Only thing i use my PS3 for is blu-ray...no joke
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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"][QUOTE="Aboogie5"]Well an Xbox 360 + chargers + wifi + 1 year XBL is more than a PS3 so I guess thats kind of true, depending on the person's needs that is. that's an awful argument because not everyone needs wifi or chargers to get the most out of their console. you can buy a wired controller and plug the console into your router using a wire which makes the overall price of the console much cheaper. the problem with the ps3 is that it holds you to ransom with its features. even if you don't need / want wireless you're forced to pay for it. i couldn't care less about blu rayso if there was a cheaper ps3 without the blu ray drive i'd happily have bought that. Holds you to ransom? Lmao, have you ever heard of Ethernet? People are getting stupider every day..The money they are paying to set them selves up for a good gaming experience is more than the ps3.
my_name_is_ron
[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]The games on the PS3 were not on the PC at all. So why would you compare the two consoles when i was talking strickly as a pc gamer. Sure the 360 may be a great console for someone who doesn't already game on pc, I will admit that, but for a pc gamer it is not imo. ohthemanatee
these were the PS3 launch games, not an impressive list, and most of them are on the PC and the 360 ;)
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Call of Duty 3
Genji: Days of the Blade
Madden NFL 07
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
NBA 2K7
NHL 2K7
Resistance: Fall of Man
Ridge Racer 7
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07
Tony Hawk's Project 8
now the 360's list:
Amped 3
Call of Duty 2
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Every Party
FIFA 06: Road to FIFA World Cup
Gun
Kameo: Elements of Power
Madden NFL 06
NBA 2K
NBA Live 06
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
NHL 2K6
Perfect Dark Zero
Peter Jackson's King Kong: The Official Game of the Movie
Project Gotham Racing 3
Quake 4
Ridge Racer 6
Tetris: The Grandmaster ACE
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
I said "Near Launch" I bought my PS3 in 2008 when GTA4/MGS4 came out, there were much more games on the PS3 at that point and the price was much more appealing then launch price. I admit i would of never bought the PS3 at its original price point. And i will concede that at launch it didn't have a great library, but that has changed and by 2008 it was already getting a great library of games togeather to make it worth while.I said near launch games... And no these games you can't find on pc , sure there may be console ports on pc like dmc4, but thats not gow, why would i want dmc4 when I want to play Gow1-3? There is no game that is like uncharted on pc, and why would i want a different 3rd person shooter when I want Uncharted. My point stands that these games are not on the pc but the 360 games are, how hard is this to understand? As a PC gamer it was an easy decision, get the console that shared most of the same games or the one that had a number of games that looked and played great and weren't on the pc? As for the freedom thing, I could care less if it was only one game, it doesn't matter, it's still a valid point. If a dev wants to do so they can, and they can't on the 360. Why can't you guys accept this stuff? Look I am not saying the 360 is a bad console. For a non pc gamer it could be a great thing as it offers pc games on it too. But as a traditional PC gamer who is looking for a console to compliment their rig the ps3 is the better value.Midnightshade29
So where are the following games on the PC:
Halo 3
Halo: ODST
Fable 2
Forza 2
Forza 3
Gears 2
PGR 3 and 4
Dead or Alive
Kameo
PDZ
Ace combat 6
viva pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Banjo 3
on the PC?
[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] link?
[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]The ps3 though always had games (even in the 2007 year) that were not like anything seen on pc , Games like Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Warhawk, MGS4, LBP, Gta4 (at the time) these were games that you couldn't play on the pc back when i bought mine, and the list grew and grewMidnightshade29
That's REALLY stretching it
uh dude... My post proved my point... Near Launch games for the first year of 360: Cod2, Oblivion, Graw, and Quake 4 and Gears of war all on pc all better on PC. GRAW on PC isn't better than the 360 one, they're too different and I own both versions and actually prefer the 360 one overall, the PC version's advantage was only had 4 player co-op, was bigger and tougher too but lacked a lot of things that the 360 version had in both single and multiplayer.I said "Near Launch" I bought my PS3 in 2008 when GTA4/MGS4 came out, there were much more games on the PS3 at that point and the price was much more appealing then launch price. I admit i would of never bought the PS3 at its original price point. And i will concede that at launch it didn't have a great library, but that has changed and by 2008 it was already getting a great library of games togeather to make it worth while.Midnightshade29
two years into the gen is not "near launch" and it doesn't change the fact that the 360 STILL has more exclusives then the PS3
Yeah...
I have both systems and honestly, I would be perfectly happy with just the 360. It provides the best overall gaming experience this gen as far as I'm concerned.
[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]I said near launch games... And no these games you can't find on pc , sure there may be console ports on pc like dmc4, but thats not gow, why would i want dmc4 when I want to play Gow1-3? There is no game that is like uncharted on pc, and why would i want a different 3rd person shooter when I want Uncharted. My point stands that these games are not on the pc but the 360 games are, how hard is this to understand? As a PC gamer it was an easy decision, get the console that shared most of the same games or the one that had a number of games that looked and played great and weren't on the pc? As for the freedom thing, I could care less if it was only one game, it doesn't matter, it's still a valid point. If a dev wants to do so they can, and they can't on the 360. Why can't you guys accept this stuff? Look I am not saying the 360 is a bad console. For a non pc gamer it could be a great thing as it offers pc games on it too. But as a traditional PC gamer who is looking for a console to compliment their rig the ps3 is the better value.-Snooze-
Why would i want Killzone, when i have Halo? Why would i want GT when i have Forza, why would i want Resistance, when i can nail my testicles to a board.
You see where this is going, yoru argument is baseless. The 360/PC combination is as good, if not better then the PS3/PC combination.
You claim to be a tradtional PC gamer, and keep saying you can get the same games the 360 offers on the PC, and yet you play said games on the PS3.
I play console style games on the PS3, I would never play Devil may cry on the PC as its not a console game, I play games like Stalker and Heroes of Might and magic, civ4, Risen , Divinity 3, Sins of a solar empire , total war, Age of empires, Battlefield 2, Vampire the Masquarde, Kotor , etc... On the PC and console style games I play on the PS3 because of the trophies and i prefer the controls for those games, and because I can. You say why would you want killzone if you have halo, why would you want etc.... Personally unless you love halo i see no reason why someone would buy a 360 if you own a gaming pc. I don't like the halo series , I have halo 2 on the PC and I think it was awful. Also being someone who loved the PS1 back in the day, I knew Sony has a reputation of making and bringing great games to the console, unique games that were console games. And my research proved this. Plus the free to play online is a great thing. I don't know why you xbox guys are getting so upset over this. I never said the 360 is a bad console just not as compelling a purchase for a pc gamer as a ps3 is for someone looking for a console to compliment their pc.uh dude... My post proved my point... Near Launch games for the first year of 360: Cod2, Oblivion, Graw, and Quake 4 and Gears of war all on pc all better on PC. Launch games for PS3: Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank, Warhawk, Folklore, MGS4, Resistance fall of man,Ninja Gaiden Sigma, all on ps3 not o the pc.. (I did not list sucky games like lair and perfect dark zero as they are not worth buying a console for) When already being a pc gamer why would i buy a system that has 95% of the same games and makes you pay to play online. If you can't see the point i made is true then you need to wipe your eyes. Unless you like halo (i can't stand that series) then there really is no reason being a pc gamer to get a 360. As far as freedom for devs... PS3 allows devs to use pc made mods, it also allows for keyboard and mouse controls and enables the devs to launch free expansion paks (unreal 3 did all 3 things and the 360 version got none of it as ms doesn't allow mods, kb/mouse, and doesn't allow free content as they get no cash for it). Couple that what mmo devs are saying about not being able to launch their games on 360 do to the pricing structure. They want people to play them and pay the subscription but for everyone not just gold members, ms doesn't like that at all. Tell me where you can find heavenly sword, warhawk, uncharted, lbp, infamous, god of war like games on the pc? these aren't typical pc style games...they are PlayStation style games.[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]
That's REALLY stretching it
-Snooze-
Perfect Dark got a 9 here, unlike your so called quality PS3 launch games. I enjoyed, and still enjoy PDZ, it's far better then Resistance.
Also, GRAW on the PC is nothing like GRAW on the Xbox 360. The 360 version was my first true next gen experiance, and it was excellent.
Games like Dead or Alive were not on PC too, and are still excellent to this day, face it, you don't know enough about the Xbox to bash it, whereas i own a PS3 and can make up a valid opinion of it.
heavenly sword, warhawk, uncharted, lbp, infamous, god of war are not PS ****games ...
Heavenly Sword is a hack and slash game, every console has them, as do the PC.
Warhawk? LOL, It's a poor mans battlefield, with a poor flight sim tacked on
Uncharted is a third person shooter, the PC has these, it nothing comparted to Max Pain.
LBP is a platformer, every console has these, the PC has TONS of indy games just like this.
God of War? See Heavenly sword.
And before you ask, i own all the games mentioned, and will show you my PSN ID if you don't believe me.
The multiplats the 360 and PC share may be better on the PC, but surely someone who claims to be playing multiplatform games on their PS3, as opposed to the PC will know that sometimes, you don't want them on the PC
Ha, the PC version only did a few things better, but in overall design, polish, value and content, 360 destorys it.That's usually how it works here in System Wars...sadly. TC makes outlandish claim, thread supports itself as proponents and detractors of said claim rush in and commence with the slap fights.I like how this thread went on so long. TC provided no evidence whatsoever.
lundy86_4
Personally unless you love halo i see no reason why someone would buy a 360 if you own a gaming pc. I don't like the halo series , I have halo 2 on the PC and I think it was awful. Midnightshade29Fable 2, Kameo, Dead or Alive, Gears 2, Lost Odyssey
Also being someone who loved the PS1 back in the day, I knew Sony has a reputation of making and bringing great games to the console, unique games that were console games. And my research proved this. Plus the free to play online is a great thing. I don't know why you xbox guys are getting so upset over this. I never said the 360 is a bad console just not as compelling a purchase for a pc gamer as a ps3 is for someone looking for a console to compliment their pc.Midnightshade29
as someone who owns both a PC and 360 I feel exactly the opposite. The 360 complements the Pc much better then the oposite. I've already proven to you time and time again that the 360 has mor exclusives then the PS3 yet you just keep ignoring it.
oh and by the way, the PS1 was full of PC/PS1 shared games, Resident evil, Dino crisis, Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy series are just a few examples
[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]That's usually how it works here in System Wars...sadly. TC makes outlandish claim, thread supports itself as proponents and detractors of said claim rush in and commence with the slap fights.I like how this thread went on so long. TC provided no evidence whatsoever.
The_Game21x
Oh yeah, I see it repeatedly. It's rather absurd, but it does make for some lulz.
Lol, sap fights, that would be awesome seeing something like System Wars on a face-to-face basis.
I never said the 360 is a bad console just not as compelling a purchase for a pc gamer as a ps3 is for someone looking for a console to compliment their pc.Midnightshade29
Thats the problem, a lot of us do not agree. I have a Gaming PC (Newly built) A Wii,PS3 and 360. If i had to lose one conosle, it'd be the PS3. Easily.
Yeah, I bought a Slim the day they came out, played it pretty exclusively for a couple weeks then went back to the 360, my PS3 only really get's used when the kids play little big planet, it's almost not worth keeping it when I could sell it and get more games that actually interest me...
But we'll see I guess, so far I like the PS3 but it doesn't have the draw as a gamer that I thought it would.
that's an awful argument because not everyone needs wifi or chargers to get the most out of their console. you can buy a wired controller and plug the console into your router using a wire which makes the overall price of the console much cheaper. the problem with the ps3 is that it holds you to ransom with its features. even if you don't need / want wireless you're forced to pay for it. i couldn't care less about blu rayso if there was a cheaper ps3 without the blu ray drive i'd happily have bought that. Holds you to ransom? Lmao, have you ever heard of Ethernet? People are getting stupider every day.. of course i have, it's what i have my 360 connected to the net via. what i was trying to explain that, even if yuou don't need or want the wifi the ps3 provides you still have to pay for it. on the 360 it's completely optional[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Well an Xbox 360 + chargers + wifi + 1 year XBL is more than a PS3 so I guess thats kind of true, depending on the person's needs that is.Easyle
I could buy a PS3... but don't. PS3 has some nice exclusives, but as I dont need blurays... it simply does basically what my xbox does. I dont have a good gaming PC... so by buying 1 console... the xbox allowed me to play the best selection of games (if you dont count shared xbox and PC exclusives, since my PC cant run modern fgames so well, the xbox easily has the most highrated AAAAE and AAAE and AAE games)
But most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
thetruespin
This link is the reason more people have 360s than PS3s. 360 simply has a better games lineup :)
dosent mean valve will release everything on ps3, i grew bored of the ps3 all the use itl serve me is too watch blu rays on, i see the 360 as the definitive gaming console , most 360 owners would rather get the RROd then buy a ps3, i dont see how bc 2 is better on ps3, very little multiplats are better on ps3, as for the exclusives thier nothing special personaly all flash with average gameplayBut most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
thetruespin
[QUOTE="Aboogie5"]
[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]
If i hadn't bought my PS3, i would be over £800 up, and far happier. I'm quite content with what the Xbox offers, the PS3 does not compliment it at all.
Lol like what? party chat...It's real easy to down play party chat if you don't have it. If you game with a lot of people it is indispensable. It's the main reason most people prefer XBL multiplayer to PSN. Look at multiplatform multiplayer game sales and it's pretty damn obvious. Word.But most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
Keep believing that if it helps you sleep better. I'll only tell you two things: 1) BFBC2 doesn't look better on PS3, like 98% other Mulitplats, it looks slightly better on the 360 2)If someone spends $300 on a 360, they have enough to afford a PS3 as well...[QUOTE="thetruespin"]dosent mean valve will release everything on ps3, i grew bored of the ps3 all the use itl serve me is too watch blu rays on, i see the 360 as the definitive gaming console , most 360 owners would rather get the RROd then buy a ps3, i dont see how bc 2 is better on ps3, very little multiplats are better on ps3, as for the exclusives thier nothing special personaly all flash with average gameplay most of you are talking about how the PS3 USED to be, about 2 years ago. Right now it has better exclusives and multiplats are the same, 360 2 years ago was a good choice, 1 year ago, possibly, but now... pfttt... its dying, espeically outside of the USBut most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
tastetheacidmil
most of you are talking about how the PS3 USED to be, about 2 years ago. Right now it has better exclusives and multiplats are the same, 360 2 years ago was a good choice, 1 year ago, possibly, but now... pfttt... its dying, espeically outside of the USthetruespin
Is that why the 360 is still the console with the most high rated exclusives?
Is that why lens of truth, IGN and Eurogamer for the most part still say that multiplats are better on the 360?
[QUOTE="tastetheacidmil"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]dosent mean valve will release everything on ps3, i grew bored of the ps3 all the use itl serve me is too watch blu rays on, i see the 360 as the definitive gaming console , most 360 owners would rather get the RROd then buy a ps3, i dont see how bc 2 is better on ps3, very little multiplats are better on ps3, as for the exclusives thier nothing special personaly all flash with average gameplay most of you are talking about how the PS3 USED to be, about 2 years ago. Right now it has better exclusives and multiplats are the same, 360 2 years ago was a good choice, 1 year ago, possibly, but now... pfttt... its dying, espeically outside of the USBut most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
thetruespin
And yet all the PS3 exclusives i've bought recently have got less play time then a game i bought 2 years ago.
[QUOTE="thetruespin"] most of you are talking about how the PS3 USED to be, about 2 years ago. Right now it has better exclusives and multiplats are the same, 360 2 years ago was a good choice, 1 year ago, possibly, but now... pfttt... its dying, espeically outside of the USohthemanatee
Is that why the 360 is still the console with the most high rated exclusives?
Is that why lens of truth, IGN and Eurogamer for the most part still say that multiplats are better on the 360?
exactly,there still quite far from the sameIt's thread like these that make people have opinions like this
http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml
Because of course , all cows have a gaming pc, 7.1 home theater system, and now they are all rich because the PS3 is you know a whole 100 dollars more then 360. Im so glad Sony is in last place , no telling how much more immature cows would act if this weren't the case.
:lol: true, if you told ps3 fanboys that theyd find more spin too put on peoples opinionss on themIt's thread like these that make people have opinions like this
http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml
Because of course , all cows have a gaming pc, 7.1 home theater system, and now they are all rich because the PS3 is you know a whole 100 dollars more then 360. Im so glad Sony is in last place , no telling more immature cows would act if this weren't the case.
Ultra_Combo
I disagree with you tc, the 360 has no games worth buying making it way less expensive in the long run
I totally agree with you and what I've read from that post. Sony fanboys are definitely the worst. I can't help but wonder if some of the fanboys here are being paid by someone to make some of these ridiculous topics that are done over and over again.It's thread like these that make people have opinions like this
http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml
Because of course , all cows have a gaming pc, 7.1 home theater system, and now they are all rich because the PS3 is you know a whole 100 dollars more then 360. Im so glad Sony is in last place , no telling how much more immature cows would act if this weren't the case.
Ultra_Combo
[QUOTE="Ultra_Combo"]I totally agree with you and what I've read from that post. Sony fanboys are definitely the worst. I can't help but wonder if some of the fanboys here are being paid by someone to make some of these ridiculous topics that are done over and over again. should see them on you tube thier so hostile and delusional, they talk crap about the 360 but as soon as someone says something about the ps3 its a probelmIt's thread like these that make people have opinions like this
http://www.destructoid.com/fact-ps3-fanboys-are-the-worst-149259.phtml
Because of course , all cows have a gaming pc, 7.1 home theater system, and now they are all rich because the PS3 is you know a whole 100 dollars more then 360. Im so glad Sony is in last place , no telling how much more immature cows would act if this weren't the case.
Fumpa
LOL. I don't know whether this is ignorant or brillant :lol:The PS3 is the poor mans Xbox 360. It's for people who can't afford online and need a cheap Blu-ray.
rp108
Some lems fell for the flamebait and Midnightshade stepped in :P Also :lol: @ WilliamRLbaker saying infamous is the same game as prototype. It's like saying MGS4 is the same game as Splinter Cell just because they are stealth games.I like how this thread went on so long. TC provided no evidence whatsoever.
lundy86_4
both are great,both are imperfect,they complete each other (in terms of games that is),i own boh and they both kick some serious a$$,and those who say that the ps3 is better because of "hardware" the 360 is better because of the "software",that's just a simple example on why these two consoles are inseparable,another example you can find UC2 on the 3 but you can't find ME2 on it,you can find gears on the 360 but you can't find MGS4 (oh wait MGS is coming to the 360),your post is non-sense :DBut most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
thetruespin
And yet all the PS3 exclusives i've bought recently have got less play time then a game i bought 2 years ago.I never thought you were a lemming :? Guess British people are mad at Sony for the rip off pricing in pounds. :P-Snooze-
That argument is weak and subjective, I still play WC3 and CS more than any game released this gen, what's the point?
I never thought you were a lemming :? Guess British people are mad at Sony for the rip off pricing in pounds. :P[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]And yet all the PS3 exclusives i've bought recently have got less play time then a game i bought 2 years ago.
RavenLoud
That argument is weak and subjective, I still play WC3 and CS more than any game released this gen, what's the point?
And yet stronger than the argument that this thread is based on. Go figure.But most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
What a joke. I could get me a PS3 anytime I wanted.... I simply have 0% desire to get one. None. Whatsoever. Your blanket statement makes your sanity a bit... questionable. I will stick with what I prefer, and what I want. The Xbox 360, thank you very much. As a side note, good god it sucks having the company you work for firewall anything that has "games" in it. I have pretty much been cut off from anything game related during the week at work, when its slow. Ug.Really? I'd be a sad panda without my Killzone 2 and Uncharted, to go along with Mass Effect awesomeness. I also can't play Blu Ray's on my 360If i hadn't bought my PS3, i would be over £800 up, and far happier. I'm quite content with what the Xbox offers, the PS3 does not compliment it at all.
-Snooze-
I love this "real exclusives" argument. In fact 360 has more and better rated "real exclusives" and if we add 360/PC multiplats, the diference is just immense. Anyway, im glad system wars is the only place where ppl descredit 360...
Also going by the comparations, Bad Company 2 doesnt look better on PS3. PS3 has better looking vegetation; 360 has better shadows, water and frame rate.
But most PS3 owners are quite happy sticking with the PS3. Everyone knows whether the real exclusives are at, and with most multiplats looking the same or, in some cases, better on the PS3 (FF13 / Bad Company 2), there is really only one choice this gen.
Hell, even Valve, the PS3 haters, have changed their tune...
thetruespin
Everybody I know who owns a ps3 ended up buying a 360 too, or they already had a 360 when they bought their ps3, but none of them actually play their ps3s anymore. So I can confidently say that you're wrong. Boo.
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