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#1 RM84x
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Anyone see the EA Fight Night Round 4 ads yet? I saw it at gametrailers and IGN... and it only shows the 360 case and 360 logo.

Now the game is also coming out for Ps3 and is being released on the same day. Regularly ads would show both logos and cases. So MS has obviously paid off EA to only show their case and logo..... TRYING TO GIVE THE ILLUSION and TRICK customers into thinking of FNR4 being a 360 exclusive, when in reality it is NOT.

This is a real insult to consumers intelligence. Nintendo, Sony, and even Sega (back in the day) have never stooped this low. Trying to trick ppl into thinking a game is exclusive when it really is not.

All it shows me is how DESPERATE MS is for an exclusive.

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*insert facepalm picture here*
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...I...

I really don't know how to properly respond to this.

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#4 Odrec
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Anyone see the EA Fight Night Round 4 ads yet? I saw it at gametrailers and IGN... and it only shows the 360 case and 360 logo.

Now the game is also coming out for Ps3 and is being released on the same day. Regularly ads would show both logos and cases. So MS has obviously paid off EA to only show their case and logo..... TRYING TO GIVE THE ILLUSION and TRICK customers into thinking of FNR4 being a 360 exclusive, when in reality it is NOT.

This is a real insult to consumers intelligence. Nintendo, Sony, and even Sega (back in the day) have never stooped this low. Trying to trick ppl into thinking a game is exclusive when it really is not.

All it shows me is how DESPERATE MS is for an exclusive.

RM84x
Not really surprising, given the company's history of playing dirty to win. How do you think Bill Gates became the richest man in the world? Yes people, in real life, bad guys usually win.
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#5 Alpha-Male22
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I dont know whether to take you seriously or not anymore. One half of me is looking at your argument and screaming: "Juvenile Fanboy with horrible reasoning skills" While the other half is screaming "Joke thread"

Even if it is true, you show your ignorance of the business industry-- people play hardball, if Sony is going to take it, then they are going to take it. If they don't like it, then it's up to them to take action. You dont get anywhere twiddling your thumbs and being a nice guy.


Since you provide no proof for MS paying EA, your assumption goes right out the window rendering your rant completely useless.


I didn't want to explain all that, because like I said, I can't tell if this is a joke, but there it is.


Also, MS isn't tricking anybody. Nor are they doing anything unethical. If they said "Only on Xbox" then that's a different story, but if they show no PS3 box art, it doesn't mean there ISN'T a PS3 version, it just means that there is a 360 version.

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#6 LordQuorthon
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This is a real insult to consumers intelligence. Nintendo, Sony, and even Sega (back in the day) have never stooped this low. Trying to trick ppl into thinking a game is exclusive when it really is not.

RM84x

I'm not surprised. Most of their E3 presentation was kind of built around that.

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#7 BioShockOwnz
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It's called smart business. Something Sony lacks in. They went from 1st to last in one generation transfer. Sony needs to step up its game commercially.

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#8 MegajerkNYC
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They do this quite a lot actually.
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#9 The_Game21x
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People...people are going along with this?

Oh dear.

I'm going to go weep for the future of humanity now.

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#10 moose_knuckler
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"Wii owns the closet" is still the new low in my eyes and more facepalm worthy than this.
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#11 RM84x
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It's called smart business. Something Sony lacks in. They went from 1st to last in one generation transfer. Sony needs to step up its game commercially.

BioShockOwnz

Sony does NOT need to fake an exclusive that is also on Ps3, because Ps3 has REAL top notch exclusives this year that will never be on 360.

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#14 SpruceCaboose
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Sony does this as well. Its because MS is paying part of the advertisement budget.
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#15 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="RM84x"]

This is a real insult to consumers intelligence. Nintendo, Sony, and even Sega (back in the day) have never stooped this low. Trying to trick ppl into thinking a game is exclusive when it really is not.

LordQuorthon

I'm not surprised. Most of their E3 presentation was kind of built around that.

And Sony certainly didn't say FFXIV was an exclusive title even though it's coming to the PC did they? Oh wait...
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#16 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's called smart business. Something Sony lacks in. They went from 1st to last in one generation transfer. Sony needs to step up its game commercially.

RM84x
It's not smart business. It's setting 360 fanboys up for OWNAGE. Sony does NOT need to fake an exclusive that is also on Ps3, because Ps3 has REAL top notch exclusives this year that will never be on 360.

Sony. Does. The. Same. Thing.
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#17 SW_modified
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The only version of Smackdown vs Raw 2009 advertised belonged to Sony platforms. Guess Sony was already that low.
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[QUOTE="theb4x"]You guys are morons. Half the people with 360's are on their 5th one already. The games suck, name one game for `09 and `10 that's actually fun. Ps3 has GoW III Nintendo has SMG 2 and new Zelda wtf do MS fans have?

Evidently less hyperbole than you do. Its also not a nice thing to flame people, especially when you are new.
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#20 T-Aldous
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I am just stunned at how cows are eating this up....all I can do is :lol: well maybe I should :cry: for the cows on this one.

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#21 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Sony does this as well. Its because MS is paying part of the advertisement budget.RM84x
I cant remember a time when Sony has ever done this..

Sorry you have selective memory.
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#22 moose_knuckler
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wtf do MS fans have?theb4x
And......wth does that have to do with this thread again?
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I really don't know what to think of this.
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#24 RM84x
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Ps3 exclusives are KillZone2, InFAMOUS, Uncharted 2, etc 360 exclusives are.... Fight Night R4? oh wait... that's coming to Ps3 too! LOL... Get some real exclusives to advertise MS.
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#25 CaptainHarley
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well... on the plus side i think all the free advertising you do for sony in your signature is probably offsetting microsofts desperate attempts to trick a foolhardy public into the likely scenario of spending 300+ on a new console for a boxing game

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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Sony does this as well. Its because MS is paying part of the advertisement budget.RM84x
I cant remember a time when Sony has ever done this..

Well if you can't remember then I guess they've never done it, right?

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You guys are morons. Half the people with 360's are on their 5th one already. The games suck, name one game for `09 and `10 that's actually fun. Ps3 has GoW III Nintendo has SMG 2 and new Zelda wtf do MS fans have?theb4x

Halo. Gears. Fable. Their off the top of my head. You'll say they suck, but i'll reply that yours do. Everyone has their opinion.

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#29 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I will tell you how it works: MS pays a part of the publicity budget. The dev gets money (in these times, it is needed). No one says the game is exclusive, no one lies. The dev gets money (which will be used in future games, probably also on the PS3) and MS gets a publicity boost. Everyone wins. So why complaining?
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#30 T-Aldous
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[QUOTE="RM84x"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Sony does this as well. Its because MS is paying part of the advertisement budget.moose_knuckler

I cant remember a time when Sony has ever done this..

Well if you can't remember then I guess they've never done it, right?

Funny how "goggles" can effect memory...lol
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#31 johnlennon28
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most companies would try to trick people one way or another, its been like that ever since
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#32 Warriorboy1990
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Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

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[QUOTE="RM84x"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

It's called smart business. Something Sony lacks in. They went from 1st to last in one generation transfer. Sony needs to step up its game commercially.

SpruceCaboose
It's not smart business. It's setting 360 fanboys up for OWNAGE. Sony does NOT need to fake an exclusive that is also on Ps3, because Ps3 has REAL top notch exclusives this year that will never be on 360.

Sony. Does. The. Same. Thing.

I also want to point out that the O.P is wrong. Nintendo and SEGA did this back in the day all the time. Remember "SEGA does what Nintendon't"? This has been a tactic since the dawn of time - you give a developer who makes most of their money on your platform some licensing cost breaks in exchange for favorable advertising. - And yes, Sony has been doing this as well. Arkham Asylum - the Joker bonus levels? They'll be out as DLC on LIVE, but they're "Exclusive" right? Or how about FF XIV? Or how about FF XIII for that matter? - Not to mention the dozens of game ads that only list the PS3 logo on them. - It doesn't matter anyway, do you really think the general consumer is so stupid that they'd buy a console they don't own to get a game, over asking a store clerk "hey is that on the 360 / PS3 as well?"
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#34 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]

I cant remember a time when Sony has ever done this..RM84x
Well if you can't remember then I guess they've never done it, right?

Funny how "goggles" can effect memory...lol

lol couldn't have said it any better myself.
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#35 RM84x
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]So PS3 fanboys went from "MS is paying devs for exclusive games" to "MS is paying devs for exclusive content" to "MS is paying devs for exclusive ads" (with no solid proof to back up all of these statements) TC, I don't think it is MS that has stooped to a new low.

I guess MS felt burnt after Rockstar screwed them over with this Gay Tony DLC that they paid $25 million for... so now theyre taking a more tame approach and just trying to trick customers into thinking they have exclusives when they dont.
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#36 moose_knuckler
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Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

Warriorboy1990
That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.
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[QUOTE="RM84x"]Ps3 exclusives are KillZone2, InFAMOUS, Uncharted 2, etc 360 exclusives are.... Fight Night R4? oh wait... that's coming to Ps3 too! LOL... Get some real exclusives to advertise MS.

If I prove you wrong right now, will you stop this thread?
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#38 subrosian
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well... on the plus side i think all the free advertising you do for sony in your signature is probably offsetting microsofts desperate attempts to trick a foolhardy public into the likely scenario of spending 300+ on a new console for a boxing game

CaptainHarley
I find it hard to believe that such a consumer exists. Are there people who are so dumb that they would believe a game is not on their system simply because it's not advertised for their system who have $300 ~ $400 to drop on a whim? I would think such a person would likely have already spent all of their money on whatever their spam emails told them to buy.
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[QUOTE="T-Aldous"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Well if you can't remember then I guess they've never done it, right?

moose_knuckler

Funny how "goggles" can effect memory...lol

lol couldn't have said it any better myself.

Why thank you.

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#40 Warriorboy1990
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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

moose_knuckler
That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.

Lol.....are you serious? Bill Gates is one of the richest guys in America.
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talking about desperation, TC is desperately trying to find a way to bash the hell outta the 360.
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#42 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

Warriorboy1990
That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.

Lol.....are you serious? Bill Gates is one of the richest guys in America.

And stepped down from MS, and donates more of that money to charity than some countries do. Your point?
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#43 subrosian
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="RM84x"]Ps3 exclusives are KillZone2, InFAMOUS, Uncharted 2, etc 360 exclusives are.... Fight Night R4? oh wait... that's coming to Ps3 too! LOL... Get some real exclusives to advertise MS.

If I prove you wrong right now, will you stop this thread?

Right... Halo ODST doesn't exist, Left 4 Dead 2 is showing up on the PS3, Alan Wake is coming to the PS3, and Forza 3 just went multiplat. - Oh wait, no, none of those titles are on the PS3 :P Every system has some game that some other system doesn't have. Honestly it doesn't matter, as the best games of the generation have been multiplats - Modern Warfare, Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed, Portal...
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You guys are morons. Half the people with 360's are on their 5th one already. The games suck, name one game for `09 and `10 that's actually fun. Ps3 has GoW III Nintendo has SMG 2 and new Zelda wtf do MS fans have?theb4x

Me thinks this is the TCs alt account.

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#45 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.

Lol.....are you serious? Bill Gates is one of the richest guys in America.

How does that disprove Nintendo or Sony (like I said in last post, companies involved in gaming right now) =/= "rich bastards" also?
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#47 subrosian
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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

Microsoft= rich bastards. Enough said.

Warriorboy1990
That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.

Lol.....are you serious? Bill Gates is one of the richest guys in America.

Bill Gates doesn't work for Microsoft, and hasn't for years. Bill and Melinda Gates devote the majority of their time giving their vast fortune away to worthwhile causes. They are one of the most influential charitable organizations in the world, and do wonderful things for people. Please don't disrespect genuinely kind-hearted caring people for something as petty as personal "favorite gaming system".
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[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]So PS3 fanboys went from "MS is paying devs for exclusive games" to "MS is paying devs for exclusive content" to "MS is paying devs for exclusive ads" (with no solid proof to back up all of these statements) TC, I don't think it is MS that has stooped to a new low.RM84x
I guess MS felt burnt after Rockstar screwed them over with this Gay Tony DLC that they paid $25 million for... so now theyre taking a more tame approach and just trying to trick customers into thinking they have exclusives when they dont.

Do I hear some desperation? How did R* screw MS over when they are releasing exclusive GTAIV DLC on the 360?

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#49 Warriorboy1990
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[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"][QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]That's the case with all the companies involved in gaming right now.SpruceCaboose
Lol.....are you serious? Bill Gates is one of the richest guys in America.

And stepped down from MS, and donates more of that money to charity than some countries do. Your point?

I thought he still works for Microsoft?
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#50 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="RM84x"]Ps3 exclusives are KillZone2, InFAMOUS, Uncharted 2, etc 360 exclusives are.... Fight Night R4? oh wait... that's coming to Ps3 too! LOL... Get some real exclusives to advertise MS.

If I prove you wrong right now, will you stop this thread?

Right... Halo ODST doesn't exist, Left 4 Dead 2 is showing up on the PS3, Alan Wake is coming to the PS3, and Forza 3 just went multiplat. - Oh wait, no, none of those titles are on the PS3 :P Every system has some game that some other system doesn't have. Honestly it doesn't matter, as the best games of the generation have been multiplats - Modern Warfare, Fallout 3, Assassin's Creed, Portal...

I'm talking about this whole silly "MS is the only one to do the exclusive act on multiplats". I have him dead to rights with one link, but he seems to have left.