Modern Warfare 2 destroyed Battlefield 3 (GameSpot, Metacritic, Sales)

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#1 GTAV2012
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Many, many people claim MW2 is a terrible game here on these boards. Many people also claimed prior to release that Battlefield 3 would be something truly special and much better than the CoD franchise. Guess what? Metacritic: MW2 - 94 BF3 - 91 GS: MW2 - 9 BF3 - 8.5 Modern Warfare 2, although being more imbalanced, is the better game by a wide margin. Agreed? The ammo for the CoD haters has run out. They can't turn to GS scores, not to Metacritic scores, not to sales. They have nothing left but their opinion. And we are all laughing.
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#2 MonsieurX
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Oh look,it's this thread again.
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#3 TrapJak
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Comparing 2 to 3?

Why not wait till MW3, THEN make this thread...maybe.

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#4 kingtito
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Many, many people claim MW2 is a terrible game here on these boards. Many people also claimed prior to release that Battlefield 3 would be something truly special and much better than the CoD franchise. Guess what? Metacritic: MW2 - 94 BF3 - 91 GS: MW2 - 9 BF3 - 8.5 Modern Warfare 2, although being more imbalanced, is the better game by a wide margin. Agreed? The ammo for the CoD haters has run out. They can't turn to GS scores, not to Metacritic scores, not to sales. They have nothing left but their opinion. And we are all laughing.GTAV2012
Nice opinion you have. Lots could argue against though but.........opinion =/= fact
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#5 BPoole96
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MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

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#6 GTAV2012
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Ah, it is good that your replies are "acceptable" and not full of deny. We can now conclude that MW2 >>>>>>>>>>> BF3.
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#7 Blueresident87
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MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

BPoole96

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

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#8 IPWNDU2
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Ocarina of Time beat them both. GOTY!

Goldeneye N64- 96 Metacritic score. So I guess 007 > COD Franchise? I love this type of logic you have of brining up games from the past.

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#9 kozzy1234
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MW2 is one of hte worst onlien FPS ive playe din 20+ years of gaming. Just horrid!

And before you say im a cod hater.. thats nto true, as I own eveyr cod game to date and COD1/COD2 are two fo my fav shooters ever (COD4 was the last good COD game).

BF3 has alreayd passed all the COD games with BF3 imo. Its 100 times better in multiplayer and thats what matters to me.

Take the sales adn reviews, Ill take the game I have mroe fun on thank you very much.

BF3 is pushign the genre forward, COD is just staying the same.

You also seem to forget the USER score for MW2 on metacritic, its below 4/10! lmao!

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#10 2Chalupas
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MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

BPoole96

So basically what you are saying is people that get paid (directly, or indrectly through ads, by Activision) to review the game, score it a 94.


Customers that actually paid to play the game, score it a 37.


Interesting. :lol:

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#11 lundy86_4
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CoD score average from metacritic vs. the BF score average is nigh on identical./

Also, why not use the Black Ops average of 81/87/88?

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#12 rastotm
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I guess you haven't played MW 2 enough, it's a matter of time before you start to notice how bad it is. Sadly it takes alot longer for some then others.

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#13 chaplainDMK
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[QUOTE="GTAV2012"]Many, many people claim MW2 is a terrible game here on these boards. Many people also claimed prior to release that Battlefield 3 would be something truly special and much better than the CoD franchise. Guess what? Metacritic: MW2 - 94 BF3 - 91 GS: MW2 - 9 BF3 - 8.5 Modern Warfare 2, although being more imbalanced, is the better game by a wide margin. Agreed? The ammo for the CoD haters has run out. They can't turn to GS scores, not to Metacritic scores, not to sales. They have nothing left but their opinion. And we are all laughing.

Bad Company 2 is 9, that's MW2s competitor. Not BF3. And BF3 is gonna fail by your logic, it's gonna get ripped to shreds at launch because it's buggy and instable (just like BF2 was).. But I think the WW3 contest Gamespot is having, where just about evreyone is voting for BF3 is kinda showing you that BF3 is kinda more popular in the gaming circles.
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I guess you haven't played MW 2 enough, it's a matter of time before you start to notice how bad it is. Sadly it takes alot longer for some then others.

rastotm

Yup, the first few days I was like "Oh this is not to bad" but as you play more you start to relize how unbalanced and how bad the map design is.

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#15 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

2Chalupas

So basically what you are saying is people that get paid (directly, or indrectly through ads, by Activision) to review the game, score it a 94.


Customers that actually paid to play the game, score it a 37.


Interesting. :lol:

Exactly! Funny hwo much money and hype can change things :P

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#16 DemoPan7
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nope.avi http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battlefield-3 MW2 = 86 on MC BF3 = 91 on MC PC is all that matters when it comes to FPS so it doesn't matter what the console scores are.
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#17 TrapJak
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[QUOTE="rastotm"]

I guess you haven't played MW 2 enough, it's a matter of time before you start to notice how bad it is. Sadly it takes alot longer for some then others.

kozzy1234

Yup, the first few days I was like "Oh this is not to bad" but as you play more you start to relize how unbalanced and how bad the map design is.

Yes, I thought I was the only one who felt that way. It was nice as first, before I noticed that Commando Pro was the only thing you needed to win. That , and the Intervention.

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#18 kozzy1234
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nope.avi http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battlefield-3 MW2 = 86 on MC BF3 = 91 on MC PC . DemoPan7

Ownage approved, TC is getting ripped apart

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#19 Console_Gamer93
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

2Chalupas

So basically what you are saying is people that get paid (directly, or indrectly through ads, by Activision) to review the game, score it a 94.


Customers that actually paid to play the game, score it a 37.


Interesting. :lol:

Pay to play? You don't need to play anything to give it a rating.

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#20 Trav57
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It's pretty evident that cod pays for its reviews when reviewers praise the linear campaigns with bad stories and then BF3 gets marked down for having the same type of campaign. Seriously, look at all the user review scores compared to the critic scores. Unfortunately MW3 will probably get a 9.0 again for being the same exact game as MW2 with unbalanced multiplayer and a short, linear campaign. Seriously, the review scores of cod don't mean anything
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#21 finalfantasy94
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I dont care if it got perfert 10's and 100's I call something crap when its crap and thats what mw2 is.

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#22 Loegi
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[QUOTE="DemoPan7"]nope.avi http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battlefield-3 MW2 = 86 on MC BF3 = 91 on MC PC is all that matters when it comes to FPS so it doesn't matter what the console scores are.

That's not true, COD is usually optimized for xbox 360.
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For all of MW2's problems at least I never had to spend 20 minutes trying to join games, I find it seriously pathetic that after all the effort they put into BF3 they still can't launch a game without broken servers.
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#24 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

Blueresident87

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

User scores, you mean people who don't even have to play a game to rate/review? Yeah... lol!
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#25 SaltyMeatballs
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For all of MW2's problems at least I never had to spend 20 minutes trying to join games, I find it seriously pathetic that after all the effort they put into BF3 they still can't launch a game without broken servers.bobbetybob
You'd think the Beta would have sorted out those problems.
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#26 el3m2tigre
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Gamespot, metacritic, and sales doesn't change the fact that is was a broken and unbalanced trash of a game.

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#27 Lucianu
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You must be under the influence of Bobby Kotick, no human with free will would have created this thread.

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#28 beganoo
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Ah the good ol' Akimbo shotguns.Had so much fun with those. MW2 was extremely unbalanced no doubt but if you liked to abuse broken **** the game was so much FUN!I know a lot people were extremely mad about these pre nerf (actually 2 nerfs beacuse after the 1st nerf you could still use them the same way with one sepecific perk).It was hilarious.

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#29 freedomfreak
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Eh...Let's wait for 3.

But it's no secret COD sells good and scores good,but it's still weird if you like them.

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#30 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

SaltyMeatballs

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

User scores, you mean people who don't even have to play a game to rate/review? Yeah... lol!

Indeed.User scores are horrible.There are 10s and 1s all over.
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#31 Blueresident87
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[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

SaltyMeatballs

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

User scores, you mean people who don't even have to play a game to rate/review? Yeah... lol!

Well yea, that's obvoiusly the problem with MC user-review scores, but all reviews suffer from a similar problem. They stand for nothing except the opinion of the person reviewing them. They are completely arbitrary.

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#32 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

MW2 also has a 3.7 user score on metacritic

SaltyMeatballs

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

User scores, you mean people who don't even have to play a game to rate/review? Yeah... lol!

not like reviewers are any more trust worthy there are countless times that reviewers haven't completed games before they made the review and there are some reviewers that dislike game types but are given them to review but then people put much into numbers and reviews
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#33 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Blueresident87"]

Yea, he chose to ignore that I guess.

elbert_b_23

User scores, you mean people who don't even have to play a game to rate/review? Yeah... lol!

not like reviewers are any more trust worthy there are countless times that reviewers haven't completed games before they made the review and there are some reviewers that dislike game types but are given them to review but then people put much into numbers and reviews

Pretty much, like IGN. :P

But we know they have played the game at least (at least, considering it comes from a trusted website) rather than some random fanboy giving it a low rating without having played or even fanboys rating too highly, MC has too many trolls, MW2 may not be for everyone buy 3.7 user scores shows it has clearly been trolled.

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#34 GTAV2012
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[QUOTE="DemoPan7"]nope.avi MW2 = 86 on MC BF3 = 91 on MC PC . kozzy1234

Ownage approved, TC is getting ripped apart

94 >>>>>> 91. Yes, I am getting ripped apart by simple logic showing how you Battlefield fans are DESTROYED, I guess... The 360 is the best version of Modern Warfare 2 due to the PC version having no dedicated server. While the best version of Battlefield 3 only managed 91. Such a shame considering the hype for Battlefield 3.
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94 >>>>>> 91. Yes, I am getting ripped apart by simple logic showing how you Battlefield fans are DESTROYED, I guess... The 360 is the best version of Modern Warfare 2 due to the PC version having no dedicated server. While the best version of Battlefield 3 only managed 91. Such a shame considering the hype for Battlefield 3.GTAV2012

It's pretty clear you're simply cherrypicking the game to use the scores. Why not use BO? It's the most recent release, as is BF3. Or, better yet, why not average the scores of each game in the series along with each released version?

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#36 GTAV2012
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[QUOTE="GTAV2012"]94 >>>>>> 91. Yes, I am getting ripped apart by simple logic showing how you Battlefield fans are DESTROYED, I guess... The 360 is the best version of Modern Warfare 2 due to the PC version having no dedicated server. While the best version of Battlefield 3 only managed 91. Such a shame considering the hype for Battlefield 3.lundy86_4

It's pretty clear you're simply cherrypicking the game to use the scores. Why not use BO? It's the most recent release, as is BF3. Or, better yet, why not average the scores of each game in the series along with each released version?

Well, BF3 is this year going up against an Infinity Ward game, so I thought it would be appropriate to compare with a Modern Warfare game?
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Oh look,it's this thread again.MonsieurX
And oh look it's GTAV2012 again. It's too obvious it's to stir up trouble
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Well, BF3 is this year going up against an Infinity Ward game, so I thought it would be appropriate to compare with a Modern Warfare game?GTAV2012

Sounds like you simply cherrypicked. Now you chose it due to the game being created by Infinity Ward? Why not just average the scores between each series, as that would be a much fairer representation. I'll tell you how it ends, CoD wins out by around .25 of a percent.

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[QUOTE="DemoPan7"]nope.avi http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/battlefield-3 MW2 = 86 on MC BF3 = 91 on MC PC is all that matters when it comes to FPS so it doesn't matter what the console scores are.

TC just got stomped.
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#40 TREAL_Since
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MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

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#41 Jankarcop
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MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

TREAL_Since
and bf3 on pc will still be the better game.
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#42 GTAV2012
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[QUOTE="GTAV2012"]Well, BF3 is this year going up against an Infinity Ward game, so I thought it would be appropriate to compare with a Modern Warfare game?lundy86_4

Sounds like you simply cherrypicked. Now you chose it due to the game being created by Infinity Ward? Why not just average the scores between each series, as that would be a much fairer representation. I'll tell you how it ends, CoD wins out by around .25 of a percent.

I guess you take the PC versions of CoD (the worst ones)? If that's the case, CoD still wins.
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#44 23Jarek23
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So if the rangers play the blackhawks and beat them 5-4 they've destroyed them? lol lame thread

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#45 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"]Well, BF3 is this year going up against an Infinity Ward game, so I thought it would be appropriate to compare with a Modern Warfare game?GTAV2012

Sounds like you simply cherrypicked. Now you chose it due to the game being created by Infinity Ward? Why not just average the scores between each series, as that would be a much fairer representation. I'll tell you how it ends, CoD wins out by around .25 of a percent.

I guess you take the PC versions of CoD (the worst ones)? If that's the case, CoD still wins.

Nope, average out the series with all the releases (PC/360/PS3), or any mixture of releases if not on all of the systems. It would be fairer than your cherrypicking.

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#46 Blueresident87
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MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

TREAL_Since

Probably true, but this also isn't because it's a better game. It's just more popular.

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#47 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

Jankarcop

and bf3 on pc will still be the better game.

Here's the thing: A game will be better according to an individual's standard. What you like as a gamer is more important to you, than what any scores or sales say. If you like BF3 more that is awesome and I totally support your choice since I view it strictly as opinion. I'm just predicting that MW3 will have the higher numbers. And it will be hilarious when it happens.

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#48 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="rastotm"]

I guess you haven't played MW 2 enough, it's a matter of time before you start to notice how bad it is. Sadly it takes alot longer for some then others.

kozzy1234

Yup, the first few days I was like "Oh this is not to bad" but as you play more you start to relize how unbalanced and how bad the map design is.

if everything is unbalanced for everyone then therfore it becomes balanced no?
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#49 GTAV2012
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

Blueresident87

Probably true, but this also isn't because it's a better game. It's just more popular.

If it outscores BF3 on GS and MC, you can be damn sure it's the better game (just like with previous COD titles).
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#50 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

MW3 will score higher, sell more, and have more online players. And no, not just because Activision paid everyone off.

Blueresident87

Probably true, but this also isn't because it's a better game. It's just more popular.

A can of problems opens when you say that. If you categorize COD as overrated only because its popular, then bundle Halo, Mario, and Star Craft with it.