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Square-Enix
Squaresoft was great.
Enix was great.
SE is not.
Then they underrate developers like 5 Levels & Atlus .
Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.PBSnipes
true. they make good games every year but never great ones
who do you feel is the most overrated developer? i'd have to go with Valve since i feel their games really aren't that great and are average at best.Zero5000X
I'm sorry, how can you possibly say valve, out of all the other developers out there (Ubi Montreal, Epic anyone?).
They are the ONLY developers besides bungie that actually listen to their fanbase and provide quality shooters, and update them regularly.
There are way more overrated devs than valve.
Underrated goes to Naughty dog, fo sho.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.blackice1983
true. they make good games every year but never great ones
Some of the Ratchet and Clank games and Spyro games were classics. Like Spyro 2
insomniac
a generic shooter and a mediocre mario ripoff fior furries does not make an impressive back catalogue
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]who do you feel is the most overrated developer? i'd have to go with Valve since i feel their games really aren't that great and are average at best.ice144
I'm sorry, how can you possibly say valve, out of all the other developers out there (Ubi Montreal, Epic anyone?).
They are the ONLY developers besides bungie that actually listen to their fanbase and provide quality shooters, and update them regularly.
There are way more overrated devs than valve.
Underrated goes to Naughty dog, fo sho.
Insomniac have a regular podcast and talk on their forums alot :S
I really wish Naughty Dog would bring back Crash Bandicoot.
Not the crappy new wave one, the old school island running one was so much fun. some of the best platforming ever.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.blackice1983
true. they make good games every year but never great ones
Diablo 1 - AAA ; Diablo 2 : AA; Diablo 2 LOD : AA
WC2: AAA ; WC3: AAA; WC: TFT AAA; WoW: AAA; WoW BC: AAA; WoW:WOTLK AAA potential
SC: AAA
I think Blizzard makes great games :P Practically each one of their games is a masterpiece, imo at least.
On topic: I think Square is pretty over rated cos I never got into the FF series. I just couldn't take the "you attack me now I attack you" system.
I really wish Naughty Dog would bring back Crash Bandicoot.
Not the crappy new wave one, the old school island running one was so much fun. some of the best platforming ever.
SwiftDragon616
They can't, they sold their Crash licences.
Jak maybe a possible choice though...
[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.the_one34
true. they make good games every year but never great ones
Diablo 1 - AAA ; Diablo 2 : AA; Diablo 2 LOD : AA
WC2: AAA ; WC3: AAA; WC: TFT AAA; WoW: AAA; WoW BC: AAA; WoW:WOTLK AAA potential
SC: AAA
I think Blizzard makes great games :P Practically each one of their games is a masterpiece, imo at least.
I do believe that they were talking about Insomniac, not Blizzard.
EDIT: or were you just making a comment about how blizzard makes great games?
[QUOTE="blackice1983"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.the_one34
true. they make good games every year but never great ones
Diablo 1 - AAA ; Diablo 2 : AA; Diablo 2 LOD : AA
WC2: AAA ; WC3: AAA; WC: TFT AAA; WoW: AAA; WoW BC: AAA; WoW:WOTLK AAA potential
SC: AAA
I think Blizzard makes great games :P Practically each one of their games is a masterpiece, imo at least.
i was refering to insomniac the others he listed make godly games
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.mingo123
sadly all devs you listed except insomaniac, are indeed overrated
Wtfook....Blizzard and Bioware overrated?Are you serious?P.S.-Nevermind,it's your opinion.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.mingo123
sadly all devs you listed except insomaniac, are indeed overrated
how is blizzard overated,
people are still playing thier games that are like 10 years old. i would say they are most likly the best devellopers as far as gameplay is concerned, graphics might not be thier forte but they are awesome
i've logged on to warcraft 2( just for kicks, i do have warcraft 3 tft) once last year and there were still people playing it. thats more then i can say for almost any other devs games
Id add blizzard also, WoW is heavily, heavily Overrated.
Most people don't even regard that they actually had MMO's before it, like WoW, EQ, AC, etc.
The only reason I still support blizzard somewhat is because of their awesome Diablo Series, Hopefully Diablo 3 will follow the same formula as 1 and 2, The last thing we need is another cell shaded MMO with 13 year olds screaming about loot in vent.
I would have to say that no developer is truly overrated. They have their reputations for a reason, and, though your tastes may not be the same as those of their fanbases, the fans know what they like.thepwninator
And there we have it, the only true answer to this thread.
All popular developers got their reputations by doing something rightconsistently.
[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]who do you feel is the most overrated developer? i'd have to go with Valve since i feel their games really aren't that great and are average at best.ice144
I'm sorry, how can you possibly say valve, out of all the other developers out there (Ubi Montreal, Epic anyone?).
They are the ONLY developers besides bungie that actually listen to their fanbase and provide quality shooters, and update them regularly.
There are way more overrated devs than valve.
Underrated goes to Naughty dog, fo sho.
well i'm talking about most overrated here so you have to take into consieration the popularity of the company. Valve is an extremely popular PC developer. I personally feel they are overrated because I don't think their games are really that great or special.
Blizzard without a doubt, there's just so many blind Blizzard fanboys it's ridiculous.
Bu-but, 10 million suscribers, yeah.. and McDonalds are the biggest fast food chain, do you consider it the best food you've ever eaten?
They're great developers, I can't deny that, but the way some people are praising them is simply astonishing.
I don't even think reviewers would have the balls to rate Blizzard games lower than AA/AAA, people would be outraged, just look at GTAIV.
Blizzard without a doubt, there's just so many blind Blizzard fanboys it's ridiculous.
Bu-but, 10 million suscribers, yeah.. and McDonalds are the biggest fast food chain, do you consider it the best food you've ever eaten?
They're great developers, I can't deny that, but the way some people are praising them is simply astonishing.
I don't even think reviewers would have the balls to rate Blizzard games lower than AA/AAA, people would be outraged, just look at GTAIV.3XRatedlocc
About GtaIV's score, lets just say rockstar has their hands in the pockets of quite a few prominent people.
Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.PBSnipes
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.mingo123
sadly all devs you listed except insomaniac, are indeed overrated
Snipes:
gd call, R&C is no household name and Resistance wasn't exactly Mario status either.
migo:
Blizzard and Valve :| they brought us CSS HL, HL2, Warcraft, Diablo, WoW, TF2, Portal, DoD i would call all of those games legendary and thats 50% of them right there.
Blizzard without a doubt, there's just so many blind Blizzard fanboys it's ridiculous.
Bu-but, 10 million suscribers, yeah.. and McDonalds are the biggest fast food chain, do you consider it the best food you've ever eaten?
They're great developers, I can't deny that, but the way some people are praising them is simply astonishing.
I don't even think reviewers would have the balls to rate Blizzard games lower than AA/AAA, people would be outraged, just look at GTAIV.3XRatedlocc
So I'm guessing the only Blizzard game you've heard of is WOW?
Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.PBSnipes
I agree that Insomniac isn't as good as the ones that you listed but I have to disagree when you say they are overrated. Insomniac makes great games.
Infinity Ward, Square Enix, Epic, Bungie, and Blizzard.
If StarCraft II is really the second coming of Jesus Christ like it is supposed to be (:|), I will take it back.
If Square Enix's "The World Ends With You" is really a JRPG that mixes things up a bit, I will take it back. I still need to play it. I am really busy with Valve's amazing The Orange Box.
Infinity Ward, Bungie, and Epic... Sorry, you guys just aren't as awesome as people claim. I mean, really, what the hell was so special about Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, or Halo 3?
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]Insomniac. Nothing against them, but I've heard some people putting them up with the likes of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware.mingo123
sadly all devs you listed except insomaniac, are indeed overrated
:lol: @ you calling Blizzard overrated.
I'd say R*.
Infinity Ward, Square Enix, Epic, Bungie, and Blizzard.
If StarCraft II is really the second coming of Jesus Christ like it is supposed to be (:|), I will take it back.
If Square Enix's "The World Ends With You" is really a JRPG that mixes things up a bit, I will take it back. I still need to play it. I am really busy with Valve's amazing The Orange Box.
Infinity Ward, Bungie, and Epic... Sorry, you guys just aren't as awesome as people claim. I mean, really, what the hell was so special about Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, or Halo 3?
DeathScape666
So you say a dev becomes overrated because of 1 game you don't like?
[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]Infinity Ward, Square Enix, Epic, Bungie, and Blizzard.
If StarCraft II is really the second coming of Jesus Christ like it is supposed to be (:|), I will take it back.
If Square Enix's "The World Ends With You" is really a JRPG that mixes things up a bit, I will take it back. I still need to play it. I am really busy with Valve's amazing The Orange Box.
Infinity Ward, Bungie, and Epic... Sorry, you guys just aren't as awesome as people claim. I mean, really, what the hell was so special about Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, or Halo 3?
CDNSnipe
So you say a dev becomes overrated because of 1 game you don't like?
Nope, I was just pointing out their recent popular titles. ;) What? Do you want me to compile a list or something for you?
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