MS announced 360 is headed to 40 million sales mark...Past 39 million so far

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Hmm, witht the PS3 catching up quickly......It's a race thats for sure

is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

Those numbers are wrong.

*Sigh*

Your on a roll with these MS news :lol:

Really strong sales. Wonder what sony is at too. Probably at 35-36 million mark.

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

VGchartz - Really :?

On topic - I'm guessing those are the shipped figures. Sony is probably in the mid 30's.

To answer another poster, Xbox uses Sold to retailer numbers, shipped.They always will use Ship Numbers, Sony used to but changed that a few years back. It's argued back and forth, in the end, it doesn't matter. Let Xbox put up whatever numbers they want.

That's okay, in the end, who cares?

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360 is at 39 million, that's good.

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Also, TC, they didn't announce they were headed to 40 million, they announced they were at 39. So your thread's title is not true regarding what they announced, however, it's obvious to anyone that they aren't going to stop at 39, but there was no need to make a false statement about their XBox announcements.

They did not announce the 360 is headed to 40 million, please rephrase that false reporting.

Here is the link :

"Looks like Microsoft CES script got online before the conference started and Microsoft Reveals the newest xbox 360 sales numbers!"

"There are now over 39 million Xbox 360 consoles around the world" (see, they are careful, they say "around the world" )

The important part is what they announced, they didn't announced a heading in that link. So, this thread is incorrect.

is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

___gamemaster__

"Shipped", for those of you worried about that meaningless distinction.

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is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

PBSnipes

"Shipped", for those of you worried about that meaningless distinction.

Meaningless to fanboys who's more than happy to mix fact with fiction (mostly the other way around).

All these companies ...all of them....use shipped numbers. It would be a real pain to get every little tiny and big electronics shop to send in their own personal number of units sold off of their own shelves to tally up to get an actual sold number. Just think about it really. Anyone claiming that one company or the other does actual sold numbers is either really misinformed or is a pathalogical liar on the internet!

39 million shipped is good. I wonder how much ground Sony has made?

is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

___gamemaster__

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

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is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

Blue-Sky

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

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is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

ActicEdge

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

pretty much what ActicEdge says. and i didnt say 39M for shipped or sold are bad numbers. :)

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

___gamemaster__

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

pretty much what ActicEdge says. and i didnt say 39M for shipped or sold are bad numbers. :)

But it doesn't matter if it's shipped or sold. Whether it's sitting in a retailer's store or in some guy's house. Microsoft wins. I don't understand why you guys feel its necessary to separate sold to retailer or consumer when the reality. If MS told their investors that they shipped 1000 units but only sold 800K, its good news. If MS told their investors, they shipped 1200 units but only sold 700k, thats even better news. As long as theres a high demand, there's no issue.

But why is there a need to make a distinction? If anything this affects retailers more than it does the 1st party manufactures and the consumers.

ms must have not done as well during the holidays compared to ninty and sony since they didnt go that same approach and announce what they sold. still have to wait for npds to confirm my theory but that is still my take. xbox360isgr8t

[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]ms must have not done as well during the holidays compared to ninty and sony since they didnt go that same approach and announce what they sold. still have to wait for npds to confirm my theory but that is still my take. monson21502

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Those numbers are wrong.

The_Game21x

You're confusing me! Stop it! :cry:

VGChartz = Truth!

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is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

ActicEdge

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

That can sometimes be true but when something is continually being shipped, its a good indication that they are not mounting up on store-shelves (unless they are big stores :P). So in this case, while the 360/PS3/Wii continue to sell..shipped numbers are good :D

Good numbers!

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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

Blue-Sky

pretty much what ActicEdge says. and i didnt say 39M for shipped or sold are bad numbers. :)

But it doesn't matter if it's shipped or sold. Whether it's sitting in a retailer's store or in some guy's house. Microsoft wins. I don't understand why you guys feel its necessary to separate sold to retailer or consumer when the reality. If MS told their investors that they shipped 1000 units but only sold 800K, its good news. If MS told their investors, they shipped 1200 units but only sold 700k, thats even better news. As long as theres a high demand, there's no issue.

But why is there a need to make a distinction? If anything this affects retailers more than it does the 1st party manufactures and the consumers.

While they 'continue' to ship consoles it implies their is a demand from them from retailers...shipped/sold...its a null point.

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Those numbers are wrong.

Kickinurass

VGchartz - Really :?

On topic - I'm guessing those are the shipped figures. Sony is probably in the mid 30's.

He's obviously alluding to how far off VGchartz numbers are off. Were are all those COWS teh vgchartz there in da ballprkz derp derp. Yah 3 million off the real WW sales numbers that's in the ballpark LMAO

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is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

ActicEdge

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

With the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii as popular as they are, shipped numbers are as accurate as you can get. I doubt 2 weeks from now, too many consoles will be just "sitting" on store shelves.

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer??? I guess it's good to have faulty hardware when it comes to these numbers.

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

AdjacentLives

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

With the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii as popular as they are, shipped numbers are as accurate as you can get. I doubt 2 weeks from now, too many consoles will be just "sitting" on store shelves.

How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer???Martin_G_N

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

If you are taking a snipe at VG Charts I tip my hat.

Still, when will the day come when VG Chart banter is un-mod-friendly as on NeoGaf.

That would clear things up, especially misinformation rather quickly.

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer???IronBass

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer???IronBass

20 million people is on LIVE, that is'nt exactly a huge number considering the online part is the X360's strongest side. So I would assume that out of the first 10 million consoles or so sold, the RROD number is quite high. Most of my friends that have X360's have gone through at least 2 X360's each, and one is on his 4th.Martin_G_N

Live's numbers do not mean much. For examble, PSN has like 40M members, and there are 50 PSP and 35 PS3 sold.

Your anecdotal evidence does not mean much, either, so I'll repeat myself, if those numbers were inflated, the 360 attach rate would not possibly be as big as it is.

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Those numbers are wrong.

Ultra_Combo

VGchartz - Really :?

On topic - I'm guessing those are the shipped figures. Sony is probably in the mid 30's.

He's obviously alluding to how far off VGchartz numbers are off. Were are all those COWS teh vgchartz there in da ballprkz derp derp. Yah 3 million off the real WW sales numbers that's in the ballpark LMAO

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer???sonny2dap

VG should be close as they are using sold numbers and not shipped.killzowned24

Besides, the difference between shipped and sold is a meaningless one, since retailers keep getting shippments, meaning all the previously shipped consoles are sold.

I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

Kashiwaba

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]VG should be close as they are using sold numbers and not shipped.IronBass

Besides, the difference between shipped and sold is a meaningless one, since retailers keep getting shippments, meaning all the previously shipped consoles are sold.

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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]VG should be close as they are using sold numbers and not shipped.killzowned24

Besides, the difference between shipped and sold is a meaningless one, since retailers keep getting shippments, meaning all the previously shipped consoles are sold.

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I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

IronBass

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

Kashiwaba

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.