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#1 XturnalS
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http://www.giantbomb.com/news/hands-on-with-modern-warfare-2s-multiplayer/1685/

Wow well if you were planning on getting this, this will probably sway you in favor and if you weren't (like I) this will be more reason for you not to.

I'm sorry but death streak rewards? secondary weapons standard? Giving away XP for doing non-spectacular things like candy?

Noob central confirmed thankfully the MAG beta starts tomorrow and I can play that till Nov. then go back to KZ2. Thanks for saving me $60 bucks IW.

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#2 Trinners
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A game that rewards bad players is a bad game. I think I'll pass.

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#3 SpinoRaptor24
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Rewarding players for dying by giving them more health? Who came up with that bright idea?

Huh. Probably the same guy who came up with Martyrdom.

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#4 Episode_Eve
Member since 2004 • 16986 Posts

WTF? This sounds weird.

Dang, well you're right Box. That makes me want to play it even less lol. I'll def. be watching my lil bro play though.

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#5 ThatsSimtastic
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Death streaks, thats weak...

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#6 Immortal_Evil
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lol..you guys...

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#7 Immortal_Evil
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lol..you guys...

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#8 jonesy1911
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stunned at the death streaks, thats going to get abused online.
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#9 Big_Red_Button
Member since 2005 • 6094 Posts

Wow, that's pretty lame.

It's gone from a game played by newbs to a game designed for newbs...

Being someone who gets a kill streak every life I'm not looking forward to every noob I pwn taking an entire clip to put down because the game was too hard for them.

And the two weapon business pretty much negates the tactical value of choosing the proper gun- now everyone can have a sniper and an SMG without sacrificing a perk slot.

LAAAAAAME.

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#10 Mordred19
Member since 2007 • 8259 Posts

Okay so having 2 completely decked-out guns at once is standard? Not a perk?

and like everyone else has said... DEATH STREAKS? Seriously? :?

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#11 biggest_loser
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Ha-ha! I like these new features!! :D
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#12 Cherokee_Jack
Member since 2008 • 32198 Posts
Very interesting. I for one will wait until I play the game to decide whether Death Streaks will be unbalancing or not.
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#13 jwsoul
Member since 2005 • 5472 Posts

Sounds good but no open beta + Not allowing reviewers to even get hold of it and the increased cost!

Sounds like these guys are going for maximum money making from the word go and a lot of people could be buying a flop when this game is released.

As a matter of fact i hope the game is rubbish to put these people back in place.

No Zombie mode is a shame as well.

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#14 Cherokee_Jack
Member since 2008 • 32198 Posts
As a matter of fact i hope the game is rubbish to put these people back in place.jwsoul
Which people, exactly? Activision? Infinity Ward will be the ones hurting the most if the game turns out bad.
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#15 Episode_Eve
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I wonder why they opted not to do a beta? Maybe they think internal testing would be enough. This could potentially fuel the argument that it's MW 1.5 lol.
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#16 No_Quoter
Member since 2008 • 281 Posts
Finaly I may have a chance now with my extra health advantage.
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#17 II_Seraphim_II
Member since 2007 • 20534 Posts

Rewarding players for dying by giving them more health? Who came up with that bright idea?

Huh. Probably the same guy who came up with Martyrdom.

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lol, so true. Martyrdom is one of the most idiotic features in the history of video games. It's the ultimate noob weapon.
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#18 Maqda7
Member since 2008 • 3299 Posts
I was on the fence with this game but now i'm definetly not going to buy the game. Shame, since I love CoD4.
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#19 Malta_1980
Member since 2008 • 11890 Posts

i'm still looking forward to MW2...

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#20 dakan45
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TC you think MAG is gonna be better than this? Ok lets see, but i played mag and i cant tell you it felt terrible, i was unloading tons of ammo on a single enemy.
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#21 def_mode
Member since 2005 • 4237 Posts

the closer this game to the release date, the more noobish/lame information we get.

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#22 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]TC you think MAG is gonna be better than this? Ok lets see, but i played mag and i cant tell you it felt terrible, i was unloading tons of ammo on a single enemy.

Dude...DEATH STREAKS :|?
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#23 dakan45
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:( I like death streaks....
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#24 hot114
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A game that rewards bad players is a bad game. I think I'll pass.

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seriousl how is this any diverent from the original that was highly acclaimed and still is one of the best online shooters this gen You simply can not make a competetive ranking system without penaltys for death streaks or being killed by lower ranked players and seeing as none of the high profile online games this gen had any penaltys you are saying they are all bad games?
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#25 campbell1874
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[QUOTE="dakan45"]TC you think MAG is gonna be better than this? Ok lets see, but i played mag and i cant tell you it felt terrible, i was unloading tons of ammo on a single enemy.II_Seraphim_II
Dude...DEATH STREAKS :|?

If a player needs to includes the perk death streaks then they must not be a good player and are not going to cause me that big of a problem. They have to die 4 times before they get the Copycat perk which only give them the same guns and perks that the last person who killed them have got.

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#26 IAmLegend7
Member since 2007 • 287 Posts
Waah waaaah waaaaah. It's all I hear from these forums. Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple, no? Day 1 pre-order ftw! Actually, I might even have to buy two copies so I can give one to my brother.
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#27 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="dakan45"]TC you think MAG is gonna be better than this? Ok lets see, but i played mag and i cant tell you it felt terrible, i was unloading tons of ammo on a single enemy.campbell1874

Dude...DEATH STREAKS :|?

If a player needs to includes the perk death streaks then they must not be a good player and are not going to cause me that big of a problem. They have to die 4 times before they get the Copycat perk which only give them the same guns and perks that the last person who killed them have got.

Come on man, that's weaksauce reasoning. That's like saying "well so what if the game has crap story, I can just ignore it!"
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#28 bobbetybob
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Deathstreaks sound fine to me, as long as it only lasts for one life. Rest of it sounds pretty freaking awesome to me.
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#30 campbell1874
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[QUOTE="campbell1874"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] Dude...DEATH STREAKS :|?II_Seraphim_II

If a player needs to includes the perk death streaks then they must not be a good player and are not going to cause me that big of a problem. They have to die 4 times before they get the Copycat perk which only give them the same guns and perks that the last person who killed them have got.

Come on man, that's weaksauce reasoning. That's like saying "well so what if the game has crap story, I can just ignore it!"

NoI wassaying if the other player is that bad then give them the extra health and i will still sneak up on the noob and blow their head off.

*For anyone who hasn't seen the story on the GS front page. The 360 version will have the DLC maps first. It also highlight anyone in your XBL party with a different colour name.

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#31 tbolt76
Member since 2008 • 987 Posts

Nothing in there is going to disuade me from getting and enjoying this game. Death streaks, who cares. Secondary weapons, well that is just overkill implemented differently. The game looks goods and sounds like fun. from what I have been reading, the game pretty much the same, with a bunch of added features. That is what I am looking for in a sequel. I don't want a FPS to turn into a top down platformer. The funny thing is that all of these MW2 hate threads are being created by people who have absolutely no intention of buying it.

Also, why is everyone looking at one thing they don't like and whining about it, and all of the things that were asked for, more weapons, multiple attachments, anti-camping equipment etc., get no mention?

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#32 Arjdagr8
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hmmm...death streaks seem a bit weak. Also to those who are crying CASUAL, and NEWB FRIENDLY LULZ! maybe they aren't looking to create a game with a steep learning curve, maybe...just maybe they want the game to be fun whether or not you lose. It's not like it takes absolutely no skill to play but i'll admit its easier to get into than most fpses. But man this game's multiplayer is so much more full than most games multiplayer these days.

Also don't like the idea of having two major weapons as opposed to primary and a pistol. It just seems like way too much firepower.

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#33 xxyetixx
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I play Hardcore so hopefully the death streak will not be a problem if it starts taking an entire clip to drop people in Hardcore like it does core that will be really disappointing. As long as the spawning is not like COD:WAW there shouldn't be too many times were I die3 times in a row with out killing someone.

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#34 Mckenna1845
Member since 2005 • 4410 Posts
meh, it could either make it slightly fairer on bad players or completely ruin it... i don't really care for cod's online i'll just play the single player campaign and move on. halo odst and uncharted 2 will get my attention this holiday season.
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#35 nhh18
Member since 2009 • 6538 Posts

Death streak sounds pretty good. COD4 problem was competition due to newer players getting slaughter by older players because of that stupid perk system. Allowing new players to die 4 timse and then obtain the same weapons even the playing field making me (I don't play fps that much I was good at cod4 in the eearly stages but bad later on because of the perk system) would make it easie ron me to compete.

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#36 ForceFreeze
Member since 2008 • 823 Posts

I have never heard of a game that actively rewards the player for multiple-deaths in a row :|

Utterly horrid design choice

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#37 Cyberfairy
Member since 2003 • 5180 Posts

wow this sounds horrible. So they've added tons of more explosives with more killstreaks, and now they've added two heavy weapons and death streeks? Pass.

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#38 Dante2710
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this game is going to be so broken.......reminds me of the frag fest cod4 is.
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#39 mtradr43
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all good additions. everyone complaining about the death streaks should read that section again. nothing there is gamebreaking, just helps people who are in a bad streak to get a kill and get going again. customizable killstreaks and further customizable loadout, who wouldnt want that? they expanded on every single thing in the mp, all for the better. i cant find one thing wrong in that article that im not going to enjoy.
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#40 xxyetixx
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all good additions. everyone complaining about the death streaks should read that section again. nothing there is gamebreaking, just helps people who are in a bad streak to get a kill and get going again. customizable killstreaks and further customizable loadout, who wouldnt want that? they expanded on every single thing in the mp, all for the better. i cant find one thing wrong in that article that im not going to enjoy.mtradr43

I think so also it's great that you can customize the killstreaks now not everyone on your team will have UAV I hate when I throw on my UAV and then like 2 more people throw theres up while mine is still up. If you play with a group of friends like I do there is a lot more strategy involved with all the customozation.

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#41 Verge_6
Member since 2007 • 20282 Posts

This is officially the noobiest shooter ever created in gaming history. Are they trying to make it viable for five year olds to do well in it now?

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#43 TruedUp
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Wow, that's pretty lame.

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Thats pretty much all I had to say...
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#44 rolo107
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Rewarding players for dying by giving them more health? Who came up with that bright idea?

Huh. Probably the same guy who came up with Martyrdom.

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Um... Prevents spawn killing. It's a great idea. They aren't really great advantages. The ones announced so far, nothing like perks... But the haters will hate on anything, and the people who like the game will actually critically examine the game. If you've been to the forums you'd know that. There's almost as much hate there as there is here, from fans...
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#45 TREAL_Since
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Realistic or not. Nooby or not. The new features are amazing. This will be a fun 'video game'. Accessible to many people and still has stuff to reward serious and skilled players. What shooter do you know rewards everyone? COD6 is quite possibly the only shooter of it's kind on the market. I'd like to add that I won't be playing it much probably, I will watch my lil bro play and crush people. COD is a very entertaining franchise. I recognize what they are adding and I appreciate it.
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#46 TREAL_Since
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IAmLegend7"]Waah waaaah waaaaah. It's all I hear from these forums. Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple, no? Day 1 pre-order ftw! Actually, I might even have to buy two copies so I can give one to my brother.

You are Bobby Kotick's favorite kind of customer. How does it feel?

I respect and support Infinity Ward's effort and talent. A shame that Kotick of Activision just happens to run the show.
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#47 KingTuttle
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I am laughing at the deathstreak complaints. Weren't these the same people saying it was waaaay too easy to just own people in Cod4? Aren't these the same people complaining about unlocks and high level players being too powerful over newer players? Wouldn't this add a little challenge the so called elite FPS shooter folks I see ranting on here?

Oh well I thought it was a good preview and am definitely getting it.

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#48 TruedUp
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[QUOTE="KingTuttle"]

I am laughing at the deathstreak complaints. Weren't these the same people saying it was waaaay too easy to just own people in Cod4? Aren't these the same people complaining about unlocks and high level players being too powerful over newer players? Wouldn't this add a little challenge the so called elite FPS shooter folks I see ranting on here?

Oh well I thought it was a good preview and am definitely getting it.

I think its more of the idea itself behind this feature that doesnt make sense. Sure, it levels the playing field a bit by giving the "losing" team/players some leverage, but just the thought of rewarding players for dying a lot is kind of out there...
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#49 angelkimne
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I'll probably rent it for the sp, they don't seem to be doing enough about the unbalancing issues in the multiplayer to make it worth full price.
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#50 Verge_6
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I am laughing at the deathstreak complaints. Weren't these the same people saying it was waaaay too easy to just own people in Cod4? KingTuttle
You act like the ability to easily own people online somehow negates death perk complaints. Don't you see the circular logic here?