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#51 wergfwefwef
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besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.
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#52 Taalon
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[QUOTE="crazymalicous"][QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"] explain.JocktheMotie

Difficult to explain without hearing actual examples. Emo is stuff like Simple Plan, Good Charlette (sp???lol), Dashboard, anything really "teen" and urban, and the music is really, really simple. Whereas metal has some pretty complex structures, sing more about death and pain as a reverence than as a bad thing, and is generally more awesome. Go listen to some Simple Plan on iTunes, then listen to In Flames, and tell me there isn't a difference.

:lol:

Why is this funny? Show me how Children of Bodom or Wintersun don't have musically complex songs. If Beethoven and Mozart were alive today, they'd make metal music.



Wintersun stuff is pretty darn hard to play. Also, With Passion have insane riffs.
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#53 ---OkeyDokey---
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[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]wow, looks like i started a debate lol. i have no idea what anyones talking about, its all the same crap to me.casale

Seems to me you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about.  You say metal and emo are the same, then when someone disagrees with you, you ask for an explanation.  An explanation is provided that clearly distinguishes the two and yet you say they're still the same.

woah, sorry if i sounded rude. im not an expert on this music, give me a break. i haven't even heard of all these bands, dont expect me to understand a subject i have no knowledge or interest in right away.
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#54 Son_Of_Synyster
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@ The Concept Of "Emo" People - You have two people. "Emotional" people who are simply people who are overly sensitive and release it in positive ways (EX. Me). Then "Emo" people are people who dress and act a certain way regardless of wether they enjoy it or not, just for attention.
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#55 Taalon
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besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.wergfwefwef


Read my previous posts in this thread...Hawthorne Heights and Good Charlotte are not only very different from each other, they're also not emo.
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#56 Taalon
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@ The Concept Of "Emo" People - You have two people. "Emotional" people who are simply people who are overly sensitive and release it in positive ways (EX. Me). Then "Emo" people are people who dress and act a certain way regardless of wether they enjoy it or not, just for attention.Son_Of_Synyster

Agreed. People think being Emo is cutting yourself, listening to MCR and wearing black...that's just being part of something that's nothing. Emo is just a genre of music and nothing more.
[QUOTE="casale"][QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]wow, looks like i started a debate lol. i have no idea what anyones talking about, its all the same crap to me.---OkeyDokey---

Seems to me you have no idea what YOU'RE talking about. You say metal and emo are the same, then when someone disagrees with you, you ask for an explanation. An explanation is provided that clearly distinguishes the two and yet you say they're still the same.

woah, sorry if i sounded rude. im not an expert on this music, give me a break. i haven't even heard of all these bands, dont expect me to understand a subject i have no knowledge or interest in right away.



Then why would you even say anything...
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#57 casale
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This debate will go NOWHERE. Music has broken down into so many genres and sub-genres it's ridiculous. In the eighties, a band like Ratt or Poison was "Metal", not so much anymore. Being a horrible music snob, I could go on all day but in short, there's talent and no talent in EVERY style of music. The thing that gets me is when people throw every band into one clump and bash them for being "Talentless". The Human Abstract have so much talent, it's sickening. Yet, so does Josh Groban. All the labels now have led everyone to fall into one or the other, and EVERYONE misses out on amazing music because of it. To reply to the question, from what I've seen, GH III has WAY more "Metal".Son_Of_Synyster

I'd prefer GHIII to be more metal, cause that's really what I'd rather play.  And since I already have GHII it'll be cheaper than going all out with RB.  If money was no object, I'd get both for sure though.
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#58 ---OkeyDokey---
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besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.wergfwefwef
what? no one likes rap. thats worse than country music.
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#59 hongkingkong
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besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.wergfwefwef

its the other way round most of the time. I think you underestimate people. Most gamers like lots of types of music, fanboys might not because they have unhealthy attachments to things in all aspects of their lives, anyhoo just cus someone posts here doesn't mean you can generalize them like that.

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#60 wergfwefwef
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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.Taalon


Read my previous posts in this thread...Hawthorne Heights and Good Charlotte are not only very different from each other, they're also not emo.

like i said, emo is more of a sty.le now, real emo isnt even rlly mainstream anymore. w/e who cares the point is is that emo isnt metal. metal is slipknot, slayer, devil driver, etc.

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#61 Son_Of_Synyster
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[QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"]This debate will go NOWHERE. Music has broken down into so many genres and sub-genres it's ridiculous. In the eighties, a band like Ratt or Poison was "Metal", not so much anymore. Being a horrible music snob, I could go on all day but in short, there's talent and no talent in EVERY style of music. The thing that gets me is when people throw every band into one clump and bash them for being "Talentless". The Human Abstract have so much talent, it's sickening. Yet, so does Josh Groban. All the labels now have led everyone to fall into one or the other, and EVERYONE misses out on amazing music because of it. To reply to the question, from what I've seen, GH III has WAY more "Metal".casale

I'd prefer GHIII to be more metal, cause that's really what I'd rather play.  And since I already have GHII it'll be cheaper than going all out with RB.  If money was no object, I'd get both for sure though.

Oh totally, being a metal guitarist, I'd KILL for a fully metal GH. I'd be happy to put together the song list for them :P. I bought two JUST because of A7X, All That Remains & Shadows Fall really.
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#62 wergfwefwef
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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.hongkingkong

its the other way round most of the time. I think you underestimate people. Most gamers like lots of types of music, fanboys might not because they have unhealthy attachments to things in all aspects of their lives, anyhoo just cus someone posts here doesn't mean you can generalize them like that.

youve never been playing Halo 2/3 or Gears or even counter strikeand some person just starts rapping or plays rap throught their mic? happens at least 1 time every time I play. I think your OVERestimating people.

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#63 wergfwefwef
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[QUOTE="casale"][QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"]This debate will go NOWHERE. Music has broken down into so many genres and sub-genres it's ridiculous. In the eighties, a band like Ratt or Poison was "Metal", not so much anymore. Being a horrible music snob, I could go on all day but in short, there's talent and no talent in EVERY style of music. The thing that gets me is when people throw every band into one clump and bash them for being "Talentless". The Human Abstract have so much talent, it's sickening. Yet, so does Josh Groban. All the labels now have led everyone to fall into one or the other, and EVERYONE misses out on amazing music because of it. To reply to the question, from what I've seen, GH III has WAY more "Metal".Son_Of_Synyster

I'd prefer GHIII to be more metal, cause that's really what I'd rather play. And since I already have GHII it'll be cheaper than going all out with RB. If money was no object, I'd get both for sure though.

Oh totally, being a metal guitarist, I'd KILL for a fully metal GH. I'd be happy to put together the song list for them :P. I bought two JUST because of A7X, All That Remains & Shadows Fall really.

LOL, no offense but... A7X METAL?? please.... each band member has their own clothing line LITERALLY. Their pretty much a boy band that uses guitars, and care more about money than the actual music. GHIII being all metal would be awesome, seeing how all metal songs have more complex riffs and solos that use penatonic scales and fast alternate picking.

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Im liking GHIIIs sountrack more.

System of a Down, Rage Against the Machine, Muse, Slipknot, Slayer.

Good enough for me.

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Both games are full of talentless hacks that play simple music so it doesn't matter.Gunraidan

i took major offense to this as there is a muse song in gh3. You do know Muse is widely considered as pretty much the top band in the world right now???

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#66 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]Both games are full of talentless hacks that play simple music so it doesn't matter.blues3531

i took major offense to this as there is a muse song in gh3. You do know Muse is widely considered as pretty much the top band in the world right now???

True, i'd love to see Assasin, Plug in Baby, Stolkholm Syndrome or more.............
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[QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"][QUOTE="casale"][QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"]This debate will go NOWHERE. Music has broken down into so many genres and sub-genres it's ridiculous. In the eighties, a band like Ratt or Poison was "Metal", not so much anymore. Being a horrible music snob, I could go on all day but in short, there's talent and no talent in EVERY style of music. The thing that gets me is when people throw every band into one clump and bash them for being "Talentless". The Human Abstract have so much talent, it's sickening. Yet, so does Josh Groban. All the labels now have led everyone to fall into one or the other, and EVERYONE misses out on amazing music because of it. To reply to the question, from what I've seen, GH III has WAY more "Metal".wergfwefwef


I'd prefer GHIII to be more metal, cause that's really what I'd rather play. And since I already have GHII it'll be cheaper than going all out with RB. If money was no object, I'd get both for sure though.

Oh totally, being a metal guitarist, I'd KILL for a fully metal GH. I'd be happy to put together the song list for them :P. I bought two JUST because of A7X, All That Remains & Shadows Fall really.

LOL, no offense but... A7X METAL?? please.... each band member has their own clothing line LITERALLY. Their pretty much a boy band that uses guitars, and care more about money than the actual music. GHIII being all metal would be awesome, seeing how all metal songs have more complex riffs and solos that use penatonic scales and fast alternate picking.

Thank you for saying that for me. :D

But truely if you listen to Hawthorne Heights and then listen to something like Nile you will clearly notice that one of the bands suck ass and the other kicks ass. Simple as that.

GHIII will probably have more metal.

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[QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"][QUOTE="casale"][QUOTE="Son_Of_Synyster"]This debate will go NOWHERE. Music has broken down into so many genres and sub-genres it's ridiculous. In the eighties, a band like Ratt or Poison was "Metal", not so much anymore. Being a horrible music snob, I could go on all day but in short, there's talent and no talent in EVERY style of music. The thing that gets me is when people throw every band into one clump and bash them for being "Talentless". The Human Abstract have so much talent, it's sickening. Yet, so does Josh Groban. All the labels now have led everyone to fall into one or the other, and EVERYONE misses out on amazing music because of it. To reply to the question, from what I've seen, GH III has WAY more "Metal".wergfwefwef


I'd prefer GHIII to be more metal, cause that's really what I'd rather play. And since I already have GHII it'll be cheaper than going all out with RB. If money was no object, I'd get both for sure though.

Oh totally, being a metal guitarist, I'd KILL for a fully metal GH. I'd be happy to put together the song list for them :P. I bought two JUST because of A7X, All That Remains & Shadows Fall really.

LOL, no offense but... A7X METAL?? please.... each band member has their own clothing line LITERALLY. Their pretty much a boy band that uses guitars, and care more about money than the actual music. GHIII being all metal would be awesome, seeing how all metal songs have more complex riffs and solos that use penatonic scales and fast alternate picking.

Well you did list that sad excuse of a metal band *coughSlipknotcough* a couple of posts earlier too...

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Real guitar beats both

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[QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]I think Rock Band is gonna be more mainstream, since they're mega advertising some really poppy bands.casale
Agreed.
Nice avatar by the way. How cool would it be to get an Iced Earth tune in one of these games?

That would be Something Wicked. ;)
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[QUOTE="blues3531"]

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]Both games are full of talentless hacks that play simple music so it doesn't matter.skrat_01

i took major offense to this as there is a muse song in gh3. You do know Muse is widely considered as pretty much the top band in the world right now???

True, i'd love to see Assasin, Plug in Baby, Stolkholm Syndrome or more.............

yeah plug in baby would be amazing, that and citizen erased are my favorite muse songs

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#72 casale
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[QUOTE="casale"][QUOTE="Xerlaoth"]I think Rock Band is gonna be more mainstream, since they're mega advertising some really poppy bands.smokeydabear076
Agreed.
Nice avatar by the way. How cool would it be to get an Iced Earth tune in one of these games?

That would be Something Wicked. ;)

Good one!
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I hope Rock Band has more metal because it would be cool to try drumming to songs, singing, playing the guitar/bass. That would rule above all else.
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emo is more of a darn style now than anything else. Emo music is stuff like hawthorne heights and good charlotte. As for metal, well thats completly diffrent....wergfwefwef

how the f**k is good charlote emo ? I have been listening to them since 1994 before all this emo crap. cause i am from maryland and so are they ?

if good charlte is emo then so is deftones and korn. cause thier music is more emotional then anything.

for gods sake i really hate labels.

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Well, from what I have seen, GH3 has more metal in it so far. In my opinion its going to be a little more difficult for certain genres of metal to make it into Rock Band purely because they make use of double bass drums and Rockband only has one pedal.

Anyway, what is metal? Metal is a ton of different things. It's a very versatile genre where you have the likes of death and life side by side. It's a genre where one band screams visceral lyrics amidst bombastic sounds while another elegantly weaves soaring vocals with speedy guitar solos. It's a genre where bands can sound like they recorded in their garage or with a 50 piece orchestra. It's a genre where men covered in face paint, clad in battle armor, or donning leather pants is a common occurrence. It's a genre where you can have pirates, barbarians, vikings, and warriors all play in a single concert. It's a genre that births music so cheesy you're embarrassed at times to listen to it by yourself or so heavy that you get pumped up for a long day at work. In essence, metal is everything, but everything is not metal.

Ya, I think that pretty much covers it. If you haven't listened to much metal before check out bands like Turisas, Rhapsody of Fire, or heck even much of Trans-Siberian Orchestra. In my opinion having orchestras with their music makes them a little more accessible to the common person.

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Rock Band costs twice as much as GHIII. I could almost get another console for the price of Rock Band, I'll pass.
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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]emo is more of a darn style now than anything else. Emo music is stuff like hawthorne heights and good charlotte. As for metal, well thats completly diffrent....Hadoken_Kid

how the f**k is good charlote emo ? I have been listening to them since 1994 before all this emo crap. cause i am from maryland and so are they ?

if good charlte is emo then so is deftones and korn. cause thier music is more emotional then anything.

for gods sake i really hate labels.

What about

ahem

Fallout Boy?

Muhaha.

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GHIII has more metal

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#80 TheFlush
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I loooove the gameplay, but I really really hate rock music. I would like a guitar hero game with electronic music....but guitars aren't featured that much in electronic music haha. :)
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Emo is a trend the style of music is called screamo. Bands like Chiodos, SilverStien, Alesana are what you call EMO. Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Fall Out boy is Pop Rock. But I can really care less I about that kind of music I'm more of a HardCore,Metal, DeathMetal, GrindCore and Indie fan myself.
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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"][QUOTE="terry_tate"][QUOTE="JocktheMotie"]

[QUOTE="---OkeyDokey---"]you mean like emo music? no thanks.---OkeyDokey---

No, not emo music. Metal. There is a difference.

It really gets to me that alot of people think I'm emo because I listen to heavy metal, death metal, or any kindof metal.

I don't have a stupid haircut, I don't cry for no reason, I actually have friends. I'm not bloody emo.

Sorry had to get that off my chest.

thats probably offensive to all the emo's in this thread.



There's no such thing as an emo.

lol what? what do ya call them then? the angsty, depressed people that cut themselves, i mean.

Okey Dokey before you critizize a style of music you should at least have some knowledge of the style of music you are trying to critizize because you just make your self look like a a**.
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#83 ArcticSnake
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*Pauses Lykathea Aflame*

Metal... yes, good genre... GH and RB... yes, barely any metal...

Man, this thread is kind of boring. I figured by now there would be a bigger music genre flame fest :-/.

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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.---OkeyDokey---
what? no one likes rap. thats worse than country music.

Yet again Okey Dokey makes him self look like a a** by not having any knowledge of the music he is trying to criticize
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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.wergfwefwef



Read my previous posts in this thread...Hawthorne Heights and Good Charlotte are not only very different from each other, they're also not emo.

like i said, emo is more of a sty.le now, real emo isnt even rlly mainstream anymore. w/e who cares the point is is that emo isnt metal. metal is slipknot, slayer, devil driver, etc.



Please dont ever use a crappy band like slipknot to describe "Metal"
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#86 ArcticSnake
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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.Super-Trooper



Read my previous posts in this thread...Hawthorne Heights and Good Charlotte are not only very different from each other, they're also not emo.

like i said, emo is more of a sty.le now, real emo isnt even rlly mainstream anymore. w/e who cares the point is is that emo isnt metal. metal is slipknot, slayer, devil driver, etc.



Please dont ever use a crappy band like slipknot to describe "Metal"

Sadly, we gotta' put up with Nu metal. *shudders*
Come to think of it, we gotta' put up with metalcore. *shudders*

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV-ordSVZqE TNTLLY is awesomeBTBAM127

what has the world come to...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5watjvnqSI

this is what good metal is

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#89 themagicbum9720
Member since 2007 • 6536 Posts

besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.wergfwefwef

i hate rap and listen to metal.

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#90 themagicbum9720
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5watjvnqSI

this is what good metal is

hobbit93

that's bad metal.

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#91 jasonharris48
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5watjvnqSI

this is what good metal is

hobbit93

That was pretty tight but I still prefer bands like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw7YsZFksBQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Q25XlHeFE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x09fR8LP2ww

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#92 PainKiller_25
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5watjvnqSI

this is what good metal is

hobbit93

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPdkeJWpvd0&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdrKGhQUpWA&mode=related&search=


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Drangonforce

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#93 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="wergfwefwef"]besides, half the ppl posting on these forums are probably just nerds who always listen to rap and hate metal.themagicbum9720

i hate rap and listen to metal.

I love rap and hip-hop and listen to metal so it really just comes down to taste
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#94 Saturos3091
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Neither have really any good metal, but it really depends on what type of metal you are looking for. I prefer Progressive Death Metal, Blackened Death Metal, and Melodic Death Metal, and a few death/black metal styles as well. Neither games have any of this, although GHIII is the better bet from what we've seen so far.

PS: Dragonforce are proven cheaters.
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#95 Virus214
Member since 2007 • 2052 Posts

You should try some power metal. Power metal is heavy music but with clean vocals.

Dream Theater

Dragonforce
3 Inches Of Blood
Taalon

I love dragonforce.. :D its so awesome.

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#96 PainKiller_25
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[QUOTE="Taalon"]

You should try some power metal. Power metal is heavy music but with clean vocals.

Dream Theater

Dragonforce
3 Inches Of Blood
Virus214

I love dragonforce.. :D its so awesome.

Rhapsody FTW!!!!!!! 8)

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#97 ArcticSnake
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Neither have really any good metal, but it really depends on what type of metal you are looking for. I prefer Progressive Death Metal, Blackened Death Metal, and Melodic Death Metal, and a few death/black metal styles as well. Neither games have any of this, although GHIII is the better bet from what we've seen so far.

PS: Dragonforce are proven cheaters.
Saturos3091

I quote this man for his truth... I just can't deny.

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#98 MattUD1
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[QUOTE="hobbit93"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5watjvnqSI

this is what good metal is

themagicbum9720

that's bad metal.

That's cliche metal.

This is what I view good metal to be.

Here.

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#99 MattUD1
Member since 2004 • 20715 Posts
[QUOTE="Virus214"]

[QUOTE="Taalon"]

You should try some power metal. Power metal is heavy music but with clean vocals.

Dream Theater

Dragonforce
3 Inches Of Blood
PainKiller_25

I love dragonforce.. :D its so awesome.

Rhapsody FTW!!!!!!! 8)

Since when was DT power metal?
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#100 Gunraidan
Member since 2007 • 4272 Posts

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]Both games are full of talentless hacks that play simple music so it doesn't matter.blues3531

i took major offense to this as there is a muse song in gh3. You do know Muse is widely considered as pretty much the top band in the world right now???

But they aren't too good talentwise compared to other bands like Stone, Depressive Age, Rage, etc.....at all.