Modern Warfare 2 will be the next game to melt faces and destroy villages...56k

...With extreme awesomeness. Modern Warfare 2 is like Cthulhu with Blackbeard combined to spawn a video game equal to their awesomeness.

In all seriousness...

Watch this before commenting at least since I know most System Wars posters don't get past the topic title:

Now I don't understand the complaints against Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 so I'm gonna try to refute them all. I welcome haters. Hating on good games should be a crime if you don't have any reason to.

1. I don't understand this notion of Modern Rehash 2. This game has a totally new story, totally new co-op mode and a totally revamped online mode where they scrapped old perks and brought in new ideas. If you listened to the idea of death streaks, the idea is very good and if it doesn't work, IW will patch it...They still tweak MW after all and patches exist. You do realize though, if you're a skilled player in the first place, death streaks mean nothing so why should we, hardcore gamers (most of us at least), be worried about that. This game isn't being rehashed and it's not being casualized. It's bringing in new ideas and it's expanding on some aspects and focusing in on others.

2. What's with all the hate for IW? IW =/= Activision's evil lord Bobby Kotick. Bobby Kotick is a dunce but IW is a totally seperate entity. IW is a AAA developer, they made Call of Duty, CAll of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4, and now this game. Those are all great games, almost all of them AAA. MW2 is their most ambitious game yet and if you look at the newest trailer they are clearly working on giving the best FPS Campaign possible, I mean come on. Give me one single player FPS this year that compares to it? Killzone 2's major feature was it's well done online, not it's lackluster campaign...

3. Bobby Kotick isn't making this game...If you don't like Activison just buy it used!

4. There are no Day 1 map packs, they are coming in April

5. Special Forces is gonna be the best co-op mode to be in a game ever. You have my word...And my bow...And my a...Sorry...

6. The game look fine, Call of Duty is meant to run at 60FPS. The graphics are fine, it's not UC2 but it's gorgeous still. Just look at the art ****of the DC level...

MW2 and UC2, GOTY 2009

Anyone else sick of the hate MW2 is getting?

I'll tell you what is something to be wary of though and it's that silly Modern Warfare port for the Wii Treyarch is making! Two years too late... That's the thing to avoid. MW2 is a game to embrace. I couldn't add this on to my post cause of HTML

Sorry but Arma 2 already melted my face... :P

Anyways, this game doesn't appeal to me. Is that so wrong?

Sorry but Arma 2 already melted my face... :P

Anyways, this game doesn't appeal to me. Is that so wrong?

psn8214

The most casual game coming out this year!

Even though I disagree with some of Activisons business practices, this won't prevent me from buying the game

The spot on controls, near perfect shooting mechanics, addictive mulitplayer = first day buy for me

It looks alright, my bro is obsessed with it, so if he ever gets off of it, I will play.

The most casual game coming out this year!

Mr_Nordquist

I just think MW1 had really, really bad game design. Like, whenever there was a scripted event, I was like "OH awesome!!" and then there would be gameplay, and I said "meh." It had some cool **** in it, but when you strip that stuff out, the core gameplay wasn't any good IMO.

And MW2 looks like exactly the same. Cool **** going down, but the gameplay looks bland.

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

The most casual game coming out this year!

Toriko42

Ez mode games = casual.

The proof is right there in the death streak rewards.

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

The most casual game coming out this year!

Toriko42

In all seriousness...

Watch this before commenting at least since I know most System Wars posters don't get past the topic title:

Now I don't understand the complaints against Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 so I'm gonna try to refute them all. I welcome haters. Hating on good games should be a crime if you don't have any reason to.

1. I don't understand this notion of Modern Rehash 2. This game has a totally new story, totally new co-op mode and a totally revamped online mode where they scrapped old perks and brought in new ideas. If you listened to the idea of death streaks, the idea is very good and if it doesn't work, IW will patch it...They still tweak MW after all and patches exist. You do realize though, if you're a skilled player in the first place, death streaks mean nothing so why should we, hardcore gamers (most of us at least), be worried about that. This game isn't being rehashed and it's not being casualized. It's bringing in new ideas and it's expanding on some aspects and focusing in on others.

2. What's with all the hate for IW? IW =/= Activision's evil lord Bobby Kotick. Bobby Kotick is a dunce but IW is a totally seperate entity. IW is a AAA developer, they made Call of Duty, CAll of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4, and now this game. Those are all great games, almost all of them AAA. MW2 is their most ambitious game yet and if you look at the newest trailer they are clearly working on giving the best FPS Campaign possible, I mean come on. Give me one single player FPS this year that compares to it? Killzone 2's major feature was it's well done online, not it's lackluster campaign...

3. Bobby Kotick isn't making this game...If you don't like Activison just buy it used!

4. There are no Day 1 map packs, they are coming in April

5. Special Forces is gonna be the best co-op mode to be in a game ever. You have my word...And my bow...And my a...Sorry...

6. The game look fine, Call of Duty is meant to run at 60FPS. The graphics are fine, it's not UC2 but it's gorgeous still. Just look at the art ****of the DC level...

MW2 and UC2, GOTY 2009

Anyone else sick of the hate MW2 is getting?

Toriko42

1. They're not completely new. The story is a continuation from the last game, the characters in the last game are still here. And wtf about patches. If you're making a game with features you're not even sure people will welcome or not, you don't leave the possibility of taking them out later on, you just don't put them there. Thats like saying they took the risk of making CoD4 a modern shooter, and if in case people aren't going to like it, we're going to put a patch in there to make the game back into a ww2 shooter....:?

2 and 3. IW is clearly being subjected into doing the publisher's corporate biddings. And yes if I do become interested in the game, I will be buying it used, but currently I'm still not interested in the game, because I played all the previous call of duty games and I'm pretty sure how this game will turn out. I'm not saying thats exactly a bad thing, just that I don't need to play this game.

4. IW has a horrible DLC history, but again thats mostly Activision's problem.

5. I really doubt you played the co op already.

6. Not gonna comment, I don't have an opinion on the game's visuals.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]

The most casual game coming out this year!

SilverChimera

lol... Why couldn't they actually do something like put Ktulu in as a boos.. How mindblowing would that be

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

In all seriousness...

Watch this before commenting at least since I know most System Wars posters don't get past the topic title:

Now I don't understand the complaints against Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 so I'm gonna try to refute them all. I welcome haters. Hating on good games should be a crime if you don't have any reason to.

1. I don't understand this notion of Modern Rehash 2. This game has a totally new story, totally new co-op mode and a totally revamped online mode where they scrapped old perks and brought in new ideas. If you listened to the idea of death streaks, the idea is very good and if it doesn't work, IW will patch it...They still tweak MW after all and patches exist. You do realize though, if you're a skilled player in the first place, death streaks mean nothing so why should we, hardcore gamers (most of us at least), be worried about that. This game isn't being rehashed and it's not being casualized. It's bringing in new ideas and it's expanding on some aspects and focusing in on others.

2. What's with all the hate for IW? IW =/= Activision's evil lord Bobby Kotick. Bobby Kotick is a dunce but IW is a totally seperate entity. IW is a AAA developer, they made Call of Duty, CAll of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4, and now this game. Those are all great games, almost all of them AAA. MW2 is their most ambitious game yet and if you look at the newest trailer they are clearly working on giving the best FPS Campaign possible, I mean come on. Give me one single player FPS this year that compares to it? Killzone 2's major feature was it's well done online, not it's lackluster campaign...

3. Bobby Kotick isn't making this game...If you don't like Activison just buy it used!

4. There are no Day 1 map packs, they are coming in April

5. Special Forces is gonna be the best co-op mode to be in a game ever. You have my word...And my bow...And my a...Sorry...

6. The game look fine, Call of Duty is meant to run at 60FPS. The graphics are fine, it's not UC2 but it's gorgeous still. Just look at the art ****of the DC level...

MW2 and UC2, GOTY 2009

Anyone else sick of the hate MW2 is getting?

PSdual_wielder

1. They're not completely new. The story is a continuation from the last game, the characters in the last game are still here. And wtf about patches. If you're making a game with features you're not even sure people will welcome or not, you don't leave the possibility of taking them out later on, you just don't put them there. Thats like saying they took the risk of making CoD4 a modern shooter, and if in case people aren't going to like it, we're going to put a patch in there to make the game back into a ww2 shooter....:?

2 and 3. IW is clearly being subjected into doing the publisher's corporate biddings. And yes if I do become interested in the game, I will be buying it used, but currently I'm still not interested in the game, because I played all the previous call of duty games and I'm pretty sure how this game will turn out. I'm not saying thats exactly a bad thing, just that I don't need to play this game.

4. IW has a horrible DLC history, but again thats mostly Activision's problem.

5. I really doubt you played the co op already.

6. Not gonna comment, I don't have an opinion on the game's visuals.

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Explain, I don't see how this game is any less 'hardcore' then Killzone 2 other then the fact that this game is going to sell far more copies (because COD is a better series?) It doesn't beat out games like Battlefield on PC, Resistance, and Halo but COD games made by IW are epic and hardly casual. Since when does popularity = casual. No one called Super Mario Brothers casual even though it's one of the most popular games ever. Toriko42

You said something like "if kz2 gets a 9.0 I'll dance in a swimsuit or doing something equally embarrassing", there was even a thread about it with someone quoting you in his sig.

But did you ever keep your word?

[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] if you've played killzone 2 and cod4 you'll know... cod4 is one of the most noob friendly games I've played. It got so annoying. and CAMPERS! EVERYWHERE! wtf IW... claymores?... that killed the game. and S&D was just stupid with frag lobbing across the map 15 seconds into the round. and don't even get me started on LMGs. and referring to the OP, how can I have your word when you said KZ2 will get an A score "guaranteed" (or was that someone else?)PSdual_wielder

You said something like "if kz2 gets a 9.0 I'll dance in a swimsuit or doing something equally embarrassing", there was even a thread about it with someone quoting you in his sig.

But did you ever keep your word?

And I stand behind that statement. KZ2 is average. Nice online, boring SP mode...It deserves 8.0 on it's Online and alright SP mode but it's nothing fancy. It has a nice gloss of paint though.

Give me Resistance 2 over that game anyday.

i agree. but it wouldnt hurt them make the campaign longer. its going to be a sick single player but a short one at that. also i want big tacticle maps for onces. you can only run n gun on a map the size of a playground for so long. it gets boring. i need a reason to talk on the mic and work as a team.

i agree. but it wouldnt hurt them make the campaign longer. its going to be a sick single player but a short one at that. also i want big tacticle maps for onces. you can only run n gun on a map the size of a playground for so long. it gets boring. i need a reason to talk on the mic and work as a team.

Revolution316

1. I know it's a continuation but this story they're doing in this one is totally new in scope for the series. It's mad ambitious. And it's not the same thing to patch a small feature as opposed to a whole game so :? 2. I can't argue, personal taste is personal taste 4. IW only put out one map pack for MW bare in mind, Treyarch has put out...3? Different developers. 5. Alright but I know it's gonna be awesome just like how I'm sure I'll enjoy UC2's co-op without playing anything from it 6. That's fine Toriko42

1. I wouldn't call it 'mad ambitious' since the footages shown thus far aren't even that impressive, the snow level at E3 was nowhere near as tense as when the sniper mission in MW1 was shown off for the first time at E3 07. The levels have more space to them in this game, which definitely opens up some flexibility in the gameplay, but its also been confirmed that the total length of the SP isn't going to be much longer than MW1. So....yeah.

4. I'm sure with this game there's going to be more map packs than the previous IW games, but I wouldn't put my game-buying decisions on the possibility of getting to pay even more money later on.

5. Yep, UC2's co op is damn fun, had a great night with a buddy on the weekend playing co op arena.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] 1. I know it's a continuation but this story they're doing in this one is totally new in scope for the series. It's mad ambitious. And it's not the same thing to patch a small feature as opposed to a whole game so :? 2. I can't argue, personal taste is personal taste 4. IW only put out one map pack for MW bare in mind, Treyarch has put out...3? Different developers. 5. Alright but I know it's gonna be awesome just like how I'm sure I'll enjoy UC2's co-op without playing anything from it 6. That's fine PSdual_wielder

1. I wouldn't call it 'mad ambitious' since the footages shown thus far aren't even that impressive, the snow level at E3 was nowhere near as tense as when the sniper mission in MW1 was shown off for the first time at E3 07. The levels have more space to them in this game, which definitely opens up some flexibility in the gameplay, but its also been confirmed that the total length of the SP isn't going to be much longer than MW1. So....yeah.

4. I'm sure with this game there's going to be more map packs than the previous IW games, but I wouldn't put my game-buying decisions on the possibility of getting to pay even more money later on.

5. Yep, UC2's co op is damn fun, had a great night with a buddy on the weekend playing co op arena.

Give me Resistance 2 over that game anyday.

Toriko42

eh, thats ok, I know the 2 games' online was compared a lot. Personally I think both were great but neither had the staying power for me, but thats more due to my lack of interest in online shooters. But thats all going to change soon with MAG.

Not casualized? :lol:

come back when you have valid evidence.

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

Give me Resistance 2 over that game anyday.

PSdual_wielder

eh, thats ok, I know the 2 games' online was compared a lot. Personally I think both were great but neither had the staying power for me, but thats more due to my lack of interest in online shooters. But thats all going to change soon with MAG.

What does it having a new story have to do with anything? They've been rehashing the game since the first iteration in the series. I still remember when I first tried Call of Duty 4... it felt exactly like the gameplay in CoD. Except a lot less rewarding.

[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] 1. I know it's a continuation but this story they're doing in this one is totally new in scope for the series. It's mad ambitious. And it's not the same thing to patch a small feature as opposed to a whole game so :? 2. I can't argue, personal taste is personal taste 4. IW only put out one map pack for MW bare in mind, Treyarch has put out...3? Different developers. 5. Alright but I know it's gonna be awesome just like how I'm sure I'll enjoy UC2's co-op without playing anything from it 6. That's fine Toriko42

1. I wouldn't call it 'mad ambitious' since the footages shown thus far aren't even that impressive, the snow level at E3 was nowhere near as tense as when the sniper mission in MW1 was shown off for the first time at E3 07. The levels have more space to them in this game, which definitely opens up some flexibility in the gameplay, but its also been confirmed that the total length of the SP isn't going to be much longer than MW1. So....yeah.

4. I'm sure with this game there's going to be more map packs than the previous IW games, but I wouldn't put my game-buying decisions on the possibility of getting to pay even more money later on.

5. Yep, UC2's co op is damn fun, had a great night with a buddy on the weekend playing co op arena.

The big secret is it's probably 2 hours long. So epic it's the same length as a movie!!

Comparing anything with Cthulhu? Only Call of Cthulhu can survive that. :P .tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Comparing anything with Cthulhu? Only Call of Cthulhu can survive that. :P .dimebag667

....I think they were referring to the story.

I'm pretty excited. Hated the first MW, but this one looks like it fixed all the problems - maybe that's why everyone is b****ing?

What does it having a new story have to do with anything? They've been rehashing the game since the first iteration in the series. I still remember when I first tried Call of Duty 4... it felt exactly like the gameplay in CoD. Except a lot less rewarding.

foxhound_fox

I do agree with this. Call of Duty 4 literally felt like Call of Duty 2 with a shiny new gun on the bottom half of the screen..

Lemmings looking at PS3 library and starting to hide behind multiplats. Pathetic.

Watch_My_6

I just think that BF:BC2 is going to be better, so I'm saving my fps jitters for that.

First off yes I'm going to get MW2. But here are the things that irk me about MW2.

1. Short campaign. Yes while it will be fun 6 freaking hours come on.

2. 2 player co-op??? I'm sorry but the supposedly inferior Teryarch was able to make a 4 player co-op campaign but IW couldn't come on.

3. DLC in April. So that means if the almighty IW really wanted to they could have put it on the disc. Milkage??? What say you???

4 DLC map packs issue 2. I hope they support it way better then they did for MW. Once again Teryarch delivered is IW going to man up???

5. Zombie hunt/Horde/Gold Rush What happened here IW it seems all recent games have some kind of survival mode but what you guys were to busy???

Its hard to understand sometimes why MW2 gets so much hate...

For me its a day one purchase, i dont care if the sp is short, as long as its action-packed and fun thats fine with me... In the end i know i'll spend countless hours playing online and thats what i'm looking forward to :)

Its hard to understand sometimes why MW2 gets so much hate...

For me its a day one purchase, i dont care if the sp is short, as long as its action-packed and fun thats fine with me... In the end i know i'll spend countless hours playing online and thats what i'm looking forward to :)

I'm in no haste to buy it.

If I ever get it, I'm either renting it or purchasing it second hand.

I'm not giving a cent to Activision.

...With extreme awesomeness. Modern Warfare 2 is like Cthulhu with Blackbeard combined to spawn a video game equal to their awesomeness.

In all seriousness...

Watch this before commenting at least since I know most System Wars posters don't get past the topic title:

Now I don't understand the complaints against Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 so I'm gonna try to refute them all. I welcome haters. Hating on good games should be a crime if you don't have any reason to.

1. I don't understand this notion of Modern Rehash 2. This game has a totally new story, totally new co-op mode and a totally revamped online mode where they scrapped old perks and brought in new ideas. If you listened to the idea of death streaks, the idea is very good and if it doesn't work, IW will patch it...They still tweak MW after all and patches exist. You do realize though, if you're a skilled player in the first place, death streaks mean nothing so why should we, hardcore gamers (most of us at least), be worried about that. This game isn't being rehashed and it's not being casualized. It's bringing in new ideas and it's expanding on some aspects and focusing in on others.

2. What's with all the hate for IW? IW =/= Activision's evil lord Bobby Kotick. Bobby Kotick is a dunce but IW is a totally seperate entity. IW is a AAA developer, they made Call of Duty, CAll of Duty 2, Call of Duty 4, and now this game. Those are all great games, almost all of them AAA. MW2 is their most ambitious game yet and if you look at the newest trailer they are clearly working on giving the best FPS Campaign possible, I mean come on. Give me one single player FPS this year that compares to it? Killzone 2's major feature was it's well done online, not it's lackluster campaign...

3. Bobby Kotick isn't making this game...If you don't like Activison just buy it used!

4. There are no Day 1 map packs, they are coming in April

5. Special Forces is gonna be the best co-op mode to be in a game ever. You have my word...And my bow...And my a...Sorry...

6. The game look fine, Call of Duty is meant to run at 60FPS. The graphics are fine, it's not UC2 but it's gorgeous still. Just look at the art ****of the DC level...

MW2 and UC2, GOTY 2009

Anyone else sick of the hate MW2 is getting?

Toriko42

Agreed 110% mate! Going to be picking this game up in November, along with Uncharted 2. :)

I hate when a TC ignores a persons post lol.:P