From recent memory, (and yes I only post up ones that I've actually played) in no particular order, 1. Counter-Strike 1.6 + Source 2. Gears of War + 2 3. Unreal Tournament 2004 4. Halo 3 + Halo 2 5. Street Fighter (pretty much all of them) 6. Starcraft 2 7. DoTA 8. Battlefield 2 + Battlefield 2142 9. World of Warcraft 10. Call of Duty 4 ( not too good an example IMO its just because so many people still play it on PC and consoles and is featured heavily in circuits) 11. Painkiller 12. Quake 3 Arena What made me choose the candidates on this list? There should be clear gaps between skill levels. It shouldnt just be "good" or "bad" or even "good", "ok" and "bad". For example, in Gears 2 there are like five distinguishable skill levels, no joke. Generally the games have many "pro tactics" like wall bouncing in Gears, flag juggling in Halo, Zerg rushing in Starcraft 2 (maybe not a good example but. whatever), dolphin diving in BF2 before patch, combo breaking in Street Fighter, etc. It also helps if the game is featured in things like MLG, CPL, SK Gaming, Gamebattles, World Cyber Games, Evolution Championship Series, etc. Games in general where you play to win and you come across many divas and people playing it like its real life hangman. It also helps if the developers accomadate towards the hypercompetitive scene through allowing clan tags, certain playlists dedicated to this, IMO include game mechanics that are hard to use, hard to master but very rewarding and so on. Remember, this is only from my experience. I dont care if there is like a $1,000,000 Tekken 6 world cup or something. I havent played the game so why would I post it up? I was also thinking about putting up FIFA but come on, that is more linked to what the game is based off, not the game itself. If you disagree with me, that's fine. But if you're not going to say why or post up your own list, then gtfo.
The Street Fighter franchise or fighters in general(RTS as well actually) It's a genre built entirely on the concept of winning and losing. None of this K/D bullcrap, these levels, unlocks, perks, and teams. This is just the best of the best. one on one in a pure test of reflex, adaptability, and control of the system. Few genres test your skill like some of the best fighters, and even fewer can match Street Fighter. Plus that whole evo tournament(I don't know the name) speaks for itself.
MY RTS pick is Starcraft.
FPS it's Counterstrike in a no contest
Sports games wise I'm going with Madden. tons of "core audience" pretentious gamers assume that there actually isn't much to the game. Most of them would be wrong.
[QUOTE="BELOW_MEE"]IMO Im just looking at games like MW2 and I just dont see a huge skill gap. Its just "noobs", "pubs" and "quick scoping douches". BPoole96
Wth is a "pub"
On topic: I'd say RTS and Fighters are the most competitive and require the most skill and patience. Funny, since I don't play either of these genres
Public. Apparently the term, "Pubstar" is derogative.
[QUOTE="BELOW_MEE"]IMO Im just looking at games like MW2 and I just dont see a huge skill gap. Its just "noobs", "pubs" and "quick scoping douches". BELOW_MEE
Wth is a "pub"
On topic: I'd say RTS and Fighters are the most competitive and require the most skill and patience. Funny, since I don't play either of these genres
Public. Apparently the term, "Pubstar" is derogative.
Would that be like someone who does well in public lobbies but doesn't play competitively?
Starsiege Tribes deserves to be at the top of that list and no one has even mentioned it. :?
BELOW_MEE
Never heard of it. Every single one of those games on my list is still going stong today. Does Starsiege Tribes still have a large active community?
:shock: Never heard of Tribes? I feel old. :(
Yes, there are still active servers going. After Vivendi dropped the official master server, the community took over and now there's a few master servers. Most people choose one based on location.
Starsiege Tribes deserves to be at the top of that list and no one has even mentioned it. :?
br0kenrabbit
Never heard of it. Every single one of those games on my list is still going stong today. Does Starsiege Tribes still have a large active community?
:shock: Never heard of Tribes? I feel old. :(
Yes, there are still active servers going. After Vivendi dropped the official master server, the community took over and now there's a few master servers. Most people choose one based on location.
SSBM requires a ridiculous amount of technical skill and was the largest console tournament game besides Halo 2 last gen. It has more depth and strategy than Brawl and its tournament scene was huge. A lot of the big-name players are known very well and their matchup videos are famous, especially the final round between PCChris and Ken. I'd say it deserves the top spot on your list.
Starcraft 2 has to top the list. I've never seen a game so entertaining to watch, and with so many options for the players to strategize with. I've never played the game, but I still watch a load of shoutcasts.
One day I'm going to move to Korea and become a pro Starcraft 2 player. It is my destiny.
THETRUEDOZAH
lol then it must be competitive if somoone who has never even played it thinks so. Off Topic/ All my South Korean friends are beasts at Starcraft lmao
There's a big difference between the most popular competitive games and which games are the best for competitive play (requiring the most skill and therefore having the largest skill differentiation between new players and professionals).
insert most fighting games here. would have fought you would have mentioned street fighter at least conisdering how much hype and money people get out of these tourneys
insert most fighting games here. would have fought you would have mentioned street fighter at least conisdering how much hype and money people get out of these tourneysdonaldo1989
Its actually right next to Halo. Take note. IT doesnt allow me to space it below.
Street Fighter series. It takes skills, hours to days of practice, great reflexes, dedication, and sometimes even talent. I play a lot, but I'm no where as good as a lot of those players in EVO tournaments.
There's a big difference between the most popular competitive games and which games are the best for competitive play (requiring the most skill and therefore having the largest skill differentiation between new players and professionals).CentricStorm
How about giving us some examples of what you're talking about?
Street Fighter series. It takes skills, hours to days of practice, great reflexes, dedication, and sometimes even talent. I play a lot, but I'm no where as good as a lot of those players in EVO tournaments.
[QUOTE="CentricStorm"]There's a big difference between the most popular competitive games and which games are the best for competitive play (requiring the most skill and therefore having the largest skill differentiation between new players and professionals).majadamus
How about giving us some examples of what you're talking about?
...and to think that I was simply referring to the games where people care the most about winning. Way to complicate things CentricStorm.
[QUOTE="CentricStorm"]There's a big difference between the most popular competitive games and which games are the best for competitive play (requiring the most skill and therefore having the largest skill differentiation between new players and professionals).majadamus
How about giving us some examples of what you're talking about?
For the purposes of this I will just refer to FPS games: Some of the most popular (i.e. most often played) competitive games: Call of Duty 4 (Xbox 360/PS3), Halo Series (Xbox 360). Some of the games that are the most skill-based (i.e. highest difference between new players and veterans): Quake Series (PC), Counter Strike Series (PC).
Um why aren't quake 3 Arena and sarcraft up on the top?? AS well as Halo 3?? last time i checked they still have had more money in those tourneys, Halo 3 for MLG has 100,000 dollar first prize at every nationals.
Um why aren't quake 3 Arena and sarcraft up on the top?? AS well as Halo 3?? last time i checked they still have had more money in those tourneys, Halo 3 for MLG has 100,000 dollar first prize at every nationals.Sniping_Crowbar
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Um why aren't quake 3 Arena and sarcraft up on the top?? AS well as Halo 3?? last time i checked they still have had more money in those tourneys, Halo 3 for MLG has 100,000 dollar first prize at every nationals.Sniping_Crowbar
Halo 3 is one of the most popular competitive games, but it doesn't compare to a lot of PC games with regard to how competitive the gameplay is itself. There's a lot of aim assist in that game (and correct me if I am wrong, but the aim assist is actually allowed in MLG tournaments) which drastically reduces the skill requirement for Halo 3. There is a lot less difference between a professional and a new player in Halo 3 than there is in a PC game such as Counter Strike: Source. It still takes a lot of skill to play at professional level but it can't be compared to Counter Strike or Quake.
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