Modern Warfare "Stimulus pack" hts Steam

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#51 Sandvichman
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Just don't buy it.

This entire generation I have only bought DLC once and that was for Fallout 3 ( a couple of mods I wanted used them). I stick by my belief that DLC should be free.

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I'd argue that DLC like this should be free, but if x dev spends a certain amount of months on new content, they shouldn't have to give it for free.
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#52 clyde46
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Yay. I love Steam. I bought COD4 for £9.99 and L4D2 for £13.39!

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#53 Lethalhazard
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I don't know why so many people buy these things. Its like they want to be shepherded by companies and have features removed. Sickening to say the least.
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#54 Metalscarz
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[QUOTE="WAIW"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

We could all do without people buying overpriced products purely because of the brand. Now that doesn't make any sense.

InsaneBasura

It makes sense. The more expensive cost is compensated, in the minds of the consumer, for the complete and total absence of risk. They know that they're getting new [and old] maps to play in, and that they'll have fun in those maps.

And I'm saying that line of thinking is irrational. Relying purely on branding will get you screwed eventually, one way or the other. Usually one way. PC users were asked to pay €10 more, for a product lacking features of its predecessor, and are now asked to pay for maps fans of the series already own and which would probably have been modded into the game for free. They are complacent ardent enthusiasts who cannot resist an opportunity to indulge an enthusiasm.

As long as it doesn't affect me I guess I'm fine with it in theory. Evidently they think it's worth paying more and more whilst getting nothing/less in return. So good for them, or something. But you know, ACII was $60. Starcraft II will be $60.

And he's saying it's pompous for you to try and dictate what is rational and or define what being screwed is for other people based on your preferences and mindset. It's even worse when people (not just you, but in general) use condescending terms to justify their preference over another. I mean insulting other peoples opinions is SURE to have them see your side, AMIRITE?

That being said the whole MW2 thing is ridiculous to me as well, and I wouldn't spend a cent on it. But I'm not arrogant enough or a big enough ******* to insult people who spend their own money how they want. On videogames of all things.

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#55 SGTiD1NG0
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Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious here but what's the point of paying $13.49 for five maps when you can pay $14.99 for a fully fledged game with 10 maps?
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#56 KalEl370
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Who cares? PC gamers will eat it up just like everyone else. How did that boycott work out for ya? lol

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#57 Jamex1987
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Who cares? PC gamers will eat it up just like everyone else. How did that boycott work out for ya? lol

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Good one. The DLC is ranked #3 on steam best seller list and it is not even out as yet. Currently MW2 the game they claimed to boycott is the most popular shooter over taking Counter Strike Source.
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#58 Nerkcon
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

http://www.xfire.com/

Scroll down to "Today's Top Games".

Mystic-G

xfire = fail lmao. If you want real stats look at game-monitor for COD4 and steam stats for MW2.

Unbiased sample size? I guess maybe your brilliance was too much for me.

No, he's right. Xfire only tracks people WHO ARE USING XFIRE. Game-monitor and Steam track everyone playing the game.
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#59 InsaneBasura
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And he's saying it's pompous for you to try and dictate what is rational and or define what being screwed is for other people based on your preferences and mindset. It's even worse when people (not just you, but in general) use condescending terms to justify their preference over another. I mean insulting other peoples opinions is SURE to have them see your side, AMIRITE?

That being said the whole MW2 thing is ridiculous to me as well, and I wouldn't spend a cent on it. But I'm not arrogant enough or a big enough ******* to insult people who spend their own money how they want. On videogames of all things.

Metalscarz

The value you're supposed to get in return is a sense of safety, that you can rely on the brand for continued quality and support. And certainly brand loyalty makes sense to a certain extent, but in the context of Activision raising the price of MW2 by ~20%, you're purely paying for further employment of strategies like it. Pay more and you'll continue to get charged more. If you prefer to spend more money on this intangible and dynamic aspect of a product or service, then that's your prerogative, but I will contend for all eternity that paying for a brand is largely nonsensical, ill-advised and at your own expense.

And while I may have contended in a manner that can be seen as condescending, I don't think I've insulted anyone. I've called people complacent and their acts irrational. What kind of words do you suggest I use to express myself with to not insult people then? Arrogant, pompous and ******* perhaps?

Also I think I already stated that I'm fine with people spending their money on whatevz, as long as it doesn't end up screwing me over. Activision is setting a precedent with their pricing. So there's some probability there, which is why this is something I'm somewhat invested in.

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#60 WAIW
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[QUOTE="Metalscarz"]

And he's saying it's pompous for you to try and dictate what is rational and or define what being screwed is for other people based on your preferences and mindset. It's even worse when people (not just you, but in general) use condescending terms to justify their preference over another. I mean insulting other peoples opinions is SURE to have them see your side, AMIRITE?

That being said the whole MW2 thing is ridiculous to me as well, and I wouldn't spend a cent on it. But I'm not arrogant enough or a big enough ******* to insult people who spend their own money how they want. On videogames of all things.

InsaneBasura

The value you're supposed to get in return is a sense of safety, that you can rely on the brand for continued quality and support. And certainly brand loyalty makes sense to a certain extent, but in the context of Activision raising the price of MW2 by ~20%, you're purely paying for further employment of strategies like it. Pay more and you'll continue to get charged more. If you prefer to spend more money on this intangible and dynamic aspect of a product or service, then that's your prerogative, but I will contend for all eternity that paying for a brand is largely nonsensical, ill-advised and at your own expense.

And while I may have contended in a manner that can be seen as condescending, I don't think I've insulted anyone. I've called people complacent and their acts irrational. What kind of words do you suggest I use to express myself with to not insult people then? Arrogant, pompous and ******* perhaps?

Also I think I already stated that I'm fine with people spending their money on whatevz, as long as it doesn't end up screwing me over. Activision is setting a precedent with their pricing. So there's some probability there, which is why this is something I'm somewhat invested in.

What's the alternative? Not paying, and not getting what they want?

While price goes up with demand, that isn't much of a problem for these people. It's even something of a boon; as the price goes up, supply will also go up. The continued success of Modern Warfare 2 and its DLC will undoubtedly lead to more Modern Warfare 2 and DLC, spiritually or technically. These people are encouraging the making of products they like, and while we see them as over-priced and offensive, the consumer is content.

(You, specifically, did not insult anyone, but my original post criticized a poster that did. I believe that's what Metalscarz is referring to)

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#61 Wasdie  Moderator
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Yup. This is why I didn't bother with this game.

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#62 Mystic-G
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Yup. This is why I didn't bother with this game.

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I knew their intentions the moment I found out they scrapped modding and dedicated servers. I can't see how anyone is surprised by this move. Funny though, at MSRP you had to pay $10 extra ($60 game) because of their matchmaking service so they can get you to pay even more later on for DLC. lol...
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#63 InsaneBasura
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What's the alternative? Not paying, and not getting what they want?

While price goes up with demand, that isn't much of a problem for these people. It's even something of a boon; as the price goes up, supply will also go up. The continued success of Modern Warfare 2 and its DLC will undoubtedly lead to more Modern Warfare 2 and DLC, spiritually or technically. These people are encouraging the making of products they like, and while we see them as over-priced and offensive, the consumer is content.

(You, specifically, did not insult anyone, but my original post criticized a poster that did. I believe that's what Metalscarz is referring to)

WAIW

Yes. Not paying, forcing publishers to omit these kind of tactics and in the future price their products according to the current standard instead of trying to set a new one to the possible detriment of all users. What a wonderful world it would be.

But yeah, stuff like this is probably the last thing on MW2 fans' minds. As long as the quality is deemed acceptable they'll keep feeding Activision their money. Thanks for explaining their viewpoint, but still, I'm not particularly content with them being content with the situation.

MW3 will be interesting. 1/5th of Infinity Ward is gone now.