys library is more appealing to a world wide audience. The X1 caters to small demographic. Sure it has some unique experiences here and there but Sony has it on lock.

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#90 trollhunter2
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They need exclusives period. They have almost all Rare IPS apart from Donkey Kong centered characters. You'd think they would do something with it right? *sigh*

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#91  Edited By cainetao11
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@Blazed: Too bad SFV is GOTY and is highly respected among the fighting community. Like I mentioned The X1 has no real competitive fighters. It's funny how people hype KI but then bash Uncharted 4. Sounds to me like double standards

But I didn't hype KI. I merely pointed out a mathematical fact on Metacritic. I will repeat myself, I DO NOT PLAY FIGHTING GAMES. Don't see how that is me hyping it. And where did SF5 beat Overwatch for GOTY?

Actually Uncharted 4 innovated in ways people don't realise. ND obsession with minor detail created an experience you can't anywhere else and It made gunfights super intense. The fact you care about the characters make it even better.

But ND gave players the option to avoid firefights more in U4. More intense? That's completely subjective because they weren't for me. Tagging enemies kinda made things easier than any other Uncharted before imo. So please enlighten the rest of us as to all this "innovation" in Uncharted 4.

When did I say Gears created Horde mode? You're pseudo accusing me of false hoods now. You wont see anybody survive Horde 3.0 for 50 levels with 3 players, period. You feel Survival is the best or hardest and I wont argue that with you. Your feelings are your own. Who am I to say you don't feel that way. I know for my money and time, Horde 3.0 is the more fun challenging, strategic version of this co op.

GT can get a 10/10 next time out for all I care. Forza has dumped on it for quite a few years now. Its going to take more than one good game for GT to become the better racing series again.

Libraries and world wide audience means Jack and shyte to me. "I am like everyone else!! Yayyy!!" LMAO The world doesn't pay for my gaming hobby and I don't play with the world's preferences. I play by my own.

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They need exclusives period. They have almost all Rare IPS apart from Donkey Kong centered characters. You'd think they would do something with it right? *sigh*

Yeah because having Rare build some new IP is teh bad.

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@Blazed: Too bad SFV is GOTY and is highly respected among the fighting community. Like I mentioned The X1 has no real competitive fighters. It's funny how people hype KI but then bash Uncharted 4. Sounds to me like double standards

But I didn't hype KI. I merely pointed out a mathematical fact on Metacritic. I will repeat myself, I DO NOT PLAY FIGHTING GAMES. Don't see how that is me hyping it. And where did SF5 beat Overwatch for GOTY?

Actually Uncharted 4 innovated in ways people don't realise. ND obsession with minor detail created an experience you can't anywhere else and It made gunfights super intense. The fact you care about the characters make it even better.

But ND gave players the option to avoid firefights more in U4. More intense? That's completely subjective because they weren't for me. Tagging enemies kinda made things easier than any other Uncharted before imo. So please enlighten the rest of us as to all this "innovation" in Uncharted 4.

When did I say Gears created Horde mode? You're pseudo accusing me of false hoods now. You wont see anybody survive Horde 3.0 for 50 levels with 3 players, period. You feel Survival is the best or hardest and I wont argue that with you. Your feelings are your own. Who am I to say you don't feel that way. I know for my money and time, Horde 3.0 is the more fun challenging, strategic version of this co op.

GT can get a 10/10 next time out for all I care. Forza has dumped on it for quite a few years now. Its going to take more than one good game for GT to become the better racing series again.

Libraries and world wide audience means Jack and shyte to me. "I am like everyone else!! Yayyy!!" LMAO The world doesn't pay for my gaming hobby and I don't play with the world's preferences. I play by my own.

You pointed out Metacritic wich is hyping KI. Also Street Fighter V beat KI for GOTY.

I ilterally explained myself in the post you quoted lol. "ND obssesion with minor detail created an experience you can't get anywhere else". Just overall how the game blends together has never been done before. They set new standards in the gaming industry you'll probably never see untill TLOU 2.

I'm man enough to admitt I miss read that part of your post. Haven't seen anyon 3 star Survival mode on Crushing let alone Expert. . The game is no slouch that's for sure.

Not really. GT is solid series. It just had minor issues that really held it back. Compared to GT Forza is casual racer. There are Pro raceres who started from GT.

Just sayin Sony caters to bigger audience wich is why more people buy there console. Sony is nown to take losses for new IP's or sequels because they know it's important to lthe game ibrary and fanbase.. When was the last time MS had a sequel to a failed new IP?

Things like Microsoft cancelling Scalebound is the reason I don' game on Xbox. They don't take L's like Sony for the fanbase. and they have a lot more money to do so. By the the way things are going you would think Sony has money than MS. This is why Sony is more respected in the community. Also if you don't like Halo Gears or Forza the X1 doesnt have much outside those franchises. They haven't had a new heavty hitter since Gears. Lemming are happy playing the same old games year after year that are mostly copy and paste jobs Atleast in Uncharted 4 has EVERYTHING new or updated and it feels fresh..

Overall Sony has a better understanding of what gamers wan't wich is why people gravitate to their console.. Sony is far from perfect but they do good where it counts.