Modern Warfare 2 will render at 600p

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#51 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sub-HD looks terrible. Can't stand it. mitu123

Half the games this gen on 360 and PS3 are sub HD, I wish for 1280x720(720p), but they'll have to sacrifice the framerate and graphical features for that depending on the game.

If Assassin's Creed can get away with looking as good as it does with 720p and 2x AA - I start to think that some developers just don't try hard enough.
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#52 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]Sub-HD looks terrible. Can't stand it. KHAndAnime

Half the games this gen on 360 and PS3 are sub HD, I wish for 1280x720(720p), but they'll have to sacrifice the framerate and graphical features for that depending on the game.

If Assassin's Creed can get away with looking as good as it does with 720p and 2x AA - I start to think that some developers just don't try hard enough.

Yep, it depends on the coding, graphical effects and framerate, was Assassin's Creed in 60FPS or 30FPS, I never played it, yet.
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#53 striking_
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Oh well, I play on a 20 inch sd tv so it makes no difference to me. besides lots of games play on sub HD this gen its not that bad.

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#54 NemeSyS-1
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The funny thing about all of this is all of these people who brag about the PS3's higher video output capabilities and that a 1080p HDTV is "an absolute necessity" to truely enjoy games this generation and yet we have unbelieveable looking games like Gears of War, Uncharted, Halo 3, Mass Effect, CoD 4 and others and none, not one of them runs at a resolution higher than 720p and in fact I believe maybe only uncharted runs at 720.

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#55 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="porky_ownsu"]

600p + 60fps = perfect.

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what would 1280x720p + 60fps = super perfect?

Infinite p and infinite fps = super perfect
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#56 Riverwolf007
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idc, i'd rather have it run smoothly

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#57 beast667
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So did CoD4, and when it came out that didn't stop a lot of people from saying it was the best looking game out there (not me, though)
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#58 musicalmac  Moderator
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It's still going to look fantastic. Don't get wrapped up in numbers.
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#59 rolo107
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Don't care, it's graphically impressive to me, and it is 60FPS. I didn't care that Halo was Sub-HD nor did I care about MGS4 being Sub-HD.
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#60 DarkGamer007
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[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.pyromaniac223
if its a solid 30 fps like killzone 2 their is no problem, IW should have at least made it 720p.

I played KZ2, and it annoyed the hell out of me.

I can't tell the difference between 30 or 60 FPS.

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#61 flamingqueef
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Is Killzone 2 720p native?
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#62 mitu123
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Is Killzone 2 720p native?flamingqueef
Yes, pretty sweet I'll say, though it's only 30FPS.
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#63 stereointegrity
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i might get this for the pc so i can run it at 1920x1080
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#64 2-10-08
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Once you get to 600p I prefer focusing on fps anyway.

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#65 linkin_guy109
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so? resolution doesnt change the fact that the game looks good

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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.SiKh22
if its a solid 30 fps like killzone 2 their is no problem, IW should have at least made it 720p.

IW is limited by what the hardware can do
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#67 Cherokee_Jack
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As with ODST, can't say I care. Especially at 60FPS.
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#68 04dcarraher
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Have fun with blurry textures and really low resolution. Good greef I havent played anything under 1024x768 rezsince 2003. CoD 4 looks at 3x better/sharper on Pc then its console version.

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#69 IndianaJosh
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Get it on PC, problem solved. 8)

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#70 Marka1700
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Have fun with blurry textures and really low resolution. Good greef I havent played anything under 1024x768 rezsince 2003. CoD 4 looks at 3x better/sharper on Pc then its console version.

04dcarraher

Just as well resolution dosn't effect the quality of the gameplay at all.

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#71 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.CwlHeddwyn
if its a solid 30 fps like killzone 2 their is no problem, IW should have at least made it 720p.

IW is limited by what the hardware can do

Indeed, and they insist it must run at a steady 60fps, and they succeeded with COD4, I didn't experience one dip.
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#72 Camer999
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Have fun with blurry textures and really low resolution. Good greef I havent played anything under 1024x768 rezsince 2003. CoD 4 looks at 3x better/sharper on Pc then its console version.

04dcarraher

I have seen videos on the PC version and doesn't look as good as PC players are hyperboling them to me, IMO. (compared to console)

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#73 -GeordiLaForge-
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I played through COD4 several times on my 360. I think that the graphics are great...
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#74 JigglyWiggly_
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No it's not, it's 1080p if you do something like have a pc ahahaha :)

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Have fun with blurry textures and really low resolution. Good greef I havent played anything under 1024x768 rezsince 2003. CoD 4 looks at 3x better/sharper on Pc then its console version.

Camer999

I have seen videos on the PC version and doesn't look as good as PC players are hyperboling them to me, IMO. (compared to console)

I have 3 dell s2409w monitors infornt of me, I have my x360 hooked up(on vga port), games look atrocious on it compared to the pc. It's also due to the nature of these lcds wanting a native res, which consoles can't do(without massive lag).

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#75 PandaBear86
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Does this really matter? HD isn't necessary.

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I disagree. Have you played Fallout 3 on a SDTV? You can't even read the text on the Pip-Boy.
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#76 Buster_Highman
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So on my PC running at 1920x1200 iam almost twice the resolution of the console version.

Thats really quite pathetic.

All console games should be 1280x720, no less.

And yet your PC's graphics look marginally better than 4-year old $200 consoles. How sad. What's even more sad is that I can play Monster's, Inc. at 480p on my TV and it still looks better than any game you can run on your PC at any resolution.
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#77 AzatiS
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Wow..

And i will playing this at 1900x1200?!!

Sometimes i love my PC so much!!

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#78 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="Buster_Highman"][QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So on my PC running at 1920x1200 iam almost twice the resolution of the console version.

Thats really quite pathetic.

All console games should be 1280x720, no less.

And yet your PC's graphics look marginally better than 4-year old $200 consoles. How sad. What's even more sad is that I can play Monster's, Inc. at 480p on my TV and it still looks better than any game you can run on your PC at any resolution.

My god, they just keep coming.
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#79 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So on my PC running at 1920x1200 iam almost twice the resolution of the console version.

Thats really quite pathetic.

All console games should be 1280x720, no less.

Buster_Highman

And yet your PC's graphics look marginally better than 4-year old $200 consoles. How sad. What's even more sad is that I can play Monster's, Inc. at 480p on my TV and it still looks better than any game you can run on your PC at any resolution.

Wait you're comparing a movie to that of a game lol? You are aware that the PC would run monsters inc better then your 480P TV right?

  1. Superior Frame rate
  2. Superior resolution
  3. Superior Online and dedicated servers
  4. Higher Multiplayer Caps
  5. More maps
  6. Mods
  7. Better controls

Not to mention consoles have to pay for additional content and have no access to user generated content. Don't hate. This is PC gaming.

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#80 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So on my PC running at 1920x1200 iam almost twice the resolution of the console version.

Thats really quite pathetic.

All console games should be 1280x720, no less.

Buster_Highman

And yet your PC's graphics look marginally better than 4-year old $200 consoles. How sad. What's even more sad is that I can play Monster's, Inc. at 480p on my TV and it still looks better than any game you can run on your PC at any resolution.

Joke? I PLAY GTR2 at 5760x1080 because I have 3 monitors, where are you going to plug 3 dvi ports on a console? Your arse?(Btw you can't play pregenerated animations)

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#81 bayareahusla
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can some one show me the difference between 30 and 60fps cause i cant tell
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#82 JigglyWiggly_
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can some one show me the difference between 30 and 60fps cause i cant tellbayareahusla
Uh, it's plainly obvious... if you had a pc. You could type something in an imaginary console(window), while consoles can't do. Say hl2, I can just type in net_graph 1 to see my fps, and it's really really obvious.
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#83 smartcriminal
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[QUOTE="SiKh22"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.pyromaniac223
if its a solid 30 fps like killzone 2 their is no problem, IW should have at least made it 720p.

I played KZ2, and it annoyed the hell out of me.

I played KZ2 and it was awesome, i read your post and the lying annoyed the hell out of me

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#84 glez13
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I wonder when people will start underrating 60fps and start overrating 120fps, just as they do with 30fps vs 60fps nowadays.

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#85 12345678ew
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It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.pyromaniac223
that whole claim has always been stupid, the human eye can only see about 23 and a third fps, so anything above that will look the same, except for incredibly small beat frequency, which both 30 and 60 fps will have the same, since they're just perfect doubles.....
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#86 BioShockOwnz
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Meh, don't care. But since it's an Activision published title... this is a load of bull, I tell ya! :evil:

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#87 PSdual_wielder
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I wonder when people will start underrating 60fps and start overrating 120fps, just as they do with 30fps vs 60fps nowadays.

glez13

Technology isn't there yet, well except if you have a top grade PC. Maybe next gen.

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#88 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.12345678ew
that whole claim has always been stupid, the human eye can only see about 23 and a third fps, so anything above that will look the same, except for incredibly small beat frequency, which both 30 and 60 fps will have the same, since they're just perfect doubles.....

There is a huge difference betwween 30fps and 60fps. If you can't see it then thats you.

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#89 glez13
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[QUOTE="12345678ew"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.The__Havoc

that whole claim has always been stupid, the human eye can only see about 23 and a third fps, so anything above that will look the same, except for incredibly small beat frequency, which both 30 and 60 fps will have the same, since they're just perfect doubles.....

There is a huge difference betwween 30fps and 60fps. If you can't see it then thats you.

Yes just use a powerful gaming PC play a game, that lets you limit the fps, at 120fps, then at 90fps, at 60fps, and 30fps. Then start laughing at your post and at the 23 & 1/3 fps. :lol:

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#90 The__Havoc
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[QUOTE="The__Havoc"]

[QUOTE="12345678ew"] that whole claim has always been stupid, the human eye can only see about 23 and a third fps, so anything above that will look the same, except for incredibly small beat frequency, which both 30 and 60 fps will have the same, since they're just perfect doubles.....glez13

There is a huge difference betwween 30fps and 60fps. If you can't see it then thats you.

Yes just use a powerful gaming PC play a game, that lets you limit the fps, at 120fps, then at 90fps, at 60fps, and 30fps. Then start laughing at your post and at the 23 & 1/3 fps. :lol:

Or I could just finish playing Metoid Prime then try to play Halo 3 and notice that Halo 3 feels like I'm walking in mud with its 30fps compared to Metroid Primes 60fps :|

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#91 JangoWuzHere
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can some one show me the difference between 30 and 60fps cause i cant tellbayareahusla
I honestly think you would have to be pretty blind to not see the difference between 60FPS and 30FPS. I play Gears of War on my PC and the game is pretty much smooth 60 FPS but compare it to the 360 version and you will see that its not as smooth.
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#92 winner-ps3
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that sux, 600p looks like crap on my 46" compared to my native HD games. The game wont look as good as some of the ps3 exclusives but im sure it will be fun, i just want the best of both worlds
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it looks good, so i dont care
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#94 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So on my PC running at 1920x1200 iam almost twice the resolution of the console version.

Thats really quite pathetic.

All console games should be 1280x720, no less.

whats also pretty pathetic is that your computer is probably 7 times as powerful as the consoles, so you should be doing 7 times better. techinically you fail.
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#95 AgentA-Mi6
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Im Not interested in MW at all, There's better games to spend my money on this fall. Too many shooters, this gen is saturated with shooters
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#96 tgzbdnosic
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600p is really low, it would look horrible on a native 1080p screen, glad i am going with pc version, that way i can play it at 1080p on both my monitor and 42inch hdtv, should make a great difference from the 600p resolution

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#97 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]It's 60 fps, so whatever. 30 frames really aggravates me in shooters.12345678ew
that whole claim has always been stupid, the human eye can only see about 23 and a third fps, so anything above that will look the same, except for incredibly small beat frequency, which both 30 and 60 fps will have the same, since they're just perfect doubles.....

That's completely wrong, read herehttp://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm

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#98 Trmpt
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600p? Not a problem for me, Im still on 480i lol. I wouldnt even care about it if I did have an HDTV anyways.

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#99 smartcriminal
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600p is really low, it would look horrible on a native 1080p screen, glad i am going with pc version, that way i can play it at 1080p on both my monitor and 42inch hdtv, should make a great difference from the 600p resolution

tgzbdnosic

No it will look fine, just like every other game that has come out for PS3/360 that isnt 1080p.

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#100 WilliamRLBaker
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No it's not, it's 1080p if you do something like have a pc ahahaha :)

[QUOTE="Camer999"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Have fun with blurry textures and really low resolution. Good greef I havent played anything under 1024x768 rezsince 2003. CoD 4 looks at 3x better/sharper on Pc then its console version.

JigglyWiggly_

I have seen videos on the PC version and doesn't look as good as PC players are hyperboling them to me, IMO. (compared to console)

I have 3 dell s2409w monitors infornt of me, I have my x360 hooked up(on vga port), games look atrocious on it compared to the pc. It's also due to the nature of these lcds wanting a native res, which consoles can't do(without massive lag).

and your a pc gamer isn't that odd? which was his whole point pc gamers hyperboling its graphics on the pc. come back when you have a sub 500 dollar system like most of the computer using populace. But then again when cod4 came out 500 dollar pc was unlikely able to play it at medium settings. And pc's can do it without massive lag? oh i know IF you have the hardware to run it, but try running a game at its max at high res at 60fps on a cheaper pc with cheaper parts and it wont do it.