MS could go ahead and claim victory over Sony.

Not just yet it hasn't. Give the PS3 another 5 - 6 months and then we'll see if it has truly "failed" or not.fcjklosn

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

Sony announced they've "won the console wars" with the ps2 only 5 months after the original xbox launched...

if it's good enough for sony to announce it, it's certainly good enough for MS to announce it.

with a "100 million loyal ps2 users" the cows like to brag about, 127k is truly, truly pathetic on an epic scale...:(

I think that what Microsoft can claim is the fact that they have probably outspent Sony 5 to 1 to get to where they are.Subcritical

Not just yet it hasn't. Give the PS3 another 5 - 6 months and then we'll see if it has truly "failed" or not.fcjklosn

Hell no. Give it even more time than that. The PS2 didn't even fully take off until Christmas 2001 - over a year after its initial Japanese debut. This is because we had to wait for the heavy hitters to arrive like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy. You know, the franchises exclusive to PS3 which are truly worth the $500-600 asking price?

[QUOTE="fcjklosn"]Not just yet it hasn't. Give the PS3 another 5 - 6 months and then we'll see if it has truly "failed" or not.-Spock-

Hell no. Give it even more time than that. The PS2 didn't even fully take off until Christmas 2001 - over a year after its initial Japanese debut. This is because we had to wait for the heavy hitters to arrive like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy. You know, the franchises exclusive to PS3 which are truly worth the $500-600 asking price?

I think that what Microsoft can claim is the fact that they have probably outspent Sony 5 to 1 to get to where they are.Subcritical

actually sony has already stated they've spent billions getting ready for the ps3...

both are investments.

having the #1 selling console in under 5 years says MS' investment paid off...

sony's...?  not judging from the poor ps3 sales..;)

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="fcjklosn"]Not just yet it hasn't. Give the PS3 another 5 - 6 months and then we'll see if it has truly "failed" or not.bluebrad1974

Hell no. Give it even more time than that. The PS2 didn't even fully take off until Christmas 2001 - over a year after its initial Japanese debut. This is because we had to wait for the heavy hitters to arrive like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy. You know, the franchises exclusive to PS3 which are truly worth the $500-600 asking price?

Indeed, but we're not talking about now. We are talking about the future of both products.

[QUOTE="Subcritical"]I think that what Microsoft can claim is the fact that they have probably outspent Sony 5 to 1 to get to where they are.tango90101

actually sony has already stated they've spent billions getting ready for the ps3...

both are investments.

having the #1 selling console in under 5 years says MS' investment paid off...

sony's...?  not judging from the poor ps3 sales..;)

I don't believe they have "paid off" yet.  They are still losing money.  But who do you think is going to pay for Microsofts investment?  It certainly isn't going to be MS or shareholders.  Where is all of that money going to come from?

.....must be from the pockets of video gamers a few years down the road when MS controls video gaming.....

That is there strategy, and it is bad for all gamers.

I rue the day......

[QUOTE="tango90101"]

[QUOTE="Subcritical"]I think that what Microsoft can claim is the fact that they have probably outspent Sony 5 to 1 to get to where they are.Subcritical

actually sony has already stated they've spent billions getting ready for the ps3...

both are investments.

having the #1 selling console in under 5 years says MS' investment paid off...

sony's...?  not judging from the poor ps3 sales..;)

I don't believe they have "paid off" yet.  They are still losing money.  But who do you think is going to pay for Microsofts investment?  It certainly isn't going to be MS or shareholders.  Where is all of that money going to come from?

.....must be from the pockets of video gamers a few years down the road when MS controls video gaming.....

That is there strategy, and it is bad for all gamers.

I rue the day......

it's been speculated by industry analysts the 360 is already making MS money...  not to mention the xtremely high attach ratio of games to consoles, meaning more money.  

i don't know what you think MS can do the industry's business model that would dictate such a paranoid belief...

it's funny that when sony had a stranglehold on the gaming industry noone seemed to mind as they milked us for b.s addons that shouldn't be there, ie; memory cards, network adapters, multitaps, etc, etc.......  

if you truly think sony's plan of ecommerce and advertising to create money from the online endeavours won't be on the backs of its gamers, you simply don't know this biz very well...;)

rue away....:lol:

.....must be from the pockets of video gamers a few years down the road when MS controls video gaming.....

That is there strategy, and it is bad for all gamers.

I rue the day......

Subcritical

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.gsx1100

[QUOTE="Subcritical"]

.....must be from the pockets of video gamers a few years down the road when MS controls video gaming.....

That is there strategy, and it is bad for all gamers.

I rue the day......

crazyjames1080

[QUOTE="fcjklosn"]Not just yet it hasn't. Give the PS3 another 5 - 6 months and then we'll see if it has truly "failed" or not.-Spock-

Hell no. Give it even more time than that. The PS2 didn't even fully take off until Christmas 2001 - over a year after its initial Japanese debut. This is because we had to wait for the heavy hitters to arrive like Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy. You know, the franchises exclusive to PS3 which are truly worth the $500-600 asking price?

I thought Resistance: Floppage of Man was the PS3's heavy hitter? At least that what cows hyped it up to be. The Geow killer.  :shock:

[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"][QUOTE="Subcritical"]

.....must be from the pockets of video gamers a few years down the road when MS controls video gaming.....

That is there strategy, and it is bad for all gamers.

I rue the day......

bluebrad1974

i agree.

i'm still not convinced sony would even be online with their console if not for MS.  MS gave the industry the boost it needed to move forward.    

meanwhile, sony is trying to sneek their movie players into living rooms and hope noone notices at $600 a pop...:roll:

MS is doing more in taking gaming forward than Sony. You Sony fanboys need to accept the fact that Sony's goal with the PS3 is to sell blu-ray players, not videogames. Honestly, how can Sony fanboys be so delusional that they actually think Sony needs to be the market leader.bluebrad1974

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"] MS is doing more in taking gaming forward than Sony. You Sony fanboys need to accept the fact that Sony's goal with the PS3 is to sell blu-ray players, not videogames. Honestly, how can Sony fanboys be so delusional that they actually think Sony needs to be the market leader.crazyjames1080

[QUOTE="Subcritical"]I think that what Microsoft can claim is the fact that they have probably outspent Sony 5 to 1 to get to where they are.PaintballinDude

MS cna claim whatever thye want, that won't make it true. I don't think there should be any declorations till after one solid year of competition. Come November 17, 2007 all will be judged.

[QUOTE="crazyjames1080"][QUOTE="Tokaithegreat"] You're pretty ignorant of history if you didn't know that sony did the same thing. Sony bought a whole bunch of game developers during the time of the first playstation and beyond. They have acquired 989, naughty dog, ,Zipper interactive, Guerrilla games, Incognito and many more. You are a sad BLIND fanboy..Dreams-Visions

I can make it out.... but it's not a fun thing for me.

im gonna be laughing at you kids when ps3 ends up the #1 console. you talk 5 months since its been released. in another 5 months everything will be different. your white console will be trash

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

with a "100 million loyal ps2 users" the cows like to brag about, 127k is truly, truly pathetic on an epic scale...:(tango90101

do super-sized letters bunch together for anyone else? like, I can't read the large sized text at all.Dreams-Visions

And without Japan MS will never be able to claim victory over anything.gsx1100

By the end of the year:

Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Virtua Fighter 5, Elder Scrolls IV, Lair, Devil May Cry 3, Ratchet and Clank, Grand Theft Auto IV, Assassin's Creed, and Singstar will have been released.

rumble will be back in the controllers.

Blu-Ray will more than likely be the only HD format on shelves.

Home will have been released.

the console will have launched in Europe, Middle East, and Australasia.
Skippyj9

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974

Hmmmm I count 4 "months". Come April 17 it will have been 5 months.

Nov 17- Dec 17= 1

Dec-17- Jan 17= 2

Jan 17- Feb 17= 3

Feb 17- Mar 17=4

[QUOTE="gsx1100"][QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]It's been 5 monthes, the 360 is continually spanking the PS3. It's not going to change either. The PS3 will always be a more expensive console with less games. 127k in the U.S. for Febuary is pathetic. MS should go ahead and announce victory over Sony.bluebrad1974