A lot of people are having to get their 360 fixed for hardware issuses. I was one of the many that had to get my PS2 fixed for hardware issuses. Let's try to keep this fair. No fanboys. Poll only if you had to get your system fixed please.l
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A lot of people are having to get their 360 fixed for hardware issuses. I was one of the many that had to get my PS2 fixed for hardware issuses. Let's try to keep this fair. No fanboys. Poll only if you had to get your system fixed please.l
I would call it in favor of the 360. That rate just seems higher.
Hopefully MS is telling the truth when they say that they have fixes in place already.
And it was a costly lesson for them to spend more time on R&D for the new system's design.
A lot of people are having to get their 360 fixed for hardware issuses. I was one of the many that had to get my PS2 fixed for hardware issuses. Let's try to keep this fair. No fanboys. Poll only if you had to get your system fixed please.l
player_leo
This thread is stupid. I've had my PS2 for 5 years and not a single error reading! the failure rate for 360 is way higher than PS2's.
Let's take a look at figures, shall we?
There has been a proclaimed number of 360s failing and being return and refurbished. This number is 33% or 1/3.
The accepted manufacturing defect rate is 5% at most.
PS2 sold 120million
360 sold 10... or let's just say 11 million to be safe.
5% of 120 million is 6 million. 33% of 11million is about 3.7 million.
So, of course the PS2 would have more hardware failure being older and more sold. However, the rate for 360 is absolutely ridiculous. Microsoft already declared 100% defect rate for their 360s, meaning they are all prone to break faster. Who know what the failure rate for 360 can go up to.
I think the 360's breakdown rate is worse. I haven't had mine break down yet, but I feel it migh. My PS2 did screw up though... Hmph.
Let's take a look at figures, shall we?
There has been a proclaimed number of 360s failing and being return and refurbished. This number is 33% or 1/3.
The accepted manufacturing defect rate is 5% at most.
PS2 sold 120million
360 sold 10... or let's just say 11 million to be safe.5% of 120 million is 6 million. 33% of 11million is about 3.7 million.
So, of course the PS2 would have more hardware failure being older and more sold. However, the rate for 360 is absolutely ridiculous. Microsoft already declared 100% defect rate for their 360s, meaning they are all prone to break faster. Who know what the failure rate for 360 can go up to.
NobuoMusicMaker
All Xbox 360s shipped around the 11.6 mark we're reported to be broken eventually.
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I had a PS2 give me the "Disc Read Error" twice. I sent it in once because I was stupid enough not to do some research on it. The second time I got it, I just opened up my PS2, cleaned the lens with some rubbing alcohol, and it was like it was brand new.
I cant fix my 360 by myself :( Going onto my 4th
So far, the Ps2 gave me more troubles. I've had 4 ps2's and my launch 360 is still going strong.bluebrad1974
You'd think that after a few PS2s that a guy would figure out how to clean the lens.
Seriously though the Xbox360 failures are alot worse since 1. You cannot fix it yourself like most of the PS2 failures. 2. They happen extremly early in the console's lifespan(usually under a year) and 3 they are alot more frequent(I seriously don't know a single person who owns a 360 for more than about 10 months that hasn't had to send it back yet).
[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]So far, the Ps2 gave me more troubles. I've had 4 ps2's and my launch 360 is still going strong.tag_001
You'd think that after a few PS2s that a guy would figure out how to clean the lens.
Seriously though the Xbox360 failures are alot worse since 1. You cannot fix it yourself like most of the PS2 failures. 2. They happen extremly early in the console's lifespan(usually under a year) and 3 they are alot more frequent(I seriously don't know a single person who owns a 360 for more than about 10 months that hasn't had to send it back yet).
DRE'S,2 bum controller ports. I know 3 people with launch 360's that haven't had any problems.[QUOTE="tag_001"][QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]So far, the Ps2 gave me more troubles. I've had 4 ps2's and my launch 360 is still going strong.bluebrad1974
You'd think that after a few PS2s that a guy would figure out how to clean the lens.
Seriously though the Xbox360 failures are alot worse since 1. You cannot fix it yourself like most of the PS2 failures. 2. They happen extremly early in the console's lifespan(usually under a year) and 3 they are alot more frequent(I seriously don't know a single person who owns a 360 for more than about 10 months that hasn't had to send it back yet).
DRE'S,2 bum controller ports. I know 3 people with launch 360's that haven't had any problems.You guys must have found the magic batch or something because I'm in no way a xbox hater(hell I own a xbox 360) but the only people I know who still have their original Xboxs are the ones that just recently bought it(like me). Personally I have had my PS2 "fail" on me 2 times(DREs) but cleaning the lens gets rid of DREs 90% of the time(I have personally "fixed" many PS2s this way).
When a company extends it's warranty to 3 years and possibly faces a HUGE lawsuits because of hardware failure you know it's pretty much as bad as it can get. The PS2 was in no way close to be in that situation.
[QUOTE="player_leo"]A lot of people are having to get their 360 fixed for hardware issuses. I was one of the many that had to get my PS2 fixed for hardware issuses. Let's try to keep this fair. No fanboys. Poll only if you had to get your system fixed please.l
azad_champ
This thread is stupid. I've had my PS2 for 5 years and not a single error reading! the failure rate for 360 is way higher than PS2's.
I agree, my PS2 hasn't had ONE error, except software glitches and discs that were scratched by knocking the console hard.
That was the fate of Mercenaries and GTA-VC =(
As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
Wasdie
75-80%? Hell no. Theyd have to issue a recall if it was that much. There is no way that its possible that 90-96 million PS2s broke.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
asdasd
75-80%? Hell no. Theyd have to issue a recall if it was that much. There is no way that its possible that 90-96 million PS2s broke.
Yeah, this guy seriously exaggerates it. 5% is it. They never had any problems that wasn't unacceptable.
As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
Wasdie
You are a blind fanboy saying Sony had 75-80% failure rate, and M$ did catch up with them and flewpast them a long time ago. They have 100% failure rate.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
Ragnarok1051
You are a blind fanboy saying Sony had 75-80% failure rate, and M$ did catch up with them and flewpast them a long time ago. They have 100% failure rate.
And you are just as bad. The 360 failure rate is no where near 100%.
Let's take a look at figures, shall we?
There has been a proclaimed number of 360s failing and being return and refurbished. This number is 33% or 1/3.
The accepted manufacturing defect rate is 5% at most.
PS2 sold 120million
360 sold 10... or let's just say 11 million to be safe.5% of 120 million is 6 million. 33% of 11million is about 3.7 million.
So, of course the PS2 would have more hardware failure being older and more sold. However, the rate for 360 is absolutely ridiculous. Microsoft already declared 100% defect rate for their 360s, meaning they are all prone to break faster. Who know what the failure rate for 360 can go up to.
NobuoMusicMaker
lol 33%. Link please? O right most of the links are just people ASSUMING that the failure rate is that high. Btw every system I've owned has not had a defect or problem, including ps2, and 360.
[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
SpruceCaboose
You are a blind fanboy saying Sony had 75-80% failure rate, and M$ did catch up with them and flewpast them a long time ago. They have 100% failure rate.
And you are just as bad. The 360 failure rate is no where near 100%.
M$ said that all of the have something wrong with the design and will stop working, that sounds like 100% to me.
M$ said that all of the have something wrong with the design and will stop working, that sounds like 100% to me.Ragnarok1051
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]As of right now the PS2 had a much higher failure rate (damn near 75-80%) The 360 is catching up. Sony never saw the DREs coming though, that was completely unexcpeted. They fixed the problem luckly, but it wasn't until they had sold millions more than M$ has sold 360s.
Luckly M$ knows there is a problem and working on it before another DRE thing happens.
Ragnarok1051
You are a blind fanboy saying Sony had 75-80% failure rate, and M$ did catch up with them and flewpast them a long time ago. They have 100% failure rate.
Lets try to keep these to ACTUAL hardware failures. If you really had a hardware issuse. Not really intrested in "well I heard this, and they said that, or a friend of my cousins roommate had his blow up" Nah ! ONLY if you HAD a hardware system failure. Yes, Disc Read Errors count.Please Log In to post.
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