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[QUOTE="Mikazukinoyaiba"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

That doesn't mean Miyamoto didn't save the gaming industry.

I never said he didn't, but to call him the God of "modern" video games is a bit of a stretch. If you consider the 80's and 90's modern then maybe so, but in 2007 the best selling games and highest rated games have blood, beeitches, guns, guts, hoes, and headshots. All things Miyamoto would never be linked to.
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.web966
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.
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[QUOTE="Synchro456"]If I met Miyamoto I would just praise him for inventing Mario! If I met Kutargi I would say congrats on having such a succesful two generations of gaming generations with the PS brand If I met Moore will err I would say that you have been doing a great job :D. Overall Miyamote influenced the gaming industry the most ny bringing such famous franchises and bringing innovative games like Super Mario 64. Kutargi kind of perfected the gaming market with the ps2 with such high sales. And well Moore we have to wait and see...Trading_Zoner

No, Moore has already shown what he can do.

He was the head man at sega when dreamcast was literally crushed by PS2. 

I just know he can do it again. 

Funny, I don't see the 360 following the lead of the Dreamcast in anyway.
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.falconclan
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?
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#55 falconclan
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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

[QUOTE="Synchro456"]If I met Miyamoto I would just praise him for inventing Mario! If I met Kutargi I would say congrats on having such a succesful two generations of gaming generations with the PS brand If I met Moore will err I would say that you have been doing a great job :D. Overall Miyamote influenced the gaming industry the most ny bringing such famous franchises and bringing innovative games like Super Mario 64. Kutargi kind of perfected the gaming market with the ps2 with such high sales. And well Moore we have to wait and see...Mikazukinoyaiba

No, Moore has already shown what he can do.

He was the head man at sega when dreamcast was literally crushed by PS2.

I just know he can do it again.

Funny, I don't see the 360 following the lead of the Dreamcast in anyway.

You people obviously don't understand the history before the dreamcast if you really think he can do it again, the ps2 didn't kill the dreamcast, Saturn did.
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#56 falconclan
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[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.web966
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?

Im talking about the good games. Do you really think casuals look on the internet day and night to find the best games? No, they bought the ps2 because it was out a year before the others, it was cheaper then the others, and it had all the sports games they wanted.
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[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

[QUOTE="Synchro456"]If I met Miyamoto I would just praise him for inventing Mario! If I met Kutargi I would say congrats on having such a succesful two generations of gaming generations with the PS brand If I met Moore will err I would say that you have been doing a great job :D. Overall Miyamote influenced the gaming industry the most ny bringing such famous franchises and bringing innovative games like Super Mario 64. Kutargi kind of perfected the gaming market with the ps2 with such high sales. And well Moore we have to wait and see...Mikazukinoyaiba

No, Moore has already shown what he can do.

He was the head man at sega when dreamcast was literally crushed by PS2.

I just know he can do it again.

Funny, I don't see the 360 following the lead of the Dreamcast in anyway.

Moore needs get on the ball then, and do what he does best.

More add ons Moore! That's what you need! 

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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.falconclan
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?

Im talking about the good games. Do you really think casuals look on the internet day and night to find the best games? No, they bought the ps2 because it was out a year before the others, it was cheaper then the others, and it had all the sports games they wanted.

I see what your saying. I should of said the more "popular" games.
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#59 DisPimpin
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[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.web966
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?

See Nintendo Wii.
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#60 falconclan
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[QUOTE="Mikazukinoyaiba"][QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

[QUOTE="Synchro456"]If I met Miyamoto I would just praise him for inventing Mario! If I met Kutargi I would say congrats on having such a succesful two generations of gaming generations with the PS brand If I met Moore will err I would say that you have been doing a great job :D. Overall Miyamote influenced the gaming industry the most ny bringing such famous franchises and bringing innovative games like Super Mario 64. Kutargi kind of perfected the gaming market with the ps2 with such high sales. And well Moore we have to wait and see...Trading_Zoner

No, Moore has already shown what he can do.

He was the head man at sega when dreamcast was literally crushed by PS2.

I just know he can do it again.

Funny, I don't see the 360 following the lead of the Dreamcast in anyway.

Moore needs get on the ball then, and do what he does best.

More add ons Moore! That's what you need!

Another foolish statement by you, yet not as foolish as your last, as the 32x and cd did tarnish sega's reputation, but you really must realise that the final nails in the coffin were mainly due to Sega's financial issues and saturn, which were connected.
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[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.web966
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?

Im talking about the good games. Do you really think casuals look on the internet day and night to find the best games? No, they bought the ps2 because it was out a year before the others, it was cheaper then the others, and it had all the sports games they wanted.

I see what your saying. I should of said the more "popular" games.

Exactly, thats why 50 cent bullet proof sold over a million copies, because most casuals (Roughly 95%) are idiots.
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I would give miyamoto a very deep bow, tell him he is a gaming god, and ask for a picture with him. Then I would ask him if he had time to talk and hopefully have a conversation with him.

I would bow to kutaragi tell him the PS2 is cool and go about my way.

I would shake moores hand and tell him my 360 still works and its awesome.

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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.DisPimpin
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

the wii and 360;). gaming would have gone on without the PS1 and PS2. It verywell might have died without miyamoto and nintndo. therefore miyamoto wins.
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I would tell Miyamoto that I like him. :oops:
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1) Kutaragi takes the hyperbole crown. 2) Miyamoto takes the development crown. 3) Peter Moore takes the publicity stunt crown.
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.Magical_Guy

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sigh... You don't get it. People eventually built up off of Miyamoto's vision for gaming. They built off of the concept of freely moving around and beating enemies, and made it to evolve into more complex games. Gears of War, Half-Life 2, Metal Gear Solid, and Halo; these games would never had existed if it were not for Nintendo and Miyamoto. Peter Moore, Ken Kutagari, David Jaffee, Hideo Kojima, Nobuo Uematsu; these people would be unemployed or have totally different careers if Miyamoto never made Super Mario Bros. He made an action game more complex; he provided an example to future video-game makers. We all owe him for what he did.
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[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.falconclan
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

The Games are more important than the hardware.

Spoken like a true sheep. Games and hardware go hand in hand.

Yes they do, but what is more important? The xbox hardware was better than the PS2's, but the PS2 had better games so it sold more. Games make the hardware.

Selling more has nothing to do with the games. If you truly believe that then you are a fool to the highest degree.

Games sell a console. What else would?

Im talking about the good games. Do you really think casuals look on the internet day and night to find the best games? No, they bought the ps2 because it was out a year before the others, it was cheaper then the others, and it had all the sports games they wanted.

I see what your saying. I should of said the more "popular" games.

Exactly, thats why 50 cent bullet proof sold over a million copies, because most casuals (Roughly 95%) are idiots.

Or they are wangstas like Chad Warden. :P
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.laughingman42
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

the wii and 360;). gaming would have gone on without the PS1 and PS2. It verywell might have died without miyamoto and nintndo. therefore miyamoto wins.

Really? Gaming may have very well died at the rate Ninty was going with the N64. I'm not sure how old you are but the industry was a mess around the time the PS1 came out. Several companies trying to cash in, overcrowding, and not really putting quality product out, just like in the early 80's. Devs were pissed at Nintendo for their shady business practices and still using cartridges, hence they went to Sony. PS1 saved gaming as much as the NES did, or did you forget about those Panasonic Zelda games? Dig a little deeper before sucking Miyamoto so hard next time.
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.DisPimpin
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

the wii and 360;). gaming would have gone on without the PS1 and PS2. It verywell might have died without miyamoto and nintndo. therefore miyamoto wins.

Really? Gaming may have very well died at the rate Ninty was going with the N64. I'm not sure how old you are but the industry was a mess around the time the PS1 came out. Several companies trying to cash in, overcrowding, and not really putting quality product out, just like in the early 80's. Devs were pissed at Nintendo for their shady business practices and still using cartridges, hence they went to Sony. PS1 saved gaming as much as the NES did, or did you forget about those Panasonic Zelda games? Dig a little deeper before sucking Miyamoto so hard next time.

Wasnt nintendo trying to go to CD? Wasnt sony trying to essentially screw nintendo by taking all of the rights of the games made for the CD attachment?

edit. No one ever bought the Panasonic system. And if the gaming industry was doing so badly ad about to crash why didnt the N64 fail? Would you call the 5th best selling console ever a failure? not only that the saturn went to CDs and still bombed.

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I dont know man, i dont think you can compare those two to miyamoto.......in all honesty, not to sound like a fanboy, but the guy is on a whole other level when it comes to what he is bringing to the table in terms of talent, content and innovation (among other things).
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.Magical_Guy

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sorry to bust up the party kids but Miyamoto's vision is not to deny the creation of M rated video games, online play and something as futile and idiotic as the medium on which games are essentially printed. Miyamoto does not like M rated games as a PREFERENCE, he prefers not to make them. He doesnt need to exploit as something as simple minded as visceral violence to make his games entertaining; he has creativity, innovation and intelligence on his side. And it works. Mario and Pokemon are the most profitable intellectual properties in the industry despite their "kiddy" appearance. If miyamoto had his way the industry would be a Gameplay >>>>> Presentation/Graphics oriented one. Now dont say, 'So he thinks t3h graphics dont matt3r?!" because thats not what im saying at all. Miyamoto believes that gameplay is what makes a game a game and to have fun gameplay is to have a fun game; no matter what the connect connecting the dynamics may be....be it mario, pokemon or a (insert average and uncreative franchise which revolves around visceral violence for all content) Now get off my lawn you nutty kids.
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[QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.MaTT2011

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sorry to bust up the party kids but Miyamoto's vision is not to deny the creation of M rated video games, online play and something as futile and idiotic as the medium on which games are essentially printed. Miyamoto does not like M rated games as a PREFERENCE, he prefers not to make them. He doesnt need to exploit as something as simple minded as visceral violence to make his games entertaining; he has creativity, innovation and intelligence on his side. And it works. Mario and Pokemon are the most profitable intellectual properties in the industry despite their "kiddy" appearance. If miyamoto had his way the industry would be a Gameplay >>>>> Presentation/Graphics oriented one. Now dont say, 'So he thinks t3h graphics dont matt3r?!" because thats not what im saying at all. Miyamoto believes that gameplay is what makes a game a game and to have fun gameplay is to have a fun game; no matter what the connect connecting the dynamics may be....be it mario, pokemon or a (insert average and uncreative franchise which revolves around visceral violence for all content) Now get off my lawn you nutty kids.

Thank you for educating them. :)
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="web966"]Miyamoto is way more important than kutaragi or moore will ever be.DisPimpin
Really? Way more important than the man behind the best selling consoles in gaming history? Miyamoto and Kutaragi are equally important to the game industry.

People who make the games are more important. Kutaragi might have been behind some great hardware, but he has never designed an amazing, influencial game.

So that means he's not as important? What do you play games on?

the wii and 360;). gaming would have gone on without the PS1 and PS2. It verywell might have died without miyamoto and nintndo. therefore miyamoto wins.

Really? Gaming may have very well died at the rate Ninty was going with the N64. I'm not sure how old you are but the industry was a mess around the time the PS1 came out. Several companies trying to cash in, overcrowding, and not really putting quality product out, just like in the early 80's. Devs were pissed at Nintendo for their shady business practices and still using cartridges, hence they went to Sony. PS1 saved gaming as much as the NES did, or did you forget about those Panasonic Zelda games? Dig a little deeper before sucking Miyamoto so hard next time.

I like Playstation, but no, just no :lol: 

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Sigh... You don't get it. People eventually built up off of Miyamoto's vision for gaming. They built off of the concept of freely moving around and beating enemies, and made it to evolve into more complex games. Gears of War, Half-Life 2, Metal Gear Solid, and Halo; these games would never had existed if it were not for Nintendo and Miyamoto. Peter Moore, Ken Kutagari, David Jaffee, Hideo Kojima, Nobuo Uematsu; these people would be unemployed or have totally different careers if Miyamoto never made Super Mario Bros. He made an action game more complex; he provided an example to future video-game makers. We all owe him for what he did.

Oh nonsense, he didn't "make" that he just popularized it. Such games existed well prior in the form of Pitfall II for instance. Miyamoto built off of priorly existing concepts as much as anyone else did.
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[QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.MaTT2011

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sorry to bust up the party kids but Miyamoto's vision is not to deny the creation of M rated video games, online play and something as futile and idiotic as the medium on which games are essentially printed. Miyamoto does not like M rated games as a PREFERENCE, he prefers not to make them. He doesnt need to exploit as something as simple minded as visceral violence to make his games entertaining; he has creativity, innovation and intelligence on his side. And it works. Mario and Pokemon are the most profitable intellectual properties in the industry despite their "kiddy" appearance. If miyamoto had his way the industry would be a Gameplay >>>>> Presentation/Graphics oriented one. Now dont say, 'So he thinks t3h graphics dont matt3r?!" because thats not what im saying at all. Miyamoto believes that gameplay is what makes a game a game and to have fun gameplay is to have a fun game; no matter what the connect connecting the dynamics may be....be it mario, pokemon or a (insert average and uncreative franchise which revolves around visceral violence for all content) Now get off my lawn you nutty kids.

Oh no, it's the disgruntled sheep who gets beat up, so he doesn't like violence.  We live in a violent world, why would that not translate into the games we play?  Why can't a violent game be "fun" for sheep?  Is it because you don't have any?
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.DisPimpin

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sorry to bust up the party kids but Miyamoto's vision is not to deny the creation of M rated video games, online play and something as futile and idiotic as the medium on which games are essentially printed. Miyamoto does not like M rated games as a PREFERENCE, he prefers not to make them. He doesnt need to exploit as something as simple minded as visceral violence to make his games entertaining; he has creativity, innovation and intelligence on his side. And it works. Mario and Pokemon are the most profitable intellectual properties in the industry despite their "kiddy" appearance. If miyamoto had his way the industry would be a Gameplay >>>>> Presentation/Graphics oriented one. Now dont say, 'So he thinks t3h graphics dont matt3r?!" because thats not what im saying at all. Miyamoto believes that gameplay is what makes a game a game and to have fun gameplay is to have a fun game; no matter what the connect connecting the dynamics may be....be it mario, pokemon or a (insert average and uncreative franchise which revolves around visceral violence for all content) Now get off my lawn you nutty kids.

Oh no, it's the disgruntled sheep who gets beat up, so he doesn't like violence.  We live in a violent world, why would that not translate into the games we play?  Why can't a violent game be "fun" for sheep?  Is it because you don't have any?

your grabing a straws. no one ever said that.
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#77 machitocaliente
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MIYAMOTO?   GAMING LEGEND

 

kutaragi ? tech head gone mad

 

moore ? suit

 

 

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#78 OceanLeet
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Miyamoto - "Nice.  Now start making mature games for the many mature gamers out there."

Kutaragi - "$600??  ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MIND????"

Moore  - "Quit making crappy hardware and give us a price drop."

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I like Playstation, but no, just no :lol:

 

Blackbond
Playstation didn't "save" the industry. The industry didn't need to be saved at the time it was released. But it sure as hell grew it A LOT. It turned gaming from something mostly kids did, into a mainstream product that ALL types of people enjoyed.
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In a fight Moore could take out Miyamoto and Kutaragi,
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#81 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="MaTT2011"][QUOTE="Magical_Guy"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]Simply put, without Miyamoto's vision in the gaming industry, we would not have a PS3 or Xbox 360. Gaming would be changed forever. The next time you make fun of Shigeru Miyamoto, remember that you are making fun of the god of modern video games.DisPimpin

Objection!!!!! If all we has was Miyamoto's vision, there would be no such thing as M rated games.

we would also still be on cartridges and have no online play.

Sorry to bust up the party kids but Miyamoto's vision is not to deny the creation of M rated video games, online play and something as futile and idiotic as the medium on which games are essentially printed. Miyamoto does not like M rated games as a PREFERENCE, he prefers not to make them. He doesnt need to exploit as something as simple minded as visceral violence to make his games entertaining; he has creativity, innovation and intelligence on his side. And it works. Mario and Pokemon are the most profitable intellectual properties in the industry despite their "kiddy" appearance. If miyamoto had his way the industry would be a Gameplay >>>>> Presentation/Graphics oriented one. Now dont say, 'So he thinks t3h graphics dont matt3r?!" because thats not what im saying at all. Miyamoto believes that gameplay is what makes a game a game and to have fun gameplay is to have a fun game; no matter what the connect connecting the dynamics may be....be it mario, pokemon or a (insert average and uncreative franchise which revolves around visceral violence for all content) Now get off my lawn you nutty kids.

Oh no, it's the disgruntled sheep who gets beat up, so he doesn't like violence. We live in a violent world, why would that not translate into the games we play? Why can't a violent game be "fun" for sheep? Is it because you don't have any?

Last time I checked, Killer 7, Resident Evil 4, MGS: Twin Snakes, and Eternal Darkness were all rated M.
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In a fight Moore could take out Miyamoto and Kutaragi,kage_53
no way! they would bust out their mad karate skills that every Japanese person is automatically ingrained with at birth.

 

for the slower ones out there that was a joke.

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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Sigh... You don't get it. People eventually built up off of Miyamoto's vision for gaming. They built off of the concept of freely moving around and beating enemies, and made it to evolve into more complex games. Gears of War, Half-Life 2, Metal Gear Solid, and Halo; these games would never had existed if it were not for Nintendo and Miyamoto. Peter Moore, Ken Kutagari, David Jaffee, Hideo Kojima, Nobuo Uematsu; these people would be unemployed or have totally different careers if Miyamoto never made Super Mario Bros. He made an action game more complex; he provided an example to future video-game makers. We all owe him for what he did.

Oh nonsense, he didn't "make" that he just popularized it. Such games existed well prior in the form of Pitfall II for instance. Miyamoto built off of priorly existing concepts as much as anyone else did.

Ok, you try telling me who would have bought an NES if Super Mario Bros. was not a launch title. Exactly. It's the most successful game ever, period.
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]In a fight Moore could take out Miyamoto and Kutaragi,laughingman42

no way! they would bust out their mad karate skills that every Japanese person is automatically ingrained with at birth.

for the slower ones out there that was a joke.

Miyamoto would summon Charizard and toast Moore into burnt Sushi.
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[QUOTE="kage_53"]In a fight Moore could take out Miyamoto and Kutaragi,laughingman42

no way! they would bust out their mad karate skills that every Japanese person is automatically ingrained with at birth.

 

for the slower ones out there that was a joke.

Kutaragi and Miyomoto look fragile. Moore is stronger than both.
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#86 Runningflame570
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] Ok, you try telling me who would have bought an NES if Super Mario Bros. was not a launch title. Exactly. It's the most successful game ever, period.

Still fits into the "popularized" bit. Who would have bought a Playstation if uhmm...well, stuff wasn't a launch title. Irrelevant in the grand scheme of things just as launches for the most part are irrelevant. While we're at it pack-ins do not equal sales. Anybody who thinks Wii Play has actually "sold" those multiple millions is full of it.
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#87 OceanLeet
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"]

[QUOTE="kage_53"]In a fight Moore could take out Miyamoto and Kutaragi,kage_53

no way! they would bust out their mad karate skills that every Japanese person is automatically ingrained with at birth.

 

for the slower ones out there that was a joke.

Kutaragi and Miyomoto look fragile. Moore is stronger than both.

But Moore is also bald.  It's his weakness.  Miyamoto and Kutaragi can sneak in then BLAM show their awesome hair to Moore.  He would cower at that amazing hair sight. 

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Ken ! I mean look at him, hes so cute and cuddly. Holding his little PS3 as high as his little wee arms can hold it... smiling...
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#89 wklzip
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Is it me, or Ken the only normal looking one?shungokustasu
LOL
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#90 AgentA-Mi6
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To Miyamoto : " Nintendo is not kiddy at all dont worry"

To Kutaragy : "600$ isnt that expensive for almost everybody dont worry"

To Moore : The 360´ll never be outsold by the ps3 , the wii or both relax"

:lol:

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#91 cakeorrdeath
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Both Miyamoto and Kutaragi have had huge creative effects on the industry, Moore is just an exec. He wasn't even at Microsoft when all the major decisions conserning the direction of the original Xbox were meade.

 

This basically comes down to which you see as being more influential. Myamoto's games or Kutaragi's Hardware.  

 

If you were going to have a Microsft exec it should be J. Alllard as he is the man who convinced MS to enter the race for themselves (and not just buy someone else). He is the lead designer of the Xbox, Xbox 360, Live and All of MS development tools.

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If you were going to have a Microsft exec it should be J. Alllard as he is the man who convinced MS to enter the race for themselves (and not just buy someone else). He is the lead designer of the Xbox, Xbox 360, Live and All of MS development tools.cakeorrdeath
He is also a wuss because he lost a bet to N'Gai Croal about the PSP selling 10 million within 12 months (give or take 3 months). He was supposed to wear a dreadlock wig for the month of May (including E3), but he never showed up. http://ncroal.talk.newsweek.com/default.asp?item=327322
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#93 beinss
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1. What would you do/say if you met Shigeru Miyamato? You are brilliant 2. What would you do/say if you met Ken Kutaragi? What were u thinking? RIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDGGGGEEEE RRRRAAAAAAACCCCCCCCEEEEEERRRRR??? 3. What would you do/say if you met Peter Moore? Nice job on the 360, i expected a flop.
Wow, this thread's going to have a lot of kutaragi bashing and a lot of Miyamoto/Moore idolizing munu9
Theres a reason for it
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#94 akif22
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miyamoto is the most important to gaming out of them three by far if i saw kuturagi, i'd probably just punch him moore is ok .. he's going in the right direction with gaming IMO, but miyamoto is just untouchable a better comparison would be between miyamoto, kojima and someone else .. miyamoto would still win though IMO
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#95 LucasDigital
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Is it me, or Ken the only normal looking one?shungokustasu
LOL "only normal looking one" i can guess what race you are :roll: the way Ken looks makes me wana punch his face..... just look at him! Arrg
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To Miyamoto: "Sir, I thank you from the bottom from my heart for the countless hours of entertainment that your games provided me" or something equally lame. :P

To Moore: Fake Tattoos are so passé. O_o

 

And to Ken : I don't know exactly, but i'll be like  all over his ass.

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#97 LucasDigital
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To Miyamoto : " Nintendo is not kiddy at all dont worry"

To Kutaragy : "600$ isnt that expensive for almost everybody dont worry"

To Moore : The 360´ll never be outsold by the ps3 , the wii or both relax"

:lol:

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"600$ isnt that expensive for almost everybody dont worry" YEH :roll: tell that to the millions of starving kids in the world!!! ………………Not ones in Africa, ones that bought a ps3 and now have no money :lol:
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#98 -CheeseEater-
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If I met Shiggy himself, I'd shake his hand and say, "Well done mate"
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#99 SergeantSnitch
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Holy crap.  Until just now, I though Kutaragi was the dude that says "RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACEEER."
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#100 trasherhead
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The top dude looks like a perv, the second one lookslike he is a candy seller and the last one looks like a mob thug. I realy don't like mr.moore, hes an a** who did the finishing blows to Sega.