MS Avatar = Fail

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Jamex1987"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?Animal-Mother

Whats the problem with home?

The problem is you have been waiting a few years for it to launch.

yeah and waited for ms to ripoff mii's too

its not rly a ripoff

how they look exactly alike?

what Microsoft did was take a realistic person like from home and gave it a look that anyone will enjoy of all ages now a rip off is taking every single thing about Miis and just saying avators, which it isnt, they are both different. by calling it a ripoff is saying the PS is a ripoff from nintendo,sega, etc, it may look different but it basicly does the same thing. and note, MC isnt a ripoff of doom, i beleive it was taking from what future US amry look.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

when did the first motion sensing comeout, just curious?

SpruceCaboose

Quite a while ago.

what was it?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

when did the first motion sensing comeout, just curious?

Animal-Mother

Quite a while ago.

what was it?

I am not sure what the first one was, but I think MS had a motion sensing controller a long time ago for PC, and I am pretty sure the PSOne had a third party controller that used motion.

I am not sure what the first one was, but I think MS had a motion sensing controller a long time ago for PC, and I am pretty sure the PSOne had a third party controller that used motion.

SpruceCaboose

No motion control was ever done on such a level as Nintendo did it. Yes, it may be a derivative of past technology, but the Wii remote is leaps and bounds beyond what was done previously.

Nothing wrong with MS releasing avatars. But if they try to pretend it's not a answer to mii's, that's laughable. Every system should have their own optional version of avatars/mii's.

Personally, I like the Mii's because they are just simple enough. Too much customization causes them to lose their charm IMO.

how is MS avatar fail? and Home isn't?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

I am not sure what the first one was, but I think MS had a motion sensing controller a long time ago for PC, and I am pretty sure the PSOne had a third party controller that used motion.

flazzle

No motion control was ever done on such a level as Nintendo did it. Yes, it may be a derivative of past technology, but the Wii remote is leaps and bounds beyond what was done previously.

Nothing wrong with MS releasing avatars. But if they try to pretend it's not a answer to mii's, that's laughable. Every system should have their own optional version of avatars/mii's.

Personally, I like the Mii's because they are just simple enough. Too much customization causes them to lose their charm IMO.

Where did I say it was on par with the Wiimote? I was answering a question, not making a comparison.

[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]

10 PRINT "lol"

20 GOTO 10

/end rubbish basic langauge joke.

I could do it in C++ I suppose

SpruceCaboose

System.out.println("Java is far superior to C++ and Basic, at least IMO!");

How?

1. They are more graphically superior then Miis

2. More customization then Miis

3. Like Miis, they will be integrated into 360 games like Uno Rush and Scene It 2

Home just seems like a distraction....something else to do when ur not playing games. I find it hard to see its true purpose.

LOL. I love how in System Wars people say "A ripped off B" Not realizing that B isn't original in the first place.

Avatars have been around since the early days of the internets, when it was still being called "The information superhighway".

Nintendo ripped off Miis from the PC. So what's the problem?

Sony announces plan for Home more then a year ago and yet nothing as of yet. MS announces a re-launch of XBL including Avatars and too many other things to list and it's ready to be implemented when they said it would, fall 2008.

Much like game announcements. Gears 2 & Banjo N&B announced no more then a year ago and both will ship very soon where Cows are still waiting on GT5 & KZ2. :twisted:

Topic should read: Sony Home Fails to deliver - same old story, same old song & dance. :?

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

I am not sure what the first one was, but I think MS had a motion sensing controller a long time ago for PC, and I am pretty sure the PSOne had a third party controller that used motion.

flazzle

No motion control was ever done on such a level as Nintendo did it. Yes, it may be a derivative of past technology, but the Wii remote is leaps and bounds beyond what was done previously.

Nothing wrong with MS releasing avatars. But if they try to pretend it's not a answer to mii's, that's laughable. Every system should have their own optional version of avatars/mii's.

Personally, I like the Mii's because they are just simple enough. Too much customization causes them to lose their charm IMO.

No, you are right. No motion control was ever done on the level that the Wii did it, because the Wii FORCES you to use motion control. Thats its big "plug". Having options is a nice thing, because if I were to play a Wii like I do my 360, I would probably look like Popeye right about now. :)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?WilliamRLBaker

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off

Stopped reading there. Please, don't use arguments from other people without contrasting them or you will feel pretty dumb when you're proven wrong.

If anything, Home is quite the same thing as a Habbo Hotel, with some features more and in 3d.

Second Life? not at all.

[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

I am not sure what the first one was, but I think MS had a motion sensing controller a long time ago for PC, and I am pretty sure the PSOne had a third party controller that used motion.

SpruceCaboose

No motion control was ever done on such a level as Nintendo did it. Yes, it may be a derivative of past technology, but the Wii remote is leaps and bounds beyond what was done previously.

Nothing wrong with MS releasing avatars. But if they try to pretend it's not a answer to mii's, that's laughable. Every system should have their own optional version of avatars/mii's.

Personally, I like the Mii's because they are just simple enough. Too much customization causes them to lose their charm IMO.

Where did I say it was on par with the Wiimote? I was answering a question, not making a comparison.

I was just expanding what you said. Not everything someone posts is a personal attack on what you write.

No, you are right. No motion control was ever done on the level that the Wii did it, because the Wii FORCES you to use motion control. Thats its big "plug". Having options is a nice thing, because if I were to play a Wii like I do my 360, I would probably look like Popeye right about now. :)

JediRiff

Yes. And PC's FORCES you to use a mouse, and consoles FORCE you to use a joystick. All consoles FORCE you to use something. And some Wii games allow you to use standard/classic controllers or simply turn the wii remote sideways with no motion at all. It's not as extreme as you state it to be.

And I have playing the Wii consistantly since launch and no Popeye arms here (though to have room for anchor tattoos would have been cool)

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Sony-tha-champ0"]Whats the prob with Avatars?blitzcloud

Whats the problem with home?

that its a 2nd life rip off

Stopped reading there. Please, don't use arguments from other people without contrasting them or you will feel pretty dumb when you're proven wrong.

If anything, Home is quite the same thing as a Habbo Hotel, with some features more and in 3d.

Second Life? not at all.

Actually I hate to disagree with you but you didn't stop reading there because of that you stopped reading there because the comprehension on your side wasn't set high enough, and you had no argument againest any thing else i said.so ill spell it out for you.

Home is a 2nd life clone with gameplay options thrown in, Oh and just to let you know 2nd life is a habbo hotel clone...so whos wrong?
P.S: its not someone elses argument, I've been saying home was a 2nd life clone since they announced it.

When did MS ever compare the avatar update to home? Never.....the fanboys made the comparison not MS...Blame them..

I will play around with the ideas...but Home just seems like a waste of time...I would rather play a game then walk around and see ad's everywhere..

When did MS ever compare the avatar update to home? Never.....the fanboys made the comparison not MS...Blame them..

I will play around with the ideas...but Home just seems like a waste of time...I would rather play a game then walk around and see ad's everywhere..

masiisam

i never said that they compared them

the interface is simple and doesn't have a useless virtual reality world. this is a case where simplicity wins. not particularly interested but its a nice addition for casualsmephisto_11

useless why is it useless?

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]the interface is simple and doesn't have a useless virtual reality world. this is a case where simplicity wins. not particularly interested but its a nice addition for casualsAnimal-Mother

useless why is it useless?

because its a long cut to doiing something simple (forming parties)

also i dont see any use in freeroaming a virtual reality world. there's a line of nerdishness i wont cross

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

When did MS ever compare the avatar update to home? Never.....the fanboys made the comparison not MS...Blame them..

I will play around with the ideas...but Home just seems like a waste of time...I would rather play a game then walk around and see ad's everywhere..

Animal-Mother

i never said that they compared them

:| Where did I say you did?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]the interface is simple and doesn't have a useless virtual reality world. this is a case where simplicity wins. not particularly interested but its a nice addition for casualsmephisto_11

useless why is it useless?

because its a long cut to doiing something simple (forming parties)

also i dont see any use in freeroaming a virtual reality world. there's a line of nerdishness i wont cross

and you havnt crossed the line by postingon a game website board, i'm a nerd i admit it

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

When did MS ever compare the avatar update to home? Never.....the fanboys made the comparison not MS...Blame them..

I will play around with the ideas...but Home just seems like a waste of time...I would rather play a game then walk around and see ad's everywhere..

masiisam

i never said that they compared them

:| Where did I say you did?

i never said that you did

Yeah, I was LIVID when I first heard about the avatars. I was under the impression it was being forced on us, and immediately started a diatribe calling the Wii everything under the sun for bringing us to this. Then, I found out it was optional, and my blood pressure eased off considerably. :D

I get what M$ is doing with this, and as long as it doesnt affect me, and I am not forced to make one, I have little to argue against it. But yeah, I despise them with every fiber of my being.

JediRiff

Now you KNOW that you will make one when the update launches. YOU KNOW IT!

But anyway, MS said the avatars are rated "G" as of launch, but they will get to aa "M" rating in the near future ;)

And the avatar's animations are pixar quality

Couldn't Sony and MS let Rare and SCE London respectively work on REAL games instead :(angelkimne

Umm... Its called business. And this NXB will sell consoles. It will even steal potential Wii cutomers if MS advertising right, which you know they will

[QUOTE="Metsvideogame"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

Home and Avatars are both similar in that they are A) Optional and B) Interesting to some.

I am sure that those who hate the idea of them will likely be the most into the services when they are out.

carlisledavid79

Spruce when is Home coming out officially?

Youve asked that over 9000 times.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Couldn't Sony and MS let Rare and SCE London respectively work on REAL games instead :(krp008

Umm... Its called business. And this NXB will sell consoles. It will even steal potential Wii cutomers if MS advertising right, which you know they will

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]the interface is simple and doesn't have a useless virtual reality world. this is a case where simplicity wins. not particularly interested but its a nice addition for casualsAnimal-Mother

useless why is it useless?

because its a long cut to doiing something simple (forming parties)

also i dont see any use in freeroaming a virtual reality world. there's a line of nerdishness i wont cross

and you havnt crossed the line by postingon a game website board, i'm a nerd i admit it

yeah im a nerd but there's something about setting up virtual reality furniture, dressing yourself up and meeting virtual reality friends that strikes me as a little bit too weird.

[QUOTE="krp008"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]Couldn't Sony and MS let Rare and SCE London respectively work on REAL games instead :(angelkimne

Umm... Its called business. And this NXB will sell consoles. It will even steal potential Wii cutomers if MS advertising right, which you know they will

For parents that buy their 5 year old a console....

Once kids start catching on that the Wii isnt getting ANY good games, they will move on... Beg their parents or something

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]the interface is simple and doesn't have a useless virtual reality world. this is a case where simplicity wins. not particularly interested but its a nice addition for casualsmephisto_11

useless why is it useless?

because its a long cut to doiing something simple (forming parties)

also i dont see any use in freeroaming a virtual reality world. there's a line of nerdishness i wont cross

and you havnt crossed the line by postingon a game website board, i'm a nerd i admit it

so sqaut!

yeah im a nerd but there's something about setting up virtual reality furniture, dressing yourself up and meeting virtual reality friends that strikes me as a little bit too weird.

Yeah, I was LIVID when I first heard about the avatars. I was under the impression it was being forced on us, and immediately started a diatribe calling the Wii everything under the sun for bringing us to this. Then, I found out it was optional, and my blood pressure eased off considerably. :D

I get what M$ is doing with this, and as long as it doesnt affect me, and I am not forced to make one, I have little to argue against it. But yeah, I despise them with every fiber of my being.

JediRiff

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

No, you are right. No motion control was ever done on the level that the Wii did it, because the Wii FORCES you to use motion control. Thats its big "plug". Having options is a nice thing, because if I were to play a Wii like I do my 360, I would probably look like Popeye right about now. :)

flazzle

Yes. And PC's FORCES you to use a mouse, and consoles FORCE you to use a joystick. All consoles FORCE you to use something. And some Wii games allow you to use standard/classic controllers or simply turn the wii remote sideways with no motion at all. It's not as extreme as you state it to be.

And I have playing the Wii consistantly since launch and no Popeye arms here (though to have room for anchor tattoos would have been cool)

Let me know how the anchor tats go for you! :D

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

Yeah, I was LIVID when I first heard about the avatars. I was under the impression it was being forced on us, and immediately started a diatribe calling the Wii everything under the sun for bringing us to this. Then, I found out it was optional, and my blood pressure eased off considerably. :D

I get what M$ is doing with this, and as long as it doesnt affect me, and I am not forced to make one, I have little to argue against it. But yeah, I despise them with every fiber of my being.

krp008

Now you KNOW that you will make one when the update launches. YOU KNOW IT!

But anyway, MS said the avatars are rated "G" as of launch, but they will get to aa "M" rating in the near future ;)

And the avatar's animations are pixar quality

Yeah, but its just not my thing. My kids will get a kick out of it, and sure I will look at them. Thats an easier pill to swallow, so long as I have a choice. :)

Now whats this about "M" rating avatars???? Where did you see that? THAT could be interesting.... (I'm imagining a bloody locust, or a zombie.... that would be cool. IF they looked eerie or creepy, and not cute)

[QUOTE="JediRiff"]

Yeah, I was LIVID when I first heard about the avatars. I was under the impression it was being forced on us, and immediately started a diatribe calling the Wii everything under the sun for bringing us to this. Then, I found out it was optional, and my blood pressure eased off considerably. :D

I get what M$ is doing with this, and as long as it doesnt affect me, and I am not forced to make one, I have little to argue against it. But yeah, I despise them with every fiber of my being.

diped

The pictures I saw of them had that cutesy feel to them. Its not what I like, at all. At first, I thought it was going to be a forced issue, and I had a massive problem with that... but we know thats not the case anymore.

Not to mention, the fact that I have gamerpics (some I have paid for) and I prefer those... especially the one I have been using for quite some time now. (The Joker with the card covering half his face)

Anyway, those issues are a moot point now. But, no, I still do not like them, or rather, their look.

In response to sony home= Fail thread, How are the ms avatars any better? Iown a 360 and am excited for the dashboard but i see people saying home will suck blah blah blah, well what are the avatarsoffering? I know its not being delayed but who cares! I see people saying home is rippingoff second life, but isn't MS avatars rippingoff Mii's?Animal-Mother

And Sony ripped off MS' achievements. It's the circle of life.

how is MS avatar fail? and Home isn't?

killerfist

it's simple...MS avatar fails at delaying....Home suceed many times over in delays after delays after delays

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]In response to sony home= Fail thread, How are the ms avatars any better? Iown a 360 and am excited for the dashboard but i see people saying home will suck blah blah blah, well what are the avatarsoffering? I know its not being delayed but who cares! I see people saying home is rippingoff second life, but isn't MS avatars rippingoff Mii's?xsubtownerx

And Sony ripped off MS' achievements. It's the circle of life.

ahh touche, you always tend tohave me at that.