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#1 Animal-Mother
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In response to sony home= Fail thread, How are the ms avatars any better? Iown a 360 and am excited for the dashboard but i see people saying home will suck blah blah blah, well what are the avatarsoffering? I know its not being delayed but who cares! I see people saying home is rippingoff second life, but isn't MS avatars rippingoff Mii's?
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#2 SpruceCaboose
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Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

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#4 CreepyBacon
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If anything it's an answer to Miis, it has nothing to do with Home. The fantastic features that are being brought in (that you conviently chose to ignore in this topic) would be the competition for home, not that they have anything to compete with as Home isn't out, has no release date and has features being removed from it.
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Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

SpruceCaboose

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

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#6 JediRiff
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Yeah, I was LIVID when I first heard about the avatars. I was under the impression it was being forced on us, and immediately started a diatribe calling the Wii everything under the sun for bringing us to this. Then, I found out it was optional, and my blood pressure eased off considerably. :D

I get what M$ is doing with this, and as long as it doesnt affect me, and I am not forced to make one, I have little to argue against it. But yeah, I despise them with every fiber of my being.

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

Metsvideogame

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Youve asked that over 9000 times.

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#8 Sony-tha-champ0
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Whats the prob with Avatars?
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#9 chikenfriedrice
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the new XBL experience has a lot more than those silly avatars...and I agree the avs are not that great
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#10 Metsvideogame
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

carlisledavid79

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Youve asked that over 9000 times.

Well I guess it is out then.

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#12 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

Metsvideogame

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Later. Given the history, probably never at this rate.

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#13 Jamex1987
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The funny thing is Sony announced Home a few years ago and it has yet to arrive. Microsoft announed avatars a few months ago and it will launch next month. Sony announed Killzone 2 back in 2005 and it's still not out yet. During that time Microsoft will launch Gears of War 1 & 2.
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Whats the prob with Avatars?Sony-tha-champ0

Whats the problem with home?

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#15 Animal-Mother
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The funny thing is Sony announced Home a few years ago and it has yet to arrive. Microsoft announed avatars a few months ago and it will launch next month. Sony announed Killzone 2 back in 2005 and it's still not out yet. During that time Microsoft will launch Gears of War 1 & 2. Jamex1987

Who cares i knew about mgs 4- in 2005-6 and look it turnedout to be a stellar game

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[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

Its been delayed a whole heck of a lot. Or did you mean besides the obvious?

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[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

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#18 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?SpruceCaboose

Whats the problem with home?

Its been delayed a whole heck of a lot. Or did you mean besides the obvious?

Besides theobvious!

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#19 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Jamex1987

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

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[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off, is having seemingly from the beta features removed because of copy right and porn, and because its been delayed how many times?

Its an outside application your being asked to use so as to get comprehensive menus and party systems and chat, where as with 360 i can do all that within the interface all ready.

who would wanna start a seperate application to do things?

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#21 Metsvideogame
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Home was one thing that actually had me excited, but once again SONY and their lies have made me mad again.
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#22 Jamex1987
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

I have no idea what a mii is.

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#23 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?WilliamRLBaker

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off, is having seemingly from the beta features removed because of copy right and porn, and because its been delayed how many times?

Its an outside application your being asked to use so as to get comprehensive menus and party systems and chat, where as with 360 i can do all that within the interface all ready.

who would wanna start a seperate application to do things?

it's innovation! Avatar is a Mii ripoff!

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#24 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Jamex1987

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

I have no idea what a mii is.

isn't it the Wii avatar?

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#25 SpruceCaboose
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I have no idea what a mii is.

Jamex1987

Avatars from the Wii.

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#26 Metsvideogame
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

I have no idea what a mii is.

isn't it the Wii avatar?

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

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#27 SpruceCaboose
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it's innovation! Avatar is a Mii ripoff!

Animal-Mother

Home and NXE are neither innovative nor new. They are good ideas from a business POV, but they are not something new. Not even close.

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#28 SpruceCaboose
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SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

Metsvideogame

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

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#29 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

The "avatars" were first announced on the E3 2008, so we have been waiting... 3 months. Home has been years.

Besides, no one is hyping the "avatars" as the next "killer app" (Home is). That's why is irrelevant if the avatars comes later or not.

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#30 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off, is having seemingly from the beta features removed because of copy right and porn, and because its been delayed how many times?

Its an outside application your being asked to use so as to get comprehensive menus and party systems and chat, where as with 360 i can do all that within the interface all ready.

who would wanna start a seperate application to do things?

it's innovation! Avatar is a Mii ripoff!

Maybe its innovation, but you really dont have a leg to stand on until it comes out. The new XBL interface is due next month, so it at least gives us a foundation to work with in this discussion. Home, thus far, is nothing more than a myth perpetrated by the Sony machine that promises much, and rarely seems to deliver.

And while I do hate the avatars, the rest of the new XBL looks very interesting, and I am looking forward to it. Next month.

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#31 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

SpruceCaboose

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Agreed Spruce caboose

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#32 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

SpruceCaboose

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Becuase fanboys say it is.

All games and consoles are failures. Why are we even posting here ??

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#33 hongkingkong
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

SpruceCaboose

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Later. Given the history, probably never at this rate.

Soz. That release date of Never has been pushed back to Q2 of End of Eternity.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

its not rly a ripoff

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#35 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

carlisledavid79

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Becuase fanboys say it is.

All games and consoles are failures. Why are we even posting here ??

I'm posting because my Assembly Language class is utterly boring right now, and I already understand AND, OR, NOT, and XOR checks.

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#36 carlisledavid79
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

SpruceCaboose

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Becuase fanboys say it is.

All games and consoles are failures. Why are we even posting here ??

I'm posting because my Assembly Language class is utterly boring right now, and I already understand AND, OR, NOT, and XOR checks.

10 PRINT "lol"

20 GOTO 10

/end rubbish basic langauge joke.

I could do it in C++ I suppose

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#37 hongkingkong
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[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

SpruceCaboose

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Becuase fanboys say it is.

All games and consoles are failures. Why are we even posting here ??

I'm posting because my Assembly Language class is utterly boring right now, and I already understand AND, OR, NOT, and XOR checks.

I got the feeling my teacher didn't like me after i blurted out "my 'care' gates are closed" (referring to the logic gates in the cpu). I applaud you for you patience in this field .

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?gamer-adam1

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

its not rly a ripoff

how they look exactly alike?

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These Avatar things look lame, I am utterly indifferent to them. The only avatar I need is the laughing face of Kaz Hirai.
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how they look exactly alike?

Animal-Mother

:o ... :? ... :| No they don't. Miis are a rip-off of Rayman anyway, we could go on.......

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10 PRINT "lol"

20 GOTO 10

/end rubbish basic langauge joke.

I could do it in C++ I suppose

carlisledavid79

System.out.println("Java is far superior to C++ and Basic, at least IMO!");

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#42 Metsvideogame
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

SpruceCaboose

Number 1 in the market coming into this gen, number # 3 at the end of this gen. The 360 is going to beat out the PS3 this gen I am now sure of this. Just look at the numbers, and price point will always be better for the 360...

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Number 1 in the market coming into this gen, number # 3 at the end of this gen. The 360 is going to beat out the PS3 this gen I am now sure of this. Just look at the numbers, and price point will always be better for the 360...

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#43 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

how they look exactly alike?

hongkingkong

:o ... :? ... :| No they don't. Miis are a rip-off of Rayman anyway, we could go on.......

since when is rayman customizable?

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#44 SpruceCaboose
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I got the feeling my teacher didn't like me after i blurted out "my 'care' gates are closed" (referring to the logic gates in the cpu). I applaud you for you patience in this field .

hongkingkong

Ok, I laughed in class. Not cool making me look like a jerk....ok it was pretty funny! :D

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#45 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Metsvideogame"]

SOrry the PS3 is a failure.

Metsvideogame

Even if Home never comes out, how is the PS3 a failure?

Number 1 in the market coming into this gen, number # 3 at the end of this gen. The 360 is going to beat out the PS3 this gen I am now sure of this. Just look at the numbers, and price point will always be better for the 360...

That makes it a business disappointment. That matters exactly nothing to me.

I get a great gaming system and movie player that has a ton of great games (as does the 360, which is also a killer system). I don't count that as a failure to gamers.

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#46 hongkingkong
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[QUOTE="hongkingkong"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

how they look exactly alike?

Animal-Mother

:o ... :? ... :| No they don't. Miis are a rip-off of Rayman anyway, we could go on.......

since when is rayman customizable?

Are you a Bill O'Reilly? Are you really THAT one-dimensional? If Miis were Rayman then by golly they would not make sense in wii sports would they? Especially with web 2.0 being all the rage.

Practically everything about anything to do with gaming is copied nowadays. Not just from one thing but many things, infact, with so many influences its almost like origionality because you can't tell where its all coming from.

But Miis are definately the body of Rayman, customization from sims, and in game avatars of so many games its unreal. Plus motion sensing is not origional.

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#47 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off, is having seemingly from the beta features removed because of copy right and porn, and because its been delayed how many times?

Its an outside application your being asked to use so as to get comprehensive menus and party systems and chat, where as with 360 i can do all that within the interface all ready.

who would wanna start a seperate application to do things?

it's innovation! Avatar is a Mii ripoff!

sry no its not innovation microsoft had something exactly like this planned years ago on the original xbox, and Mech assault 2 had avatar character lobbies so isn't this a rip off of that?

Sorry its not innovation its crappy app that your being asked to use instead of actual XMB menus.

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#48 Englandfc1966
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[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

carlisledavid79

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Youve asked that over 9000 times.

Over 9000!

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="hongkingkong"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

how they look exactly alike?

hongkingkong

:o ... :? ... :| No they don't. Miis are a rip-off of Rayman anyway, we could go on.......

since when is rayman customizable?

Are you a Bill O'Reilly? Are you really THAT one-dimensional? If Miis were Rayman then by golly they would not make sense in wii sports would they? Especially with web 2.0 being all the rage.

Practically everything about anything to do with gaming is copied nowadays. Not just from one thing but many things, infact, with so many influences its almost like origionality because you can't tell where its all coming from.

But Miis are definately the body of Rayman, customization from sims, and in game avatars of so many games its unreal. Plus motion sensing is not origional.

when did the first motion sensing comeout, just curious?

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#50 SpruceCaboose
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when did the first motion sensing comeout, just curious?

Animal-Mother

Quite a while ago.