Miyamoto "I could Make Halo"

"One thing about my game design is that I never try to look for what people want and then try to make that game design."

 He should probably try changing that.

Anyone who thought that statement was arrogant is a moron. For one, he was stating his philosophy on game design and used Halo mearly as the example of what American kids want.

Two, Miyamoto is known as one of the most humble game designers, this statement remains consistent with that.

Three, even if he wasn't humble, He's Miyamoto! The entire Bungie team doesn't even begin to compare to what this one man accomplished.

TacoJelly

If you include last gen alone, they destroyed every game he made so I think so. Not fair to say since it was thier first gen working strictly for consoles.

What has he achieved. make a few IP's 20 years ago, sequel sequel rehash sequel repeat with 20 more sequels?

[QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Anyone who thought that statement was arrogant is a moron. For one, he was stating his philosophy on game design and used Halo mearly as the example of what American kids want.

Two, Miyamoto is known as one of the most humble game designers, this statement remains consistent with that.

Three, even if he wasn't humble, He's Miyamoto! The entire Bungie team doesn't even begin to compare to what this one man accomplished.

DoctorBunny

If you include last gen alone, they destroyed every game he made so I think so. Not fair to say since it was thier first gen working strictly for consoles.

What has he achieved. make a few IP's 20 years ago, sequel sequel rehash sequel repeat with 20 more sequels?

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="useLOGIC"]i would absolutely LOVE to see miyamotos take on a dark gritty genre. i might even buy a wii just for it.6icks_tea_4hoar

Nintendo bought N-Space to make Geist. Miyamoto had no part of that game.

o rly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto

Hahaha.... Way to selfown genius.  Look at the colums.  Director, producer, designer.   Producers rerely have a personal touch in the game created.  It's the director and to a greater extent the designer.  As you can see in Geist he was just the producer and not the director or designer.  He signed the checks.  Hahaha....  Selfownage at it's greatest. 

[QUOTE="6icks_tea_4hoar"][QUOTE="cecx"].

Bungie's Response: "We could make a mediocre stealth game with a terrible camera and teh MeLtING iC3 CUbES!, but we choose not to." :P

Big_T-Mac

atleast gives the 360 the jak series.

[QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Anyone who thought that statement was arrogant is a moron. For one, he was stating his philosophy on game design and used Halo mearly as the example of what American kids want.

Two, Miyamoto is known as one of the most humble game designers, this statement remains consistent with that.

Three, even if he wasn't humble, He's Miyamoto! The entire Bungie team doesn't even begin to compare to what this one man accomplished.

tman93

If you include last gen alone, they destroyed every game he made so I think so. Not fair to say since it was thier first gen working strictly for consoles.

What has he achieved. make a few IP's 20 years ago, sequel sequel rehash sequel repeat with 20 more sequels?

mario sold more than halo last gen? link? cant find one, thought so. Nice try. also last time i checked, oot was for the n64, not gamecube. And it isnt better imo. Beat it once, never touched it again. halo i've played through about 100 times along with every gamer i know. 

What stupid statment.

I can't believe what he's saying I mean what a complete retard!

HALO?

He could've made CounterStrike or dare I say beyond if he tried. :) 

Hahaha.... Way to selfown genius. Look at the colums. Director, producer, designer. Producers rerely have a personal touch in the game created. It's the director and to a greater extent the designer. As you can see in Geist he was just the producer and not the director or designer. He signed the checks. Hahaha.... Selfownage at it's greatest. Ichiroisawsome

"One thing about my game design is that I never try to look for what people want and then try to make that game design."

He should probably try changing that.

 

Gamer556

You do realize that he speaks very little English and a lot of his statements are taken out of context.  What he probably was talking about in terms of "people" was infact not game players.  For instance the idea for Pikmin was no well recieved by then the President of Nintendo Hiroshi Yamauchi.  Miyamoto didn't care what Yamauchi thought and went ahead and produced Pikmin.  Even though Pikmin was his idea the lead designer of Pikmin was Shigefumi Hino and some other guy but I forgot his name.  

[QUOTE="Big_T-Mac"][QUOTE="6icks_tea_4hoar"][QUOTE="cecx"].

Bungie's Response: "We could make a mediocre stealth game with a terrible camera and teh MeLtING iC3 CUbES!, but we choose not to." :P

6icks_tea_4hoar

atleast gives the 360 the jak series.

[QUOTE="tman93"][QUOTE="DoctorBunny"][QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Anyone who thought that statement was arrogant is a moron. For one, he was stating his philosophy on game design and used Halo mearly as the example of what American kids want.

Two, Miyamoto is known as one of the most humble game designers, this statement remains consistent with that.

Three, even if he wasn't humble, He's Miyamoto! The entire Bungie team doesn't even begin to compare to what this one man accomplished.

DoctorBunny

If you include last gen alone, they destroyed every game he made so I think so. Not fair to say since it was thier first gen working strictly for consoles.

What has he achieved. make a few IP's 20 years ago, sequel sequel rehash sequel repeat with 20 more sequels?

mario sold more than halo last gen? link? cant find one, thought so. Nice try. also last time i checked, oot was for the n64, not gamecube. And it isnt better imo. Beat it once, never touched it again. halo i've played through about 100 times along with every gamer i know.

He created Nintendogs the system seller for the DS which has sold over 6 million copies.

And New Super Mario Bros. DID outsell Halo 2.

"As of April 26, 2007, New Super Mario Bros. has sold 9.5 million copies worldwide,[24][25] making it the second best-selling DS game."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Super_Mario_Bros.#Reception

"it also reported that 9.2 million units of Halo 2 have been sold worldwide"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_2#Reception

And as for Halo being played through 100 times, how do you explain people still pulling their old NES out and playing the game with SMB taking the top spot in EVERY top 100 games countdown? 

You=Owned :)

[QUOTE="TacoJelly"]

Anyone who thought that statement was arrogant is a moron. For one, he was stating his philosophy on game design and used Halo mearly as the example of what American kids want.

Two, Miyamoto is known as one of the most humble game designers, this statement remains consistent with that.

Three, even if he wasn't humble, He's Miyamoto! The entire Bungie team doesn't even begin to compare to what this one man accomplished.

DoctorBunny

If you include last gen alone, they destroyed every game he made so I think so. Not fair to say since it was thier first gen working strictly for consoles.

What has he achieved. make a few IP's 20 years ago, sequel sequel rehash sequel repeat with 20 more sequels?

Last gen alone, I still think Miyamoto accomplished much more than bungie.  Halo was only successful because it was the right game at the right time.  It's an FPS that does nothing new, and if you ask me (as well as members of the gaming press that don't have their head in their ***), was repetitive (and in the case of the sequal) unbalanced and broken. 

Also, halo only appealed to Western males.  Every game Miyamoto specifically had a hand in the creation of (not counting things that he only "advised" so Nintendo could sell a few more copies) appeals to people of all ages around the world... Name one designer or artist that has that same ability in their given field.  Look up the numbers to compare Halo worldwide sales to Miyamotos average.

 And even when they make a sequal to Miyamoto games, they put in the effort to make significant changes to the design.

He created Nintendogs the system seller for the DS which has sold over 6 million copies.

And New Super Mario Bros. DID outsell Halo 2.

"As of April 26, 2007, New Super Mario Bros. has sold 9.5 million copies worldwide,[24][25] making it the second best-selling DS game."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Super_Mario_Bros.#Reception

"it also reported that 9.2 million units of Halo 2 have been sold worldwide"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_2#Reception

And as for Halo being played through 100 times, how do you explain people still pulling their old NES out and playing the game with SMB taking the top spot in EVERY top 100 games countdown?

You=Owned :)

On a handheld no less. 

We wouldn't have to resort to such bickering either if people took the time to actually THINK about what was said in the interview.  Jesus, the interviewer through Halo out there not Miyamoto.  If he said Madden, the quote would've been the same.

What stupid statment.

I can't believe what he's saying I mean what a complete retard!

HALO?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could've made CounterStrike or dare I say beyond if he tried. :)

Dencore

Why don't you actually read the article.  He did not say he can make Halo specifically.  Nor did he say he could make it better.  He was using Halo as an example of the genre.  He could make a FPS style M rated game if he wanted to.  You also have to realize the most of Miyamoto interviews are in Japanese because he speaks very little english.  A lot of what he says is horribly translated and taken out of context.  

[QUOTE="Dencore"]

What stupid statment.

I can't believe what he's saying I mean what a complete retard!

HALO?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could've made CounterStrike or dare I say beyond if he tried. :)

Ichiroisawsome

Why don't you actually read the article. He did not say he can make Halo specifically. Nor did he say he could make it better. He was using Halo as an example of the genre. He could make a FPS style M rated game if he wanted to. You also have to realize the most of Miyamoto interviews are in Japanese because he speaks very little english. A lot of what he says is horribly translated and taken out of context.

he was joking. CounterStrike was a better game.  

[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Geist was AWFUL!  Amazing he was senior producer of an M-rated title.  I don't think it sold well at all either :?tman93

Filp flopping much? I guess thats what fanboys do.

I guess you missed my post WHERE I ADMITTED I WAS OWNED!!!

[QUOTE="6icks_tea_4hoar"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]

[QUOTE="useLOGIC"]i would absolutely LOVE to see miyamotos take on a dark gritty genre. i might even buy a wii just for it.AvIdGaMeR444

Nintendo bought N-Space to make Geist. Miyamoto had no part of that game.

o rly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto

I've been MiyamotOWNED!  :cry:

I was wrong about Geist

[QUOTE="Ichiroisawsome"][QUOTE="Dencore"]

What stupid statment.

I can't believe what he's saying I mean what a complete retard!

HALO?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could've made CounterStrike or dare I say beyond if he tried. :)

TacoJelly

Why don't you actually read the article. He did not say he can make Halo specifically. Nor did he say he could make it better. He was using Halo as an example of the genre. He could make a FPS style M rated game if he wanted to. You also have to realize the most of Miyamoto interviews are in Japanese because he speaks very little english. A lot of what he says is horribly translated and taken out of context.

he was joking. CounterStrike is a better game.

Fixed. :)

I'd say he needs to realize that all games are different and just because he rehashes mario 8 times per console, doesn't make him god.SkyRaid

Tell me, how many 3-D MAIN mario game have there been on the previous consoles. Let's see, one on N64, one on GC (Excluding Luigi Mansion) And so far, one on wii. Seems to me that he hasn't been rehashing the 3-D transition of the series that much has he...

You obviously don't know Miyamoto, I read the link and what he basically said was he as a game designer could make a game that has little innovation but isa perfected version of something that everyone already likes (Halo), but he prefers to imagine and create new experiences.  That's not arrogance, that's his philosophy on games, keep it fresh instead of rehashing and perfecting the same formula.camzaman

thats what i got from it, he just basically said he could make it if he wanted to, but he wanted change, innovation, not the same old crap ahem **cough** halo3 cough***

yeah i'm sure he couldn't make a generic FPS....

yeah i'm sure he couldn't make a generic FPS....

VideoGameGuy

Miyamoto could make Halo but since the wii can't handle Xbox 1 graphics and I'm pretty sure that guns aren't allowed in nintendo games, it would probably look like this.

 

Mark36111

LOL

:lol:

My God! Some of you can really get your panties in a bunch over nothing, can't you?

He's not saying he could easily make Halo, he's saying he could easily make a Halo, i.e. a futuristic sci fi FPS which would appeal to the mass market in the West. And you know what? Anyone could really. Whether it's good or not has no bearing on how much it will sell. Just look at all the movie licenced trash out there- it sells because the brand is popular. Likewise, SciFi shooters are very popular at the moment in the western market.

 He's not dissing Halo in any way, he's merely using it as an example of a popular genre in the west which just happens to be one he could make a game of but doesn't want to.

And remember, it's most likely his comments were translated from Japanese, and as Bill Murray will tell you, you might not accurately get what he's saying.

You didn't even read that, I'd bet.  You scanned it and saw Miyamoto saying that without reading what it was about.

What he meant was that Halo catered to the American kids.  He was saying he could design a game like that, just catering to them, but chose not to.

The pie is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good.