Most people havn't had a chance to truly experience KZ3. FACT!

Play the game with a sharpshooter. I had my doubt's when I played the beta with the move then I decided to drop 40 bucks on the sharpshooter. Took me about half hour to calibrate it and get comfortable with it and it's a mind blowingly blast. This alone is the biggest flop on Sony's end for not marketing it properly. True innovation really.

Do this before you bash me..... Play the game with the sharpshooter long enough to where you can get comfortable with it. If your lucky enough throw it on 3d alonside it. Nothing like it = innovation = fail for the masses to make judgement without trying this..

Cheer's to those who will still bash it without playing it 8)

If I use it, will it get rid of Rico??

Most people dont want to experience it.

Most people dont want to experience it.

RyanShazam

[QUOTE="RyanShazam"]

Most people dont want to experience it.

dabigsiebowski

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

I have a 3d bravia and the move. I'm playing KZ3 atm whitout any of it. Its better that way.

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

WilliamRLBaker

Most people dont want to experience it.

RyanShazam

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

WilliamRLBaker

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

WilliamRLBaker

This is the thing, ANYONE can bash ANY game! We hae no idea to know if a they actually played the game or not. Right when someone bashes a game peoples first instinct is that they didnt play the game. We have no way to tell if someone actually played a game or not. What are you gonna do? Make them show their PSN or XBL ID? ANyways there is no point arguing whether someone has the game or not.

It's funny because I rarely see threads pop up that say something negative about Killzone 3. In fact, I see threads that pop about how awesome Killzone 3 is and how GS under-rated it and then I see it compared to Halo 3: ODST instead of Halo: Reach. And it is in response to all of these damage control threads where I start to see negative comments about Killzone.

I'm just stating what I've seen on these forums for the past week or so, but there are more active threads posted right now about how Killzone is better than Halo, unfairly judged, better than Halo and unfairly judged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that either....

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

Chutebox

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

WilliamRLBaker

He didn't even mention Halo :?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

Iantheone

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

ODST is terrible? This is news to me. :|

KZ3 is a flop .FACT!

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

UnrealLegend

He didn't even mention Halo :?

Its ok its WilliamRLbaker he just jumps the gun every time he gets defensive. Think or read before you type. Also he does not know who GoldmanSachs is. He thought they were a gaming analyst.

Apart from the whole vast majority of people not even owning a PS3 so it would be assumed that they haven't "experienced" kz3, on your localized issue, have you considered that alot of people just don't want to play killzone with a plastic gun that has a glowing ball on the end?

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] News flash: games don't score high because of graphics. 3 out of the 4 kz games scored AA or higher. That's pretty damn good.

NeonNinja

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

ODST is terrible? This is news to me. :|

As a wii owner who has experienced his fair share of useless controller attatchments, I dissagree wholeheartedly :P

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

UnrealLegend

He didn't even mention Halo :?

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

Iantheone

ODST is terrible? This is news to me. :|

I can get behind that. :P

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

NeonNinja

He didn't even mention Halo :?

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

It doesn't look like damage control to me, the TC is just saying that KZ3 plays better with the sharpshooter.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

He didn't even mention Halo :?

UnrealLegend

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

It doesn't look like damage control to me, the TC is just saying that KZ3 plays better with the sharpshooter.

He does say, "Cheer's to those who will still bash it without playing it "

I don't bash KZ, I haven't played it do so, but I can see what Baker is saying about how the TC thinks the game can be judged without people playing it/playing it 'properly' in his way.

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

NeonNinja

He didn't even mention Halo :?

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

NeonNinja

It doesn't look like damage control to me, the TC is just saying that KZ3 plays better with the sharpshooter.

He does say, "Cheer's to those who will still bash it without playing it "

Oh, okay. I didn't see that.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

AHHHHH so thats it...The excuse is that because people haven't played KZ3 they are unable or have no right to bash KZ3...yet the majority of people that bash, hate on halo asa franchise haven't experienced it but because they are bashing halo then its perfectly okay right?

How about you just accept the fact that Killzone as a series isn't very good, all it has is 2 games that were top in graphics otherwise in design, story...etc the series and games aren't very good? Instead of putting up conspiracy theories.

Iantheone

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

[QUOTE="Iantheone"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] News flash: games don't score high because of graphics. 3 out of the 4 kz games scored AA or higher. That's pretty damn good.

walkingdream

Didnt ODST score like a 9.0 or something? And we all know how horrible of a game that one is.

Sony didn't flop with marketing ...

KZ3 ad's are all over the TV in the UK, during, before and after every movie channels like ITV.

Sony are doing prettty well with throwing cash for ad's. They even got a popular band N-Dubz to film an entire video for a song using graphics from Little Big Planet 2.

Why do most others say Killzone 3 flopped? I fail to understand. Was it hyped for a 9 or something?

Why do most others say Killzone 3 flopped? I fail to understand. Was it hyped for a 9 or something?

Calvin079

0.5 difference is a flop? lol. Thats not a flop in my books. The score would have to be at least drop 1 or more before before I could consider it that.

I've heard it's extremely good with the Move, the sharpshooter as well, I do want to try it but I still have a few old games to get and $140 is too high of a price right now.

Also yeah people who do bash it without playing it are cute aren't they.

No thanks. I did here a few people discussing how move will take the ps3 online shooter space by storm during some kz3 mp. I didn't score very well using it.:P

Killzone franchise is just mediocre when compared to others like Halo or COD deal with it.

I'll buy it around when Socom 4 comes out. Why? Well I honestly don't care much for Socom 4, but for $150, you get the move, nav, eye, sharpshooter and the game. Without the game, buying everything used, you can get it at $130!

So when April rolls around, I'll grab KZ3 and give it a try.

Play the game with a sharpshooter. I had my doubt's when I played the beta with the move then I decided to drop 40 bucks on the sharpshooter. Took me about half hour to calibrate it and get comfortable with it and it's a mind blowingly blast. This alone is the biggest flop on Sony's end for not marketing it properly. True innovation really.

Do this before you bash me..... Play the game with the sharpshooter long enough to where you can get comfortable with it. If your lucky enough throw it on 3d alonside it. Nothing like it = innovation = fail for the masses to make judgement without trying this..

Cheer's to those who will still bash it without playing it 8)

dabigsiebowski

didnt Quack Attack on the SNES do basically the same thing more than a decade ago:P? without the 3D of course, but thats been done DECADES ago lol. i mean i even had the gun...why is it innovative now? especially when Metroid on the Wii did it first and better.

0.5 difference is a flop? lol. Thats not a flop in my books. The score would have to be at least drop 1 or more before before I could consider it that.

Calvin079

well thank God u live in ur own little world then, half the flops here are gone. since Alane Wake didnt flop to you in your world u should pick it up, great game...

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

He didn't even mention Halo :?

UnrealLegend

He's trying to make a point about how people hate games regardless of if they have played or not. Halo is mentioned because its always compared to Killzone (even though both games look quite different actually).

Based on the TC's initial post he makes it seem as if it is only Killzone 3 that is earning this treatment. Baker isn't making a Halo VS KZ argument here, he's proving a point that the TC is simply doing damage control for the game.

It doesn't look like damage control to me, the TC is just saying that KZ3 plays better with the sharpshooter.

Killzone franchise is just mediocre when compared to others like Halo or COD deal with it.

AnxietyAttack

[QUOTE="AnxietyAttack"]

Killzone franchise is just mediocre when compared to others like Halo or COD deal with it.

incuensuocha

forget about the sharpshooter... a lot of bashers here dont even own a ps3campzor

^Bingo

[QUOTE="incuensuocha"][QUOTE="AnxietyAttack"]

Killzone franchise is just mediocre when compared to others like Halo or COD deal with it.

AnxietyAttack

Metacritic

Halo Reach - 91 (Halo: Combat Evolved - 97 Halo 3- 94)

Killzone 3 - 85 (Killzone 2 - 91 Killzone 1 - 70)

Damn it, I dven have the mon get the game and now I have to get the sharpshooter to fully experience it ... not fair :? .

wait a sec. am i in the right place?

in the sw that i know if you spend so much as one penny on any accessory that didn't come with the system that makes your gaming experence better you are a crazy fool who is getting milked and are singlehandedly bringing the entire industry down with your example of wasting money.

so what changed? it's for ps3?