Midway Files For Bankrputcy

Word of mouth and a lot of amazing internet videos for STALKER. Brand name for the Orange Box. Marketing, marketing, marketing.Vanadium2k8

things like this happened all the time in even greater quantities before this gen, think about all the devs that whent bust pre-HD and pre you precious Wii, should they have switched to the wii too?.

You need a little history lesson. This gen has been pretty stable, if you think back to the early nineties games were made for a few thousand pounds in some guys shed and guys still went bust every other day, the industry was very fluid pre PS2 and will remain so to an extent,

HD is no great factor as history has shown, companies can go bust on their own without it. Infact we have seen very few companies turn the lights off for good compared to just a decade ago.

Serves 'em right for releasing that abysmal sequel to the Suffering.Pariah_001

[QUOTE="habkeinbock"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

*Sigh*... Why do Ghost of onyx and Zhengi just end up shouting "We hate HD" in every single thread, its just you two that seem to hate HD. Over and over again ive seen you two posting the same things "HD is killing gaming, they should all switch to the Wii/DS"

Does the improvement in image quality offend you? Do high production values make you vomit? Does looking at HDR, listening to high quality sound make you feel ill?

Has the last year utter drought in Wii games shown you nothing?have we not seem how limiting the little white box really is in the past six months? Developer after developer has gone on the record to say they find it too restrictive, now instead of just pointing the finger at HD every time a dev goes out of buisness you should listen what the sucessful developers of good games are actually saying, it it aint pretty towards the wii.

Sure HD is expensive, but play your cars right and you can turn a big proffit, surely even you must admit that little new is possible on the wii that wasn't done last gen. without the HD you hate so much could we have games of the scope of Fallout 3? or STALKER?

thegoldenpoo

in those 6 month 2 developer died by producing on HD consoles instead on the wii :P

1. your hate is too big for a normal discussion !

2. as YOU can see YOU are the one constantly pointing fingers at others ;)

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"] Word of mouth and a lot of amazing internet videos for STALKER. Brand name for the Orange Box. Marketing, marketing, marketing.thegoldenpoo

things like this happened all the time in even greater quantities before this gen, think about all the devs that whent bust pre-HD and pre you precious Wii, should they have switched to the wii too?.

You need a little history lesson. This gen has been pretty stable, if you think back to the early nineties games were made for a few thousand pounds in some guys shed and guys still went bust every other day, the industry was very fluid pre PS2 and will remain so to an extent,

HD is no great factor as history has shown, companies can go bust on their own without it. Infact we have seen very few companies turn the lights off for good compared to just a decade ago.

HD gaming is killing the industry.nintendoman562

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]HD gaming is killing the industry.thegoldenpoo

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="nintendoman562"]HD gaming is killing the industry.Vanadium2k8

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]HD gaming is killing the industry.thegoldenpoo

**Waits for HD gaming is killing the industry comment from sheep** Sad news :(thegoldenpoo

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"] And im taking this from a guy with "Nintendo" in his name. does anyone else smell jealous fanboyism? HD has been around since before this gen, its a name for anything above 720p. games like Wolfenstein ET and Doom3 where HD. just because something dosen't have the rendering power of a lemon dosen't mean it has to be "killing gaming". What a stupid blanket statement to make. thegoldenpoo

[QUOTE="nintendoman562"]HD gaming is killing the industry.thegoldenpoo

HD gaming is killing the industry.:shock:

i have no ava and my name have nothing too do with nintendo ! better ?

produce high res textures cost more time = cost more money

use more complex physics cost more time = cost more money

create more complex models cost more time = cost more money

now combine that with developer going under course they went out of money :shock:

[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="Giancar"] How much did the last MK game sold on the wii? Not much I assure you.

Midway simply put was one of the worst developers out there, and they finally hit the bottom.

A lot of other developers are still working with "HD" ( which is more graphics, physiscs, sound, AI and some other things)

DR2 just got recently announced, and that game will do awesome. I'll guarantee that

Giancar

The thing with developing for the Wii is that the costs are lower. Even if a game bombs, it will not put a company out of business. Look at MK vs DC. That's Midway's biggest game of the holiday season and it was a relative success with 2 million shipped, and they're still filing for bankruptcy. So what is supposed to be a success causes a company to go into bankruptcy? How does that work?

As for Capcom, they're different from Midway because they have done what I said. They have diversifed their game projects. They're not only concentrating on the HD consoles, but they are also putting quality games like Monster Hunter on the Wii and PSP, Mega Man and Phoenix Wright on the DS, Spyborgs on the Wii, and a host of other games for other systems. See the difference?

What about EA? Their games in Mirror's Edge and Dead Space flopped badly in sales, and EA is closing down studios. In fact, even last gen, there weren't as many devs closing studios as there are this gen. Costs have skyrocketed and many are losing money. Even Activision Blizzard, the one dev that is doing the best in the US, lost money, but this is mostly due to accounting methods. It's just a dangerous time right now in this economic environment.

And I don't understand how Capcom putting DR:CTYD on the Wii negates anything I wrote about. They have diversified their game projects on other systems and are doing great. Nothing you said has really disputed that. I'm not saying stop making games on the HD platforms. So really, what are you trying to argue?

*Sigh*... Why do Ghost of onyx and Zhengi just end up shouting "We hate HD" in every single thread, its just you two that seem to hate HD. Over and over again ive seen you two posting the same things "HD is killing gaming, they should all switch to the Wii/DS"

Does the improvement in image quality offend you? Do high production values make you vomit? Does looking at HDR, listening to high quality sound make you feel ill?

Has the last year utter drought in Wii games shown you nothing? have we not seem how limiting the little white box really is in the past six months? Developer after developer has gone on the record to say they find it too restrictive, now instead of just pointing the finger at HD every time a dev goes out of buisness you should listen what the sucessful developers of good games are actually saying, it it aint pretty towards the wii.

Sure HD is expensive, but play your cars right and you can turn a big proffit, surely even you must admit that little new is possible on the wii that wasn't done last gen. without the HD you hate so much could we have games of the scope of Fallout 3? or STALKER?

thegoldenpoo

How am I hating on HD? Where did I say, "I hate HD"? Maybe if you would actually consider what I'm saying rather than think I am attacking HD, you would understand my point. I'm not saying, "Don't make games for HD consoles." I'm saying, "Diversify your game projects." I don't know why people you like get upset about this. I'm not saying what you think I'm saying. I'll tell you what makes me vomit. Seeing all these devs laying off people and closing down studios. So stop and actually read and comprehend what I'm trying to say.

Last thing, exactly which developers are you talking about that have made a profit? It can't be EA who has had losses for the last 9 consecutive quarters. It can't be Midway, THQ, or Sony since they are posting losses. Which ones exactly are you talking about that have profited? This is not to say there aren't any, but there are definitely fewer companies that have made profit.

I love how people are moaning about the inevitable sheep coming in and arguing "HD gaming is killing the industry and the industry needs more balance", yet the "sheep" have the most logical, thought out and solid reasoning out of anyone talking about the issue. I find it funny.

Anyway, this is sad for Midway but this has been happening so much, it was expected. I should just make a sig for whenever I enter one of these threads.

It's not about what you have made recently it's about what you could have potentially made. The developer with the worst track record could shut down, but that isn't a good thing, because their next game might have been the best thing out in the year. You never know, but now you really won't EVER know.

Bye Midway.

make one bad game this gen, and your screwedps3_owns_360Wii