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#51 VulcanMage119
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All good points. I'm not obsessed with graphics, because I don't want them now, but I don't want them 4 years from now, I would like them no more than 3 years from now. this is just a point I've been thinking of. I'm not losing sleep over it, and I ALWAYS appreciate games, no matter what, my favorite game to this day is FF7 and I loved that game WAAAAY before it was ever popular. it was just awesome, a 10 in my book. And I love megaman and sonic. Although I've never really been a fan of mario I still played it. I even love the freakin kirby games, and FF:Mystic quest I love that stuff.

EDIT: oh and I got to a 47 in Halo 2 without mods so what now?!? lol j/k

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I stand corrected. I just got the impression from your first post that you ONLY care about the next thing.

It's A ok my friend, I know what it's like sometimes you get on SW and there's so many retarded things being said (some of them from me I'll admit) and you just wanna jump all over someone and show'em how big of a knobb they are lol But I edited some of the OP to reflect both our arguments and hopefully make it look less like I'm just trolling

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#52 surrealnumber5
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If you think Next Gen Should start in 2012, you're not a hardcore gamer. FACT.

VulcanMage119

so hard core is based on visuals of games that seems like a casual view to me

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#53 VulcanMage119
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

I remember when gamers wanted AWESOME games, with AWESOME gameplay, and wanted to see the next big thing, and were yelling at the console-makers "GIVE US THE NEXT THING!" and "PLLLLEEEASE HURRY!" but now... now you've got people wanting a 7-8 year gap between consoles? That's rediculous, who wants to wait EIGHT years of your life before a new console comes out? if you're 20, you will be almost 30 years old before a new console comes out... that's a bit rediculous IMFO...

And for systemwars quota: The ps3 is outdated, and won't make it 6 years without a new console, it's gonna look archaic.

the 360 is not going to be dropped when the new xbox comes out, because it MAKES MS money instead of losing it. it's gonna be there for a while. So why not let the people who would like to get the new hardware get it? otherwise everyone who wants real games are just going to PC. I prefer consoles, but do you know how much changes in EIGHT DAMN years for PC's? they're gonna have awesome games that make crysis look like a joke, and we're not even going to be able to have their lowest end games, and still some people will be saying, T3H c377 is amazing and teh ps3 is a 24yr console!

If you think Next Gen Should start in 2012, you're not a gamer FACT.

Coyo7e

1) I agree there are a lot of casuals. The vast majority of people playing games now are casual But it isn't the "hardcore" gamers demanding the next big thing the way you claim. THAT is the casual and always has been. I have been gaming since the begining of consoles. ANd the only time I've ever heard people whining and begging for the next big thing is fairly recently in the industry. It has become much more common NOW that casuals dominate. Why? Because casuals only care about gaming so long as they believe it defines them. Therefore, they only care about something for as long as they can show it off, or impress their friends, etc. Once that wears off, they are whining for the next "big thing" because they define themsevles through their accessories and possessions and gaming is now one of those accessories.

Back in the day, people were playing games of all kinds and loving them. Sure, we looked forward to the new consoles one day coming out, but mostly we worried about the PRESENT and playing as much as we could. It was pointless to obsess about something years into the future when there were great games NOW to play.

2) Y0u have shown you have no idea what you are talking about and how you are a casual yourself. I would also go so far as to say you are not a gamer because you are more worried about graphics and tech than actual games. The PS3 is far from outdated as a console. We are only now seeing hints of what it can do. And nobody has ever said another console won't come out. Just that the PS3, like the PS1 and PS2 before it, will be supported for 10 years. This is an indisputable fact.

3) YOu can't guarantee that won't be the case. I personally think the 360 will stick around, but MS has already killed off one console to essentially force people to buy their next gen. MS doesn't just (wrongly) believe in the headstart...they NEED it. And the best way to get that headstart is to kill the previous console. Having said that though, MS needed the headstart this gen, but they probably won't need it next gen. As you said, they are making money and have been fairly successful with the 360. But nothing is set in stone. Who would have thought a couple years ago that Sony would launch a console at $600?

Well said about the definition of the casual gamer. It is the casuals that are so horny for the next generation and when it arrives, forget about the older stuff. Some of the best ps2 games came out so late in it's life. Some after the ps3 was already out.

I never forget the older games, never will and I hang on to older systems like a life raft ha ah ask Caitlin :P

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#54 VulcanMage119
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[QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

If you think Next Gen Should start in 2012, you're not a hardcore gamer. FACT.

surrealnumber5

so hard core is based on visuals of games that seems like a casual view to me

read through the thread

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#55 Ninten007
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Heck no. These gaming consoles are getting more expensive as time goes along. If I invent in a 450 dollar console, I expect it to have some support for a very long time.

There is no need to rush into next gen because if you do, the next XBOX and PS will cost 1,000 and no one wants that.

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#56 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

If you think Next Gen Should start in 2012, you're not a hardcore gamer. FACT.

VulcanMage119

so hard core is based on visuals of games that seems like a casual view to me

read through the thread

nah id rather just respond to the thesis it was the genesis of the thread

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#57 VulcanMage119
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Heck no. These gaming consoles are getting more expensive as time goes along. If I invent in a 450 dollar console, I expect it to have some support for a very long time.

There is no need to rush into next gen because if you do, the next XBOX and PS will cost 1,000 and no one wants that.

Ninten007

But it's not right now, but say 2-3 years from now, that's a long time if you think about it, and I'm sure that games will still be coming out for the current consoles. It just gives the people the option to upgrade if they want.

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#58 VulcanMage119
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[QUOTE="VulcanMage119"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="VulcanMage119"]

If you think Next Gen Should start in 2012, you're not a hardcore gamer. FACT.

surrealnumber5

so hard core is based on visuals of games that seems like a casual view to me

read through the thread

nah id rather just respond to the thesis it was the genesis of the thread

re-read it

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#59 Scar3
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[QUOTE="clone01"]sounds like TC should be PC gaming.VulcanMage119

I don't want a pc, I got a Dodge viper to upgrade

haha lol a viper
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#60 VulcanMage119
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[QUOTE="clone01"]sounds like TC should be PC gaming.Scar3

I don't want a pc, I got a Dodge viper to upgrade

haha lol a viper

You don't like them?

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#61 Bubblehash
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I have said it before and I will say it again. If the next gen consoles launch before 2012, I will skip next gen and be PC only.
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#62 naruto7777
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blog it
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#63 deactivated-57d773aa56272
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To move video games hard science simulations are necessary. Flight simulators are fine and movement away from the standard gamepad is key. Video Games still seen as "toys"