MS announced 360 is headed to 40 million sales mark...Past 39 million so far

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

Kashiwaba

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

Hmm i wonder if MS can reach 50 million by the end of this gen. That would be double what they sold last gen, very impressive.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

I'm really starting to feel that MS isn't giving us the real numbers.

Kashiwaba

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] You "feel" MS would something as dangerous as that based on...?IronBass

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

Well this is what I found in Wiki:

On May 28, 2009, Microsoft announced that sales have surpassed the 30-million unit-mark

I was wrong it was on May not August but still 9 mils in 7 months still hard to believe.

And I'm not wrong.

Apr. 29, 2009

"The company announced it has shipped 30.2 million Xbox 360 systems worldwide since the console launched back in 2005."

Report for the quarter ending March 31, 2009.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

Kashiwaba

Well this is what I found in Wiki:

On May 28, 2009, Microsoft announced that sales have surpassed the 30-million unit-mark

I was wrong it was on May not August but still 9 mils in 7 months still hard to believe.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] If I'm not wrong, they reported 30.2M sold in March, not August.IronBass

Well this is what I found in Wiki:

On May 28, 2009, Microsoft announced that sales have surpassed the 30-million unit-mark

I was wrong it was on May not August but still 9 mils in 7 months still hard to believe.

How is 29 April to 7 January 10 months? thats 8 months and few days exactly.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] If I'm not wrong, they reported 30.2M sold in March, not August.IronBass

Well this is what I found in Wiki:

On May 28, 2009, Microsoft announced that sales have surpassed the 30-million unit-mark

I was wrong it was on May not August but still 9 mils in 7 months still hard to believe.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216343.html

How is 29 April to 7 January 10 months? thats 8 months and few days exactly.Kashiwaba

Id say a 1/3 of those are xbox users who have bought another after their first failed. shabab12

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Well this is what I found in Wiki:

On May 28, 2009, Microsoft announced that sales have surpassed the 30-million unit-mark

I was wrong it was on May not August but still 9 mils in 7 months still hard to believe.

shinrabanshou

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6216343.html

See they report different numbers every few months thats why I think they are not reporting the real numbers.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

ActicEdge

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

See they report different numbers every few months thats why I think they are not reporting the real numbers.Kashiwaba

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]How is 29 April to 7 January 10 months? thats 8 months and few days exactly.IronBass

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6237794.html

So that would imply a 5 million increase in the last two months of the year.

Those are of course the biggest shopping months, though.

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] You "feel" MS would something as dangerous as that based on...?shinrabanshou

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Last August they said they sold 31 mils 360s and now after 5 months it increased to 39 mils 8 mils in 5 months seems unreasonable.

lhughey

For example: Nintendo indicates their 3 million Wiis figure for the US is a sold through figure here and Sony's recent press release indicates their worldwide figure is for retail sold through.

How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer??? I guess it's good to have faulty hardware when it comes to these numbers.

Martin_G_N

Some of you dont have an idea how this works...now let me explain.Shipped=Sold to Microsoft.Why?Well it works like this...retailers buy xbox 360 consoles from microsoft if they think there is demand for it...microsoft sales them consloles then retaliers sell it to us...Those shipped units WILL be sold to costumers,its how it works...and no,Sony does not count sold to costumers units because it is impossible.

All these companies ...all of them....use shipped numbers. It would be a real pain to get every little tiny and big electronics shop to send in their own personal number of units sold off of their own shelves to tally up to get an actual sold number. Just think about it really. Anyone claiming that one company or the other does actual sold numbers is either really misinformed or is a pathalogical liar on the internet!

vaderhater

*sigh*

The issue is that there are two seperate types of shipped numbers. The shipping of consoles that were manufactured to regional storage...and the consoles that are shipped from regional storage to retailers. These have ALWAYS been considered shipped and sold, respectively, because consoles that are shipped from regional distribution are considered SOLD by the companies.

So any time console companies say the number of consoles SOLD, they are referring to the number they have SOLD to retailers. That number is as accurate as anyone can get as most retailers order new stock on a weekly to monthly basis. That means that if they over order one week/month, they will order less the next and all sales will balance out.

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer??? I guess it's good to have faulty hardware when it comes to these numbers.

blue_hazy_basic

Well, to be fair, they learned that excuse from the lemmings last gen. You may recall "PS2 numbers are highly inflated because of DRE." "Of course multiplats will sell more on PS2, there's more consoles!"

I must say back in 2007 I didn't think this would happen, MS marketting is a force to be reckoned with no matter what the quality of the product is.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

is it shipped or sold? im not sure. :?

ActicEdge

Let's say they are shipped. So whats the problem? I never understood why some people feel its necessary to make the distinction when it really doesn't matter.

Shipped units can simply sit in store never being bought up. Sold means consumers have them. I like to use MH3 as an example. It shipped 1.1 million units and has sold 960k. there are literally 1000s of units sitting in stores that cannot be sold off. The game will not get a second shipment. I apply the same logic to consoles though not as extreme. Also, its just more realistic to compare sold with sold and shipped with shipped.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer???Martin_G_N

If a 360 was replaced under warranty, it does not count as sales. Period. The same for any other item replaced under warranty.

VGchartz are off by nearly 3 million. Brilliant.ToScA-

i'm guessing shipped

VGchartz are off by nearly 3 million. Brilliant.ToScA-

1- VGcharts sucks (it's written with a Z).

2- Having established that they suck bear in mind that M$ numbers are sold to retailers, VCchartzzzz is to customers.

3- They may not have update to the holiday yet.

4- 10% isn't that bad considering that they are doing guesestimates.

5- They still suck.

[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

How many of these "shipped" numbers are faulty X360's that have been changed out by the consumer??? I guess it's good to have faulty hardware when it comes to these numbers.

blue_hazy_basic

Those numbers are wrong.

Rikusaki

So, how does this compare to the total PS3's sold worldwide?racing1750

[QUOTE="racing1750"]So, how does this compare to the total PS3's sold worldwide?moose_knuckler

Noth uh, they buy a new one instead of free repairs , right Cows :lol:

To you and everyone else wondering, this is shipped not sold to consumersmoose_knuckler

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]To you and everyone else wondering, this is shipped not sold to consumersIronBass

Yes it's makes some people feel better , they like to think there's 3 million 360's sitting on shelves.

i'm guessing shipped

Squall18

[QUOTE="Squall18"]

i'm guessing shipped

FIipMode

They all use shipped numbers though, as they can only track the amount of consoles they've shipped (i.e sold) to retailers.

Who cares 40 million is a milestone to MS........Congratz 360 is such a great console :)