MS expect to sell "Tens of Millions" X1s in its first year.

[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

With a release in only 13 countries, it seems they cant even produce 1 million units in 2 months...

So unless they get more factories and better yields, i don't see that happening.

ManatuBeard

No link, im not basing this estimate in any MS link, but on what is happening with the competition.

We've seen the leaks of PS4 being manufactured and that a single factory expects to produce 1 million till launch, having at least another more factory producing them to release in 33 countries and more units per country than X1 (based on units available for pre-orders).

Since the X1 is only launching in 13 countries and less units per country than the PS4, its easy to assume that they are not able to produce 1 million units for the launch.

Its a point of view based on leaks/rumors, not a statement.

So basically talking out of your arse.  Thats what fanboys do I guess

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

heretrix

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

[QUOTE="BigBoss255"]

"Certainly in the beginning, its primarily a gaming console. Thats going to be the primary buyer. In all the research weve seen, therell be tens of millions of buyers in the first year and in the research we do, over 90% of them own an existing console".

Stated by Yusuf Mehdi that gimp from the reveal. What a deluded man. You're not going to sell 10s of millions of a console priced at $500 when there's a cheaper and better option available. 6-8 million seems more realistic.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/08/microsofts-yusuf-mehdi-explains-the-whole-xbox-one-strategy-expects-to-sell-tens-of-millions-in-first-year/

What delusion. Guys like this need to be fired and replaced with real gamers who actually understand the market.

 

Soul4Survivor

It took the 360 3 years ot reach 10 million. I think the X1 will do better, but not tens of millions in one year.  That's just stupidly delusional.

Kinthalis

That can't be true

Between 2005-2008 10 million Xbox 360s were sold then between 2009-2013 68 million Xbox 360s were sold?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

Zaibach

early adopters who buy these en masse are tech zombies and core gamers not dude bros who are like seriously into their fantasy hand-egg.

why do you think they are scrambling over themselves to push the gaming angle. 

he who wins the playground in territories like the UK and US takes the pot, and those who envangelize via facebook and twitter will be the first to get their hands on these new consoles.

Spoken like a true observer, its funny how i was at GAME the other day, most people who came there wanted the next Xbox, same with my colleagues at work, they want the next Xbox. Dudebros only want Xbox and are oblivious to news happening in the gaming industry, it is the hardcore like us who check up news everyday that would buy these consoles day one, most dude bros would want these as Christmas gifts or wait for a more reasonable price drop

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

seanmcloughlin

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

Ah well, we'll see soon enough. Personally I want a PS4 more than an X1 at this point, but I gotta shake my head at all of the stupidity surrounding these consoles. They are both going to sell. The PS4 may sell faster, but all it's gonna take at this point is a price drop to turn things around. That really isn't that much of a difference between systems especially if the games at launch aren't compelling enough. The X1's media features can certainly give it a push. 

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

seanmcloughlin

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I don't understand this. Are these guys so incredibly stupid that they don't realize that Microsoft was in an even worse position in 2005 when the 360 came out than they are in now?

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

jsmoke03

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

Because it's all abot having it in one box with one control set to use. 

Never understimate people's laziness

Ah well, we'll see soon enough. Personally I want a PS4 more than an X1 at this point, but I gotta shake my head at all of the stupidity surrounding these consoles. They are both going to sell. The PS4 may sell faster, but all it's gonna take at this point is a price drop to turn things around. That really isn't that much of a difference between systems especially if the games at launch aren't compelling enough. The X1's media features can certainly give it a push. 

heretrix

Same, I'd still prefer a PS4 over an X1 but people are seriously understimating the system. For good or bad the X1 has been in mainstream media more than the PS4 and any publicity is good publicity, especially if the thing that was so bad and talked about before ends up being changed for the positive

Again we'll wait and see, like you said I expect the PS4 to sell more right out of the gate but I don't think it's gonna be the landlside most say around here

lol M$ thinks they Sony PS4.

KillzoneSnake

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I don't understand this. Are these guys so incredibly stupid that they don't realize that Microsoft was in an even worse position in 2005 when the 360 came out than they are in now?

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

jsmoke03

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="wiiutroll"]link?

XBOunity

No link, im not basing this estimate in any MS link, but on what is happening with the competition.

We've seen the leaks of PS4 being manufactured and that a single factory expects to produce 1 million till launch, having at least another more factory producing them to release in 33 countries and more units per country than X1 (based on units available for pre-orders).

Since the X1 is only launching in 13 countries and less units per country than the PS4, its easy to assume that they are not able to produce 1 million units for the launch.

Its a point of view based on leaks/rumors, not a statement.

So basically talking out of your arse.  Thats what fanboys do I guess

Im making a deduction based on the available information, its not my fault that information cannot be verified. And, as i said, its not a statement, its how i view this information.

I've seen worse shit being typed by you.

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

heretrix

It combines all the entertainment needs into one device (XBone) rather than 4 or 5 devices, its all done with no remotes, the sports features are enough to sell me, plus my Time Warner Cable on my XBone, and it plays GREAT games, netflixs, and many other apps. I for one wont limit myself to the XBone only as the PS4 will have GREAT games as well, the Wii u though I will never own, not my thing.tsgamer82

This guy gets it

Are cable tv watchers and sports fans REALLY that excited to spend $500 so that can wave and talk to their television set?

I love that they're trying to change the hype for the machine by hyping it themself.  Expected, but I haven't seen this much from a company before release.

I don't know man, I think it's possible. Xbox One is made for more than just gaming, and with Pachter's latest "PS4 will outsell Xbox One" prediction, we can safely assume that the universe is pointing towards Xbox One $10 million first year sales.

That's some heavy nationalism. Plus it's much too late of a start to do fantasy football.

I'll believe it when I see it.

If they really believe that they'll sell tens of millions of the $500 Xbox One w/ Kinect SKU over one year then I think they're going to have a rough awakening. I honestly see them selling no more than 10 million units the first year; I'd even have a hard time seeing the PS4 hit 20 million units over the course of a year.

Poor MS

This reminds me of a local coop game where one guy forgets which half of the screen is his, so he's running into a wall and he thinks he's winning.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

seanmcloughlin

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

So personally I see no reason to get the x1 for anything but games and the ps4 has that for less money and better hardware. Also if MS thinks that the x1 is going to do numbers in the tens of millions then what will the ps4 do :D

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I don't understand this. Are these guys so incredibly stupid that they don't realize that Microsoft was in an even worse position in 2005 when the 360 came out than they are in now?

Underestimate Microsoft at your peril.  (Not you Sean)

no-scope-AK47

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

So personally I see no reason to get the x1 for anything but games and the ps4 has that for less money and better hardware. Also if MS thinks that the x1 is going to do numbers in the tens of millions then what will the ps4 do :D

Arn't they contradiicting theirselves?

Didnt they say they could only produce 6 million Xbox Ones in their first year... let alone sell them. Or has the production increased double overnight?

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

heretrix

So personally I see no reason to get the x1 for anything but games and the ps4 has that for less money and better hardware. Also if MS thinks that the x1 is going to do numbers in the tens of millions then what will the ps4 do :D

I work in retail and I see and encounter hundred of idiots every day who bumrush the apple display to buy overpriced ipads/iphones/ipods and overpriced accessories/macs.

Now because I see so many morons put down 600+ dollars on ipads and accessories, I have no doubt in my mind many people will buy the Xbone and PS4.. simply because it is the newest "hottest" tech.

For that reason alone, i can see the PS4/XB1 selling 10s of millions.

Yeah, they're probably going to end up buying their own console en masse just to hit such a milestone in that amount of time.

Once Microsoft starts the subscriptions and deals with companies like Direct TV, Infinity, or whatever they might just do it. I would not get to cocky just yet.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] They have a box that cost less and does that it is called the cable box under your hdtv. You also have the roku 3/apple tv for example that give you tons of content. I don't see the x1 as that big of deal on the tv side unless they have a lower price for the content and that would just piss off the cable companies. You also have at least in NYC a shit ton of over the air hdtv channels. You also have many sites that restream shows and don't forget about torrents and IRC.

So personally I see no reason to get the x1 for anything but games and the ps4 has that for less money and better hardware. Also if MS thinks that the x1 is going to do numbers in the tens of millions then what will the ps4 do :D

no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

No link, im not basing this estimate in any MS link, but on what is happening with the competition.

We've seen the leaks of PS4 being manufactured and that a single factory expects to produce 1 million till launch, having at least another more factory producing them to release in 33 countries and more units per country than X1 (based on units available for pre-orders).

Since the X1 is only launching in 13 countries and less units per country than the PS4, its easy to assume that they are not able to produce 1 million units for the launch.

Its a point of view based on leaks/rumors, not a statement.

ManatuBeard

So basically talking out of your arse.  Thats what fanboys do I guess

Im making a deduction based on the available information, its not my fault that information cannot be verified. And, as i said, its not a statement, its how i view this information.

I've seen worse shit being typed by you.

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

seanmcloughlin

How many people are going to spend 500 bucks on something like this that dont play games? Then pay another 60 bucks for XBLG just so they can say "Xbox one turn on netflix" instead of picking up the remote they already have?

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

Gargus

How many people are going to spend 500 bucks on something like this that dont play games? Then pay another 60 bucks for XBLG just so they can say "Xbox one turn on netflix" instead of picking up the remote they already have?

who else but microsoft

Krelian-co

Maybe at $300 they could but like hell if they think most people will shell out $500+ for a new console to watch TV and play video games for the family.

Nintendo Wii sold well because it was cheap and family-friendly. $250? At that price (compared to its competition $400 & $600) people were buying Wiis to prop up their doors. Double the price though and I don't think you'll sell too many (not in this economy).

It's funny how many companies keep making this mistake. Sure, your device may have the greatest innovation in the world. But if it's too expensive, people won't bite.

Guys like this need to be fired and replaced with real gamers BigBoss255

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Exactly. The TV deals might sell a lot of people on it, people who want an all in one home TV box that can play games,netflix and watch sports etc. all from the one device without even needing to leave our couch too

heretrix

"Certainly in the beginning, its primarily a gaming console. Thats going to be the primary buyer. In all the research weve seen, therell be tens of millions of buyers in the first year and in the research we do, over 90% of them own an existing console".

Stated by Yusuf Mehdi that gimp from the reveal. What a deluded man. You're not going to sell 10s of millions of a console priced at $500 when there's a cheaper and better option available. 6-8 million seems more realistic.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09/08/microsofts-yusuf-mehdi-explains-the-whole-xbox-one-strategy-expects-to-sell-tens-of-millions-in-first-year/

What delusion. Guys like this need to be fired and replaced with real gamers who actually understand the market.

 

BigBoss255

MS has better advertising. Also appeals more to NFL fans, wich i would presume is, most of America, and since America is probably the top priority for Microsoft, i highly doubt it won't sell tens of millions.

MS has better advertising. Also appeals more to NFL fans, wich i would presume is, most of America, and since America is probably the top priority for Microsoft, i highly doubt it won't sell tens of millions.

Lumpy311

I wouldn't laugh at them just yet because they could do it and make everyone look stupid. 

Also it's more than just gamers who will buy these systems

seanmcloughlin

:lol: they sound like SW kids

Once Microsoft starts the subscriptions and deals with companies like Direct TV, Infinity, or whatever they might just do it. I would not get to cocky just yet.

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