M$'s bread & butter is in serious trouble!!

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]I have Vista on the new PC I built and it is much better then XP. I had so many problems with XP. I would play music, and my whole system would crash to a blue screen of death. This made me lose everything I had saved, and I had to do a system recovery.thirstychainsaw

Really? My XP runs fine, no problems, ever.

Maybe you were, you know, watching too much...:? 

XP and Vista are the  great OS, i havent run into a single problem with either, and all my friends and their parents (big tech freaks and their parents including mine run business programs and design software) dont have a problem with any of them. Vista though has bugged out on a few of the old programs people use for business but thats expected of a BRAND NEW OS

The death of a monopoly.

"Dell announced that it would be offering Windows XP again for Home PC's. The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than Me II. It can't do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep **** well, you take what you are shovelled."

"This is ****c abusive monopoly behavior, Microsoft wrote the modern book on it. It pulled all the major OEMs in by twisting their arms with the usual methods, and they again all fell into line. Never before has anyone backpedalled on this, to do so would earn you the wrath of Microsoft."

"The other equally monumental Me II failure? Gates in China launching a $3version of bundled ME II. Why is this not altruism? Well, it goes back to piracy and how it helped enforce the MS monopoly. If you can easily pirate Windows, Linux has no price advantage, they both cost zero." link http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39087


I didn't see this coming.........as I use my Windows XP.;)

ragrdoll21

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"]The death of a monopoly.

"Dell announced that it would be offering Windows XP again for Home PC's. The second that Vista came out, Microsoft makes it very hard for you to sell anything other than Me II. It can't do this on the business side because it would be laughed out the door, but for the walking sheep **** well, you take what you are shovelled."

"This is ****c abusive monopoly behavior, Microsoft wrote the modern book on it. It pulled all the major OEMs in by twisting their arms with the usual methods, and they again all fell into line. Never before has anyone backpedalled on this, to do so would earn you the wrath of Microsoft."

"The other equally monumental Me II failure? Gates in China launching a $3version of bundled ME II. Why is this not altruism? Well, it goes back to piracy and how it helped enforce the MS monopoly. If you can easily pirate Windows, Linux has no price advantage, they both cost zero." link http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39087


I didn't see this coming.........as I use my Windows XP.;)

Dualshockin

I get it now, You aren't a PS3 fanboy, you just hate MS. Figures.... 

Both Linux distros (backed in good part by increasing downloads of Ubuntu) and Mac OSX (driven by the brilliant advertising and iPods) are increasing marketshare.

They may not seem to have much share now but if Window's competition continues to act so brilliantly and MS continues to **** up then it may become far more of a competitive market than people currently imagine. Theres indications of this everywhere.

Microsoft no longer can use several of the old methods (threatening to revoke the right to sell Windows if they carry other OSes, offering predatory incentives, bundling other proprietary software to monopolize those sectors) and their marketshare is beginning to sag because of it.

Firefox was much the same back when it first launched, it didn't have much marketshare..but two years later it has achieved nearly a quarter of all usage in Europe and around 12-18 percent usage worldwide (depending on who tallies it). Downloads are around 500K per day too, what Microsoft once dismissed they are now openly acknowledging and actively working to thwart as quickly as possible, but its become futile.

Two years back they admitted to targeting WINE, thats the actions of an entity that fears what something can become. Recently Ubuntu downloads have been stressing the Distro's servers and they are having to upgrade them. Microsoft is getting slapped with fines left and right, they are failing to meet their sales expectations.

These kinds of things have parallels in Firefox and just as with Firefox all boats will rise while Microsoft will ever so slowly sink.

Nah, I would start up a song in media player, and the PC would completely lock up, and 10 seconds later I would get the blue screen of death.

BioShockOwnz

Sounds like a problem with Media Player rather than XP, I'll admitt XP is the best thing Microsoft ever did and actually a pretty good OS, Vista has so royally ****ed up though I'm switching to Ubuntu.

Apple is coming out on top in the OS war... ;)

You know it.musicalmac

Apple can't win on the "cool" factor alone, they need to offer features for power users and both Windows and Linux have more of them at this point. The browser wars early on was driven by power users and the technical minded, it is similar here although Apple has done a great job of making Mac OSX a cultural icon it can't hold them through in the longterm.

When did the inquirer become a reliable tech newspaper or magazine? The inquirer i do believe is the uk equivilant of weekly world news and other grocery store checkout lane mags and papers...you know the ones with celeberty pics and stories like celeberty anarexia...or bat boy found in cave...WilliamRLBaker

Personally, I agree...typically thats the case with the Inquirer, but there are signs everywhere to support exactly what they are saying. On a completely level playing field Microsoft can't dominate the OS market, just like on a completely level playing field Apple wouldn't be able to dominate the MP3 Player market.

Firefox -> Weaker, less secure opponent with little to no customization. Linux/Mac OS X -> High-specced, high-priced competitor, entirely different interface and at least for awhile poorly supported.

If anything the opening for other OSes to take a serious slice of marketshare is greater than the opening for Firefox and Konquer derivatives (such as Safari) had. When something fails to meet the needs of the user or is a rough transition and there are viable competitors you can take a extremely marginal alternative and make it into a serious competitor.

No. It's not.

Dreams-Visions

Unless you are talking about for PC games (and read recent news regarding the Open Software Alliance for promising info on that) it certainly is. Certain distributions of Linux eclipse Windows in quite a few ways.

If you think MS only makes money on home OS's, your crazy.MrGrimFandango

If you think that isn't their main revenue earner by a large margin you are crazy. IIS won't make them enough to be anything other than a marginalized company if Windows somehow fails them.

Linux will not make a major dent in windows unless they make it more user friendly, stuff like compiling programs to install, and missing dependencies might be no problem for me but the average joe who doesn't know much about computers is going to have a hard time.albi321

Which are exactly the things Ubuntu look towards, it is almost as easy to use as Windows at this point in time and more capable from the standpoint of things that can be made to run on it. 

Linux will not make a major dent in windows unless they make it more user friendly, stuff like compiling programs to install, and missing dependencies might be no problem for me but the average joe who doesn't know much about computers is going to have a hard time.albi321

I agree I doubt the average user would want to spend hours in the man pages just to figure out how to perform a task or go from forum to forum trying to find out why something doesn't work. Even I have trouble with Linux sometimes, for instance I recently had to spend hours trying to figure out why I can't mount an NTFS external hard drive under Fedora Core 6 until I realized the problem was with ntfs-3g on Fedora's repository.