Modern Warfare 2 Most Pirated game of 2009, 4.1 million downloads on the PC

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#751 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] If the game had dedicated servers and every single option you guys are crying about it would still be pirated to death. I have never seen a group try so hard to justify Piracy. When it was Crysis they pirated it to see if their rig could handle it. Demi God came out and it was pirated to death which caused a lot of problems for those that bought it but I cannot remember what the justification was for that one. SF Iv came out and it got almost 2 million downloads...I'm sure they game didn't even sill a half million. The fact is people pirate games because they can get something for free and that is the only reason. People do not pirate games because a dedicated server is missing. That just sounds foolish.

If there were dedicated servers, the game would have sold well even with high piracy ratios, like CoD4 did. Noone is trying to justify piracy. PC gamers are just irritated because a company tried to screw us, and they got what was coming to them. You people claiming PC gamers are pirates, IW did nothing wrong and other meaningless "lol legality" or "dont like their game dont buy it" stuff is what turns "irritated" to "******* off", and causes these kind of threads.
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#752 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]

People do not pirate games because a dedicated server is missing. That just sounds foolish.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that, I've heard plenty of people say they're going to pirate it for just that reason.

That's just their way of justifying the choice they made. They know if it had a server they would still choose the free route.

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#753 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] But I dont think it will make Infinity Ward take any more steps to improve the next MW for PC, seems like to me they'd shoot a big fat middle finger back at the PC community and not even make a PC version. Dont get me wrong here, I think it's crap how IW screwed PC gamer's with MW2, but I dont think pirating it will improve anything down the road for PC gamers. I'm on the PC gamer's side here, I hope they get justice in the next game.

IW already had everything set up and working perfectly, but decided to throw it away and replace dedicated servers with consolish netcoding, knowing every competitive gaming clan with their own server would have used it exclusively for MW2 if they could, and ignored petitions that reached hundreds of thousands in less than a week, giving NO FRIGGIN EXCUSE whatsoever. Thinking they will take steps to improve the next PC game only by seeing poor sales is delusional. 4 millions middle fingers, however, will make them understand the heresy they have done.
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#754 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] But I dont think it will make Infinity Ward take any more steps to improve the next MW for PC, seems like to me they'd shoot a big fat middle finger back at the PC community and not even make a PC version. Dont get me wrong here, I think it's crap how IW screwed PC gamer's with MW2, but I dont think pirating it will improve anything down the road for PC gamers. I'm on the PC gamer's side here, I hope they get justice in the next game.N30F3N1X
IW already had everything set up and working perfectly, but decided to throw it away and replace dedicated servers with consolish netcoding, knowing every competitive gaming clan with their own server would have used it exclusively for MW2 if they could, and ignored petitions that reached hundreds of thousands in less than a week, giving NO FRIGGIN EXCUSE whatsoever. Thinking they will take steps to improve the next PC game only by seeing poor sales is delusional. 4 millions middle fingers, however, will make them understand the heresy they have done.

if the game had servers they would still get that 4 million middle fingers.
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#755 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] if the game had servers they would still get that 4 million middle fingers.

Assumptions.
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#756 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"] if the game had servers they would still get that 4 million middle fingers.N30F3N1X
Assumptions.

The first game was pirated to death also. What was the reason then?
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#757 Vandalvideo
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You could - and I'm goin' out on a real limb here - PLAY EACH OTHER. Just a thought.In the meantime, it's a perfect example of why it helps to have enforced skill matching in multiplayer. Overwhelmingly, the game I've spent the most time online with this year was Killzone 2, and a quick peek at my stats shows that I've racked up a whopping 8 hours (not a typo). If I end up on a server with people who have time to play that much in a week, there's really no point, and I'm stuck finding another server, or (more likely) just throwing in a single-player game instead. But hey, if pounding on guys who put in about a tenth the playtime sounds like fun, go nuts.lowe0
We do play each other in PUGs. But thanks to the removal of dedicated servers, pugs just aren't very appealing anymore. I prefer dedicated servers over matchmaking, because people tend to sort themselves out.
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#758 Vandalvideo
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Demi God came out and it was pirated to death which caused a lot of problems for those that bought it, I cannot remember what the justification was for that one. Jamex1987
Demigod's crackbox netcode was a flipping joke! Thats the reason why they offered to refund many peoples' money.

The fact is people pirate games because they can get something for free and that is the only reason. People do not pirate games because a dedicated server is missing. That just sounds foolish

Insufficient evidence. THe fact is, people claim to pirate for any number of different reasons. You don't know if they are being honest or not. If I were to pirate MW2, it would be for lack of dedicated server.s
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#759 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] But I dont think it will make Infinity Ward take any more steps to improve the next MW for PC, seems like to me they'd shoot a big fat middle finger back at the PC community and not even make a PC version. Dont get me wrong here, I think it's crap how IW screwed PC gamer's with MW2, but I dont think pirating it will improve anything down the road for PC gamers. I'm on the PC gamer's side here, I hope they get justice in the next game.N30F3N1X
IW already had everything set up and working perfectly, but decided to throw it away and replace dedicated servers with consolish netcoding, knowing every competitive gaming clan with their own server would have used it exclusively for MW2 if they could, and ignored petitions that reached hundreds of thousands in less than a week, giving NO FRIGGIN EXCUSE whatsoever. Thinking they will take steps to improve the next PC game only by seeing poor sales is delusional. 4 millions middle fingers, however, will make them understand the heresy they have done.

They removed dedicated servers so that people couldn't play it anymore when the next rehash comes out and they stop support for MW2, I guess they were mad that too many people were still playing CoD, CoD2 and the original MW as can be seen though xfire.

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#760 shakmaster13
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Also, many many people here are much more ignorant and gullible than I would have believed. You CAN NOT track how many times a torrent has been downloaded. The whole idea of 4.1 million pirated copies is a joke.

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#761 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="Brownesque"]I want to see Robby Kotick crying and lamenting the loss of his millions of dollars after his failed attempt at overzealous DRM protection. Pirates cut through this game's DRM like a hot knife through butter. Call it justice. Maybe the next game will have the features the community asked for. For those of you that think the PC market is small, think again. No, we're just irritable and easily deterred from purchasing inferior products.carljohnson3456
Well said. It's too bad some people are too blind to realize you have to act if you want something done. Being passive accomplishes nothing.

But pirating the game and playing it only shows that you actually do want to play it... just without paying for it. If it's such an inferior game, why would anybody even pirate it? If it's so inferior, it shouldnt even be worth playing.

Was there even a demo to try?

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#762 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="Brownesque"]I want to see Robby Kotick crying and lamenting the loss of his millions of dollars after his failed attempt at overzealous DRM protection. Pirates cut through this game's DRM like a hot knife through butter. Call it justice. Maybe the next game will have the features the community asked for. For those of you that think the PC market is small, think again. No, we're just irritable and easily deterred from purchasing inferior products.Jamex1987

Well said. It's too bad some people are too blind to realize you have to act if you want something done. Being passive accomplishes nothing.

If the game had dedicated servers and every single option you guys are crying about it would still be pirated to death. I have never seen a group try so hard to justify Piracy. When it was Crysis they pirated it to see if their rig could handle it. Demi God came out and it was pirated to death which caused a lot of problems for those that bought it, I cannot remember what the justification was for that one. SF Iv came out and it got almost 2 million downloads...I'm sure they game didn't even sell 250,000 copies.

The fact is people pirate games because they can get something for free and that is the only reason. People do not pirate games because a dedicated server is missing. That just sounds foolish.

Not only does it have no dedicated servers, but no mods and it's more expensive then previous games... You need to informe yourself better buddy... Now all thoses reasons will make people pirate this game even more... I have COD4 and 5, well guess what, i'm not touching this game until it's 75% off.

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#763 kunal1092000
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I play MW2 on the 360 and the amount of Auto-Aim is Noobtastic to say the least.

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#764 lowe0
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"] Noone is trying to justify piracy. PC gamers are just irritated because a company tried to screw us, and they got what was coming to them.

So if piracy isn't justified, then why do you say they had it coming ONE SENTENCE LATER? Quite a contradiction.
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#765 04dcarraher
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The reason why it didnt sell good on Pc is because Most Pc gamers know when they are getting shafted unlike consolers. Consolers are use to these overhyped games that dont deliver and cheat you out of money. Pc gamers & community has higher standards. Between the games costing $10 more under a 3 hour SP, and an addon type of content MP fron Cod 4 its not worth it. Many people I know have stop playing MW2 because its alot like Cod4 which they get bored more easily. Some of them were like "why did I spend money on this"? I told them because you bought into the hype.
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#766 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"] Noone is trying to justify piracy. PC gamers are just irritated because a company tried to screw us, and they got what was coming to them.

So if piracy isn't justified, then why do you say they had it coming ONE SENTENCE LATER? Quite a contradiction.

IW screamed "pirate our game", that doesn't necessarily mean what happened is right. No contradiction exists.
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The reason why it didnt sell good on Pc is because Most Pc gamers know when they are getting shafted unlike consolers. Consolers are use to these overhyped games that dont deliver and cheat you out of money. Pc gamers & community has higher standards. Between the games costing $10 more under a 3 hour SP, and an addon type of content MP fron Cod 4 its not worth it. Many people I know have stop playing MW2 because its alot like Cod4 which they get bored more easily. Some of them were like "why did I spend money on this"? I told them because you bought into the hype. 04dcarraher

Really? I overpayed GTA IV? Damn i knew i wasnt getting a good game for only $20

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#768 lowe0
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"] Noone is trying to justify piracy. PC gamers are just irritated because a company tried to screw us, and they got what was coming to them.

So if piracy isn't justified, then why do you say they had it coming ONE SENTENCE LATER? Quite a contradiction.

IW screamed "pirate our game", that doesn't necessarily mean what happened is right. No contradiction exists.

Please link to a quote from a IW staff member requesting that the game be pirated.
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#769 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Please link to a quote from a IW staff member requesting that the game be pirated.

*facepalm and exhausted sigh*
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#770 SLIisaownsystem
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Good Job those could be all sold units if IW wouldnt tread the community like trash

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#771 devious742
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LOL I was right and so were many other ppl.. when the pre order rank on amazon of MW 2 fell from 9 to 70-something because of the boycott... many ppl were saying that when the numbers come out and the sales are low... they are going to blame it on piracy instead of all the pc gamers who decided not to buy it because of the no dedicated servers/console port/high price dilemma.. i swear does everyone have amnesia around here.. i say that cause before this game was launched there were dozens of dont buy/if not buying the game post threads.many pc gamers outright claiming that they wrent buying the game .. hell consoles gamers were making fun of pc gamers for complaining..

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#772 skektek
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Piracy: the measure of people who are interested enough to try your product but not interested enough to buy your product.

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#773 lowe0
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Please link to a quote from a IW staff member requesting that the game be pirated.

*facepalm and exhausted sigh*

Good, we've established that IW didn't actually authorize piracy. They offered a product. They didn't spit in anyone's face, they didn't take anything away from anyone, they didn't ask for MW2 to be pirated - they just offered a new product. Just because you don't like the features, or even the lack thereof compared to the previous product (which still works exactly like it did before MW2 was announced) doesn't mean they have it (piracy) coming to them. Don't try to wave the "oh, I'd NEVER condone piracy" banner while simultaneously saying they had it coming.
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#774 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Good, we've established that IW didn't actually authorize piracy. They offered a product. They didn't spit in anyone's face, they didn't take anything away from anyone, they didn't ask for MW2 to be pirated - they just offered a new product. Just because you don't like the features, or even the lack thereof compared to the previous product (which still works exactly like it did before MW2 was announced) doesn't mean they have it (piracy) coming to them. Don't try to wave the "oh, I'd NEVER condone piracy" banner while simultaneously saying they had it coming.

*facepalm and violent, uncontrollable laugh* Consolite mind at work here. The standard "dont like it, dont bother with it" response. Having to rely on that because you run out of arguments is pretty sad.
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#775 t3hTwinky
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Good.

Infinity Ward has little interest in putting effort into their PC game, and PC gamers have little interest in giving Infinity Ward their money. Plenty of PC gamers saw this coming from a mile away.

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#776 Tasman_basic
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I think you got that backwards. No dedicated servers and no mod support (at first though I understand they backpedaled on that) = more piracy. They made it a single player experience so a lot of gamers when F that I'm just gonna pirate it.
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What do you expect from a washed down, lazy, stripped down port from a cocky, head in the sand developer? Also if any defenders of the PC version says 'OMG ITZ NOT A LAZY PORT IW CAREZ ABOUT U LOL.' Here's my proof they're lazy.

hg

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#778 lowe0
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Good, we've established that IW didn't actually authorize piracy. They offered a product. They didn't spit in anyone's face, they didn't take anything away from anyone, they didn't ask for MW2 to be pirated - they just offered a new product. Just because you don't like the features, or even the lack thereof compared to the previous product (which still works exactly like it did before MW2 was announced) doesn't mean they have it (piracy) coming to them. Don't try to wave the "oh, I'd NEVER condone piracy" banner while simultaneously saying they had it coming.

*facepalm and violent, uncontrollable laugh* Consolite mind at work here. The standard "dont like it, dont bother with it" response. Having to rely on that because you run out of arguments is pretty sad.

Do you have an actual argument against "don't like it, don't bother with it"? If you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. Hell, tell other people not to buy it. But it doesn't justify taking their work without compensation.
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#779 Trmpt
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What do you expect from a washed down, lazy, stripped down port from a cocky, head in the sand developer? Also if any defenders of the PC version says 'OMG ITZ NOT A LAZY PORT IW CAREZ ABOUT U LOL.' Here's my proof they're lazy.

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#780 painguy1
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Please link to a quote from a IW staff member requesting that the game be pirated.lowe0
*facepalm and exhausted sigh*

Good, we've established that IW didn't actually authorize piracy. They offered a product. They didn't spit in anyone's face, they didn't take anything away from anyone, they didn't ask for MW2 to be pirated - they just offered a new product. Just because you don't like the features, or even the lack thereof compared to the previous product (which still works exactly like it did before MW2 was announced) doesn't mean they have it (piracy) coming to them. Don't try to wave the "oh, I'd NEVER condone piracy" banner while simultaneously saying they had it coming.

there are no feature to like. also because of the lack of dedicated servers hackers are running ramped in the game. If we had dedicated servers we could easly boot the hacker or ban his IP from the server. With this P2P junk we cant. Seriously why would anyone want a stripped down port? look at the pic above. i mean seriously come on. If that isnt lazy then i dont know what is. This is just like the time when a Need for Speed Game for the 360 started to connect to PSN. IW got lazy. Im happy it got pirated. IW is treating every PC gamer like a pirate and in result everyone pirated it. seems fair to me.

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#781 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Do you have an actual argument against "don't like it, don't bother with it"? If you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. Hell, tell other people not to buy it. But it doesn't justify taking their work without compensation.

No, just no...morals, anyone? I can't believe someone has the guts to think this, of all things, is a proper argument to condemn piracy...
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#782 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Do you have an actual argument against "don't like it, don't bother with it"? If you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. Hell, tell other people not to buy it. But it doesn't justify taking their work without compensation.

There are plenty of logical, ethical arguments one could appeal to for piracy. Not that I condone piracy, but it is dishonest to deny there are some very supportable stances for it.
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#783 lowe0
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Do you have an actual argument against "don't like it, don't bother with it"? If you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. Hell, tell other people not to buy it. But it doesn't justify taking their work without compensation.

There are plenty of logical, ethical arguments one could appeal to for piracy. Not that I condone piracy, but it is dishonest to deny there are some very supportable stances for it.

Sure. A product that's out of print, or to work around DRM on a product you purchased, or perhaps a life-or-death situation (although that applies more to an anatomy textbook than a video game). I don't see any that apply in this situation, especially not "the new game isn't as good as the old game". The "insult to PC gamers" argument doesn't fly, either. You're still free to ignore them, or even to take all that money that would have gone to dedicated hosting companies and getting a giant "MW2 sucks - here's why" billboard outside IW HQ.
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#784 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="lowe0"] Sure. A product that's out of print, or to work around DRM on a product you purchased, or perhaps a life-or-death situation (although that applies more to an anatomy textbook than a video game). I don't see any that apply in this situation, especially not "the new game isn't as good as the old game". The "insult to PC gamers" argument doesn't fly, either. You're still free to ignore them, or even to take all that money that would have gone to dedicated hosting companies and getting a giant "MW2 sucks - here's why" billboard outside IW HQ.

I wouldn't have to appeal to any of those specific arguments. One may argue about the legal greyness when it comes to piracy, the idea of pro omnibus et singulis (which basically has things like software to be communal property), or any number of ethical theories like ethical egoism. There are indeed rational; legal, ethical and philosophical arguments which could be made to support piracy. Not that I support any of them.
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#785 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Good, we've established that IW didn't actually authorize piracy. They offered a product. They didn't spit in anyone's face, they didn't take anything away from anyone, they didn't ask for MW2 to be pirated - they just offered a new product. Just because you don't like the features, or even the lack thereof compared to the previous product (which still works exactly like it did before MW2 was announced) doesn't mean they have it (piracy) coming to them. Don't try to wave the "oh, I'd NEVER condone piracy" banner while simultaneously saying they had it coming. lowe0
*facepalm and violent, uncontrollable laugh* Consolite mind at work here. The standard "dont like it, dont bother with it" response. Having to rely on that because you run out of arguments is pretty sad.

Do you have an actual argument against "don't like it, don't bother with it"? If you don't think it's worth the money, don't buy it. Hell, tell other people not to buy it. But it doesn't justify taking their work without compensation.

Was there a demo to try it?

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#786 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Sure. A product that's out of print, or to work around DRM on a product you purchased, or perhaps a life-or-death situation (although that applies more to an anatomy textbook than a video game). I don't see any that apply in this situation, especially not "the new game isn't as good as the old game". The "insult to PC gamers" argument doesn't fly, either. You're still free to ignore them, or even to take all that money that would have gone to dedicated hosting companies and getting a giant "MW2 sucks - here's why" billboard outside IW HQ.

I wouldn't have to appeal to any of those specific arguments. One may argue about the legal greyness when it comes to piracy, the idea of pro omnibus et singulis (which basically has things like software to be communal property), or any number of ethical theories like ethical egoism. There are indeed rational; legal, ethical and philosophical arguments which could be made to support piracy. Not that I support any of them.

Can we even talk about ethics or morals in a capitalist enviroment where CEOs "compensate" themselves with millions of dollars leaving the economy in ruins completely unpunished? And their actions being BLESSED by the free market worshiping public?
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#787 AdrianWerner
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I think that even with dedicated servers the piracy number would be high. IMO the whole IW.net mess will not affect piracy all that much, it will however kill long term sales. So the effect of what IW did will be smaller sales, not bigger piracy

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#788 painguy1
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I think that even with dedicated servers the piracy number would be high. IMO the whole IW.net mess will not affect piracy all that much, it will however kill long term sales. So the effect of what IW did will be smaller sales, not bigger piracy

AdrianWerner

having dedicated servers would get rid of hackers. with p2p systems we cant boot players very easly. With dedicated servers a player can easly be voted out.

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#789 04dcarraher
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Why dont some of you face it that IW is just money crazy and gives you less for more money, Had two DLC's planed months before release, less features, crappy story, over the top hype and more of the same "core" gameplay that could have passed as an addon/expansion for Cod 4. Everyone I know who bought for 360 and Pc hardly play it after the first week or so because of short SP, MP not so different from Cod 4.
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#790 SLIisaownsystem
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Why dont some of you face it that IW is just money crazy and gives you less for more money, Had two DLC's planed months before release, less features, crappy story, over the top hype and more of the same "core" gameplay that could have passed as an addon/expansion for Cod 4. Everyone I know who bought for 360 and Pc hardly play it after the first week or so because of short SP, MP not so different from Cod 4.04dcarraher

because its a thread to bash PC gaming. Regardless if its a good situation since MW2 isnt really worth the money. Console player should ask them self why they bought MW2 so much.

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#791 Enosh88
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Had two DLC's planed months before release.04dcarraher

looking at your sig the irony is killing me

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#792 BloodSeeker1337
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IMO Maybe If Modern Warfare 2 was a better game = That includes dedicated servers. Maybe people wouldn't pirate it because of the great multilayer
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#793 Enosh88
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IMO Maybe If Modern Warfare 2 was a better game = That includes dedicated servers. Maybe people wouldn't pirate it because of the great multilayer BloodSeeker1337

bull****

it's a popular game, people would pirate it even if it would have the best MPever

we will see SC2 pirate numbers next year, I expect them to also be around 4 to 5 million

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#794 mccoyca112
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Fail, you cannot count the number of downloads and say that is how many sales were lost.

That said, excuse me if I don't shed a tear for a game that treated PC gamers like trash.

AnnoyedDragon

Couldnt have said it better myself. They did it to themselves.

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#795 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="BloodSeeker1337"]IMO Maybe If Modern Warfare 2 was a better game = That includes dedicated servers. Maybe people wouldn't pirate it because of the great multilayer Enosh88

bull****

it's a popular game, people would pirate it even if it would have the best MPever

we will see SC2 pirate numbers next year, I expect them to also be around 4 to 5 million

While there focusing on the pirate department, does MW2 sell better then the first for PC?

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#796 ColdfireTrilogy
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And people here wonder why IW decides not to have dedicated servers on the PC etc... Nobody takes PC gaming seriously anymore.

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"As 2009 is slowly moving toward its end, we follow up our most pirated movies chart by taking a look at the most pirated games of the year. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is the absolute winner on the PC and Xbox 360, while New Super Mario Bros. scoops the title of most pirated Wii game of 2009."

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"With 4.1 million unauthorized downloads of the PC version alone, the game more than doubles the achievement of last year's 'winner' Spore. Modern Warfare 2 leads both the PC and Xbox 360 lists, by a landslide.

The overall trend across all platforms is that, unlike last year, all of the games are 2009 releases. What makes Modern Warfare 2's chart-topping even more impressive is that this has been achieved after just two months of availability. We further see that the figures for the most downloaded titles have more than doubled compared to last year, equaling the growth in uTorrent users.

PC games are by far the most downloaded titles, with on average more than three times the number of downloads compared to Xbox 360 and Wii releases. As expected, Mario titles are in high demand on the Wii.

The data for these lists is collected by TorrentFreak from several sources, including reports from all public BitTorrent trackers. All the data is carefully checked and possible inaccuracies are systematically corrected."

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PC gaming clearly is dying. If this is the future of it, then I don't see PC gaming making a profit or being a serious contender in gaming business in 2010 and forward --- >

ZAGAV3
honestly .. i bought COD4 because the MP rocked. I know a majority of my friends are playing on the pirated MP servers for MW2 and wow watching them play settled in stone that my reasons for not buying it were correct. Constant hacks, host migration ALL THE FRIGGEN TIME, and massive amounts of sporadic lag with a constant lag going on at all times. Just fire a shotgun and you can visibly see the difference between a shotgun fire and a shotgun hit, its noticable in milliseconds. And for those that say its only the pirated MP ... i have one friend who owns it and its identical all the way down to the rampant and unstopable hacking. I go back and play COD4 on my server and never have any issues with lag or hackers given my clan and I ban them as they come.
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#797 ColdfireTrilogy
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[QUOTE="ZAGAV3"]

And people here wonder why IW decides not to have dedicated servers on the PC etc... Nobody takes PC gaming seriously anymore.KungfuKitten

The wrong way around. Nobody takes IW seriously anymore.

second that. except add "worthwhile" to that statement. Nobody worthwhile takes IW seriously.