MS needs to step up their game...

In the way of exclusives, they are offering 360 owners three games.

Crackdown 2
Ninety Nights 2
Halo Reach

Couple that with Alan Wake and what we have here, gentlemen, is a year below lackluster.

It might have been acceptable if the four games were AAA (ala, PS3 2009) but that is simply not going to be the case. Crackdown 2 isn't going to be AAA. It might not even be AA. Sure you could point to Killzone 2, but then I'd point to Lost Planet 2. In the end, we'll see, but I'm not seeing more than a 8.0.

Fable is AA franchise. It's able to produce solid titles but, it's not going to be anything special. Halo Reach is the only guranteed AAA 360 exclusive. That, my friends, is not a good thing.

The 360 needs to step up its game, D. Fo sho, dawg.

360 has no game(s)

Wait until after E3 before you start slamming a console for having no games. But at this stage is is looking a little bleek.gamebreakerz__

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Wait until after E3 before you start slamming a console for having no games. But at this stage is is looking a little bleek.Silverbond

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

360 is worth owning just for the great arcade games it has imo. but i guess they dont count even though most of them have more replay value then sonys high scoring exclusive retail games.

360 is worth owning just for the great arcade games it has imo. but i guess they dont count even though most of them have more replay value then sonys high scoring exclusive retail games.

monson21502

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Wait until after E3 before you start slamming a console for having no games. But at this stage is is looking a little bleek.gamebreakerz__

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

U2 wasn't announced at E3.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

U2 wasn't announced at E3.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"] I don't see why not, U2 at last years E3??gamebreakerz__

U2 wasn't announced at E3.

Left 4 Dead 3.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

U2 wasn't announced at E3.

HavocV3

Left 4 Dead 3.

That's true. That'd be pretty bad. But, it's possible.

OT: What's the case going to look like when they get to L4D4? Because they've already done the 4 finger thing.

For the record, I can't wait for Ninety-Nine Nights 2. Another 360 exclusive.

Edit: Wow, I totally missed the second post. But yeah, Ninety-Nine Nights 2! Woo!

And what about Mass Effect 2? It might be a Microsoft exclusive, but it's still adds to the 360 lineup. If it weren't for Red Dead Redemption it would still be number one for GotY, & after last year, could still possibly win GotY.

I agree. I wanna see Microsoft start expanding there 1st party studios like sony.

My problem isn't so much with the lack of new exclusives, but the carbon copies: Dante's Inferno from God of War, Bayonetta from Devil May Cry, Resonance of Fate from Enchanted Arms (And Enchanted Arms plagiarized so many aspects from various games, it almost made me ralph.)

Fable III may not be AAA, but at least it's not going out of it's way to produce a game with the stank of another, more popular title. From what I saw in the interview, they appeared to be trying to make the game more innovative. On that note, I can't wait for them to elaborate on Morphing Weapons.

Edit: Spelling correction.

And what about Mass Effect 2? It might be a Microsoft exclusive, but it's still adds to the 360 lineup. If it weren't for Red Dead Redemption it would still be number one for GotY, & after last year, could still possibly win GotY.

Twin-Blade

ME2 isn't a MS exclusive.

But, lets assume it is. It only makes the 360 lineup suck slightly less.

I agree. I wanna see Microsoft start expanding there 1st party studios like sony.

Respawn-d

My problem isn't so much with the lack of new exlcusives, but the carbon copies: Dante's Inferno from God of War, Bayonetta from Devil May Cry, Resonance of Fate from Enchanted Arms (And Enchanted Arms plagiarized so many aspects from various games, it almost made me ralph.)

Fable III may not be AAA, but at least it's not going out of it's way to produce a game with the stank of another, more popular title. From what I saw in the interview, they appeared to be trying to make the game more innovative. On that note, I can't wait for them to elaborate on Morphing Weapons.

jbarry89

or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? fastr

confirmed.

thread am gone hell.:?

or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, fastr

Those games would be on the PS3 as well. :|

and you could easily say the same about sony cuz all they really have as a AAAE is lbp2 so far for this year... and socom 4Bangerman15

Because MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB 10, GoW3, and MNR stopped existing, right?

or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? fastr

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

[QUOTE="fastr"]or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? BPoole96

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

That's clearly the only answer.

[QUOTE="fastr"]or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? BPoole96

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? fastr

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

[QUOTE="Bangerman15"]and you could easily say the same about sony cuz all they really have as a AAAE is lbp2 so far for this year... and socom 4Silverbond

Because MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB 10, GoW3, and MNR stopped existing, right?

to be fair. you made the focal point of the thread around the 'AAA' status. maybe that wasn't the intentional, but the Fable 3 and Reach comments made it sound like the proposed ideal.

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

And what about Mass Effect 2? It might be a Microsoft exclusive, but it's still adds to the 360 lineup. If it weren't for Red Dead Redemption it would still be number one for GotY, & after last year, could still possibly win GotY.

Silverbond

ME2 isn't a MS exclusive.

But, lets assume it is. It only makes the 360 lineup suck slightly less.

Mass Effect 2 was released on Xbox 360, a Microsoft console, & on the PC as a "Games for Windows Live" title. Seems like a Microsoft exclusive to me. Also, many people happen to love 360s lineup. The only lineup that seems close to 360s, in my opinion, has been the Wii, which has surprised me this year.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Bangerman15"]and you could easily say the same about sony cuz all they really have as a AAAE is lbp2 so far for this year... and socom 4HavocV3

Because MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB 10, GoW3, and MNR stopped existing, right?

to be fair. you made the focal point of the thread around the 'AAA' status. maybe that wasn't the intentional, but the Fable 3 and Reach comments made it sound like the proposed ideal.

Even then, LBP2 won't be the 1st AAAE if it does indeed score a 9 or 9.5.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

And what about Mass Effect 2? It might be a Microsoft exclusive, but it's still adds to the 360 lineup. If it weren't for Red Dead Redemption it would still be number one for GotY, & after last year, could still possibly win GotY.

Twin-Blade

ME2 isn't a MS exclusive.

But, lets assume it is. It only makes the 360 lineup suck slightly less.

Mass Effect 2 was released on Xbox 360, a Microsoft console, & on the PC as a "Games for Windows Live" title. Seems like a Microsoft exclusive to me. Also, many people happen to love 360s lineup. The only lineup that seems close to 360s, in my opinion, has been the Wii, which has surprised me this year.

ME2 wasn't on the GFWL line-up.

it means something, rather than nothing. really all there is to it.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

And what about Mass Effect 2? It might be a Microsoft exclusive, but it's still adds to the 360 lineup. If it weren't for Red Dead Redemption it would still be number one for GotY, & after last year, could still possibly win GotY.

Twin-Blade

ME2 isn't a MS exclusive.

But, lets assume it is. It only makes the 360 lineup suck slightly less.

Mass Effect 2 was released on Xbox 360, a Microsoft console, & on the PC as a "Games for Windows Live" title. Seems like a Microsoft exclusive to me. Also, many people happen to love 360s lineup. The only lineup that seems close to 360s, in my opinion, has been the Wii, which has surprised me this year.

Mass Effect 2 was released on Xbox 360, a Microsoft console, & on the PC as a "Games for Windows Live" title.

Twin-Blade

Um.... no. It wasnt.

Well, it got the bette version of RDR, as usual with most multiplats, so even without tones and tones of exclusives, it still beats out PS3 for many many multiplat games for quality. Totally worth owning, and a great compliment to a PS3.

[QUOTE="Bangerman15"]and you could easily say the same about sony cuz all they really have as a AAAE is lbp2 so far for this year... and socom 4Silverbond

Because MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB 10, GoW3, and MNR stopped existing, right?

GoW III is the only AAA in that list. Mass Effect 2 & Halo Reach already trump the PS3 in that area. MAG is an average shooter at best, MLB 10 & Crackdown can cancel each other out score wise, Heavy Rain scored an AA, which is what Fable III is likely to get at the very least, & MNR is another AA title, which Alan Wake cancels out. I'd take Fable III & Alan Wake over Heavy Rain & MNR any day. Then there is SC: C & Metro 2033.

I could also add the superior version of Bayonetta, but I wouldn't need to. N3 didn't do too well with critics, & while N3-2 is one of my most anticipated games this year, I won't include it.

Edit: After a quick google search I saw comments on the GFWL forum & assumed it was, but now I'm not 100%. Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Bangerman15"]and you could easily say the same about sony cuz all they really have as a AAAE is lbp2 so far for this year... and socom 4Twin-Blade

Because MAG, Heavy Rain, MLB 10, GoW3, and MNR stopped existing, right?

GoW III is the only AAA in that list. Mass Effect 2 & Halo Reach already trump the PS3 in that area. MAG is an average shooter at best, MLB 10 & Crackdown can cancel each other out score wise, Heavy Rain scored an AA, which is what Fable III is likely to get at the very least, & MNR is another AA title, which Alan Wake cancels out. I'd take Fable III & Alan Wake over Heavy Rain & MNR any day. Then there is SC: C.

I could also add the superior version of Bayonetta, but I wouldn't need to. N3 didn't do too well with critics, & while N3-2 is one of my most anticipated games this year, I won't include it.

Its funny when people think a games exclusive Just because the game has a *Game for Windows Live* Logo on it. Does this mean we can include PSP Games Or DS for the wii JUST because it has a Sony or Nintendo Logo on it ? Use common sense plez.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

GoW III is the only AAA in that list. Mass Effect 2 & Halo Reach already trump the PS3 in that area. MAG is an average shooter at best, MLB 10 & Crackdown can cancel each other out score wise, Heavy Rain scored an AA, which is what Fable III is likely to get at the very least, & MNR is another AA title, which Alan Wake cancels out. I'd take Fable III & Alan Wake over Heavy Rain & MNR any day. Then there is SC: C.

I could also add the superior version of Bayonetta, but I wouldn't need to. N3 didn't do too well with critics, & while N3-2 is one of my most anticipated games this year, I won't include it.

Twin-Blade

Of course, it is an opinion. Everyone has one. I enjoyed Fable 2, albeit not as much as the original, & got my moneys worth from it ($110 AU). I can't justify paying that price for a single playthrough for a short... game.

Its funny when people think a games exclusive Just because the game has a *Game for Windows Live* Logo on it. Does this mean we can include PSP Games Or DS for the wii JUST because it has a Sony or Nintendo Logo on it ? Use common sense plez.

Blake135

If the DS or PSP game is also on the PS3, why not. The differ greatly anyway. Silverbond regards MLB 10 as a PS3 exclusive, & I would agree.

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Twin-Blade

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS. Mainly because MS doesn't own the PC.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="fastr"]or if you weren't such a cow you would realize they have console exclusives, along with those other exclusives that rock, and the ps3 has nothing to challenge them.What does the ps3 have, heavy rain and god of war? really.. ? realllllyy? fastr

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

Alright so far this year PS3 has God of War 3 (AAA), Heavy Rain (AAE), MLB 10 The Show (AAE), Yakuza 3 (AAE), MAG (AAE), 3D Dot Game Heroes (AE), plus Modnation Racer coming next week which will probably be another A-AAE. None of those fall under 'mediocre crap'.

Even if we do count what 360 has this year with 360/PC titles, it only has Mass Effect 2 (AAA), Splinter Cell (AA), Metro 2033 (A) and Alan Wake (AAE).

Now can you exlpain to me how those are equal? Try not to make me laugh too hard though

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Silverbond

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS.

MLB 10:

PS3 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb10/index.html

PS2 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/mlb10/index.html

PSP - http://au.gamespot.com/psp/sports/mlb10/index.html

Right..

And PC releases don't benefit the company whose OS is on a majority of gamers PCs?

Right..

Regardless, you still haven't responded to my earlier post comparing the PS3 & 360 lineups, or are you just looking for a reaction? In response to your original post, if anybody needs to step of their game this year, it is Sony.

[QUOTE="lbjkurono23"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

GoW III is the only AAA in that list. Mass Effect 2 & Halo Reach already trump the PS3 in that area. MAG is an average shooter at best, MLB 10 & Crackdown can cancel each other out score wise, Heavy Rain scored an AA, which is what Fable III is likely to get at the very least, & MNR is another AA title, which Alan Wake cancels out. I'd take Fable III & Alan Wake over Heavy Rain & MNR any day. Then there is SC: C.

I could also add the superior version of Bayonetta, but I wouldn't need to. N3 didn't do too well with critics, & while N3-2 is one of my most anticipated games this year, I won't include it.

Twin-Blade

Of course, it is an opinion. Everyone has one. I enjoyed Fable 2, albeit not as much as the original, & got my moneys worth from it ($110 AU). I can't justify paying that price for a single playthrough for a short... game.

I've logged more hours inX-fire(other than Demon souls) than on any other high scoring tittles.

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Twin-Blade

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS.

MLB 10:

PS3 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb10/index.html

PS2 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/mlb10/index.html

PSP - http://au.gamespot.com/psp/sports/mlb10/index.html

Right..

And PC releases don't benefit the company whose OS is on a majority of gamers PCs?

Right..

Regardless, you still haven't responded to my earlier post comparing the PS3 & 360 lineups, or are you just looking for a reaction? In response to your original post, if anybody needs to step of their game this year, it is Sony.

Everyone on SW came to the conclusion that MLB 10 was different enough from the other versions to be considered exclusive.

And this isn't company wars

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Twin-Blade

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS.

MLB 10:
PS3 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb10/index.html
PS2 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/mlb10/index.html
PSP - http://au.gamespot.com/psp/sports/mlb10/index.html

Right..

And PC releases don't benefit the company whose OS is on a majority of gamers PCs?

Right..

Regardless, you still haven't responded to my earlier post comparing the PS3 & 360 lineups, or are you just looking for a reaction? In response to your original post, if anybody needs to step of their game this year, it is Sony.

MLB 10 has been argued over. It's exclusive. End of discussion.

Company exclusives don't exist.

As far as the last part of your post is concerned: are you serious?

Exclusives only matter on here, Multiplat titles like MW2, Fifa 10, AC2 and GTA 4 sell more and move more systems than most exclusives. Look at MW2, it has sold more than Uncharted 1& 2, Killzone 2 and GOW 3 combined, does it take anything away from the quality of games? No... Microsoft are a multi billion pound company generating huge profits, they dont need to step up any game. If you take last gens sales, PS2 140 Mill, Xbox 25 mil, Gamecube 20 iirc thats a total of 185 million systems sold over 10 years. If you take this gens sales, wii 70 mill, Xbox 40 Mil and PS3 35 mil for a total of 145 mil over 5 years then bar Son;, they allhave been very successfull.

Exclusives only matter on here, Multiplat titles like MW2, Fifa 10, AC2 and GTA 4 sell more and move more systems than most exclusives. Look at MW2, it has sold more than Uncharted 1& 2, Killzone 2 and GOW 3 combined, does it take anything away from the quality of games? No... Microsoft are a multi billion pound company generating huge profits, they dont need to step up any game. If you take last gens sales, PS2 140 Mill, Xbox 25 mil, Gamecube 20 iirc thats a total of 185 million systems sold over 10 years. If you take this gens sales, wii 70 mill, Xbox 40 Mil and PS3 35 mil for a total of 145 mil over 5 years then bar Son;, they allhave been very successfull.

ccagracing

Because how they're doing financially is totally my point...

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS.

Silverbond

MLB 10:
PS3 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/mlb10/index.html
PS2 - http://au.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/mlb10/index.html
PSP - http://au.gamespot.com/psp/sports/mlb10/index.html

Right..

And PC releases don't benefit the company whose OS is on a majority of gamers PCs?

Right..

Regardless, you still haven't responded to my earlier post comparing the PS3 & 360 lineups, or are you just looking for a reaction? In response to your original post, if anybody needs to step of their game this year, it is Sony.

MLB 10 has been argued over. It's exclusive. End of discusssion.

Company exclusives don't exist.

As far as the last part of your post is concerned: are you serious?

I wasn't apart of that discussion. :P

I do agree that it is exclusive, but I also believe Mass Effect 2 is. That is another argument entirely. The point is, when comparing the 360 & PS3, Mass Effect 2 is on the 360. As for the last part of my post, you'll need to be more specific. Sony needing to step up their game? I believe their doing fine, but in comparison to the other consoles this year & with you thinking Microsoft needs to, Sony should be more inclined to do so.

Or the reaction part? As for that, I'm not sure. You don't seem to respond to anything I've said except in regards to the exclusivity of Mass Effect 2 & MLB 10, & if you didn't think you would get a reaction from a thread like this on System Wars I don't know what you were thinking.

Gotta love how people only say a system is good if it gets a certain number of AAA titles in a year. In the real world, people enjoy games that are AA or A. The 360 has still had a good year, even if the titles don't reach AAA on Gamespot.