MS needs to step up their game...

Gotta love how people only say a system is good if it gets a certain number of AAA titles in a year. In the real world, people enjoy games that are AA or A. The 360 has still had a good year, even if the titles don't reach AAA on Gamespot.

caryslan2

I love N3 & it got a 5.9. :D

N3-2 is one of my most anticipated titles this year, & I'm sure it's bound to get below A (7).

Silverbond,

They are realising the biggest Exclusive (console wise) that there is in Halo and could feasibly shift 10-12 million copies of that. Enter big games like Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell and Fable 3 along with the Multi Plat titles like Fifa 11, COD, Madden for the yanks and I dont see what more they can offer. Fan boys on here always go on about new IP's, but what about making the existing IP's the best they can be through sequels?Lets net forget that the biggest selling game on PS3 is amultiplat in Modern Warfare 2. I personally only want good games and dont care what platform they are on or if they are exclusive or not.

Silverbond,

They are realising the biggest Exclusive (console wise) that there is in Halo and could feasibly shift 10-12 million copies of that. Enter big games like Mass Effect 2, Splinter Cell and Fable 3 along with the Multi Plat titles like Fifa 11, COD, Madden for the yanks and I dont see what more they can offer. Fan boys on here always go on about new IP's, but what about making the existing IP's the best they can be through sequels?Lets net forget that the biggest selling game on PS3 is a multiplatin Modern Warfare 2. I personally only want good games and dont care what platform they are on or if they are exclusive or not.

ccagracing

correct me if i'm wrong but ist MW2 also the best selling game on the 360?

Gotta love how people only say a system is good if it gets a certain number of AAA titles in a year. In the real world, people enjoy games that are AA or A. The 360 has still had a good year, even if the titles don't reach AAA on Gamespot.

caryslan2

I'd really love it if you could show me exactly where I said that.

AAAs arent the only great games, i've had some of my favourite games ever this year with Alan Wake and ME2 regardless of exclusivity or score. If all you care about is SW then yeah this year has been lacklustre for the 360, i dont see why MS would need to step up their game for a forum though.

For a software company MS fail pretty damn hard. They have crap devs and a poorly made console.

Sony have done far better despite being a hardware company. they have great devs, with tons of talent and funding, and have made a vert strong console.

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Silverbond

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS. Mainly because MS doesn't own the PC.

Wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with a AAA - Multiplat AAAA's are the only games that I find worth playing.

That's just how I roll. :twisted:

Anyway, there is more great games available on 360 then I have time in the day to play them all sooo, just sayin. :P

[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

Regardless, PC releases benefit Microsoft, & to say Mass Effect 2 & Splinter Cell Conviction don't contribute to the 360s lineup over the other consoles is ridiculous. Also, you seemed to have no problem throwing MLB 10 into your lineup.

Silverbond

MLB 10 is exclusive. PC releases do NOT benefit MS. Mainly because MS doesn't own the PC.

And yet Halo Reach will out sell any game sony puts out by 2x. Maybe even more.

In the way of exclusives, they are offering 360 owners three games.

Crackdown 2
Fable 3
Halo Reach

Couple that with Alan Wake and what we have here, gentlemen, is a year below lackluster.

It might have been acceptable if the four games were AAA (ala, PS3 2009) but that is simply not going to be the case. Crackdown 2 isn't going to be AAA. It might not even be AA. Sure you could point to Killzone 2, but then I'd point to Lost Planet 2. In the end, we'll see, but I'm not seeing more than a 8.0.

Fable is AA franchise. It's able to produce solid titles but, it's not going to be anything special. Halo Reach is the only guranteed AAA 360 exclusive. That, my friends, is not a good thing.

The 360 needs to step up its game, D. Fo sho, dawg.

Silverbond

Fable 3

Crackdown 2

Halo Reach

+ Natal games

+ 2 new Rareware confirmed titles

+ Mass Effect 3

+ Kingdom Under Fire 2

+ Gears of War 3

For a pre-E3 confirmed lineup, seems a million times better than anything the competition has

And yet Halo Reach will out sell any game sony puts out by 2x. Maybe even more.

James161324

When do fanboys go nuts. When the other console has big games coming out. So my the reaction of ps3 fanboys the 360 has some huge games coming out this year.

Excuslives and multiplats usually sell better on the 360. esp. fps.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

And yet Halo Reach will out sell any game sony puts out by 2x. Maybe even more.

Nedemis

All of Fable 3, Halo Reach and Gears 3 have a good chance to move 3+ million each

Even Fable 2 sold 3.5 million, and with Gears 1-2 selling 6 million each, the next few months MS is going to be bathing in money actually

Also Fable 3 looks a million times better than Fable 2, with actual castles and castled cities, an overworld map, strategic garissons in cities etc etc, the game looks to be going to gaming heaven

And Gears 3 looks amazing too, plus Halo Reach seems like Bungie best work yet, by far and with Halo 3 selling more than 10 million !!!! i guess we can expect the most busy 360 months soon

And all that wihtout even touching on Natal and new Rareware games, plus KUF2 and whatever surprises MS will have in store

M$ should step down from the game and call it quits.
It's pretty obvious they are getting desperate...thinking stuff like project FAILTAL will be their trump card. Even leaving stuff like that out of the equation then they have no new IP's. Halo: Reach....reaaalllly now? So far Alan Wake and Splinter Cell were going to be the counterfire of M$...and what happened is history.

Agreed. The 360 lineup as is, is quite pathetic.

One slightly off year and the sky is falling.

You guys crack me up.

360 is worth owning just for the great arcade games it has imo. but i guess they dont count even though most of them have more replay value then sonys high scoring exclusive retail games.

And yet Halo Reach will out sell any game sony puts out by 2x. Maybe even more.

M$ should step down from the game and call it quits.
It's pretty obvious they are getting desperate...thinking stuff like project FAILTAL will be their trump card. Even leaving stuff like that out of the equation then they have no new IP's. Halo: Reach....reaaalllly now? So far Alan Wake and Splinter Cell were going to be the counterfire of M$...and what happened is history.

Locutus_Picard

Agreed. The 360 lineup as is, is quite pathetic.

Bigboi500

Well, given Fable 3 is my most wnated game right now, by far, and Gears 3 my most wanted shooter, and Mass Effect 3 my most wanted WRPG and KUF2 my most wanted startegy game, well the lineup seems better than anything out there

Add the fact that Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2 were twothe best games i played this year on top

BTW here is the predicted sales up to Gears 3

Fable 3 - 4 million

Gears 3 - 6 million

Halo Reach - 10 million

A sum of 20 million game copies sold in the next few months, i suppose they would wait a bit befor "quitting" the multi billion profit business

In the way of exclusives, they are offering 360 owners three games.

Crackdown 2
Fable 3
Halo Reach

Couple that with Alan Wake and what we have here, gentlemen, is a year below lackluster.

It might have been acceptable if the four games were AAA (ala, PS3 2009) but that is simply not going to be the case. Crackdown 2 isn't going to be AAA. It might not even be AA. Sure you could point to Killzone 2, but then I'd point to Lost Planet 2. In the end, we'll see, but I'm not seeing more than a 8.0.

Fable is AA franchise. It's able to produce solid titles but, it's not going to be anything special. Halo Reach is the only guranteed AAA 360 exclusive. That, my friends, is not a good thing.

The 360 needs to step up its game, D. Fo sho, dawg.

Silverbond

But i'll buy most of those and pretty much every multiplat on the system, so they're gonna be getting a ****load of money from me.

Hmm its a bit silly creating a thread like this just before E3, no?Anjunaddict

Well, 360 has so many confirmed stunning games, that does not even need E3, while i would not say the same for the other systems

Are we debating this from the SW bubble or as it relates to reality?

In SW, 360 could be doing better.

In reality the 360 is already having a great year with ME2, Bayonetta, Alan Wake, RDR in addition the games coming later.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

U2 wasn't announced at E3.

Are we debating this from the SW bubble or as it relates to reality?

In SW, 360 could be doing better.

In reality the 360 is already having a great year with ME2, Bayonetta, Alan Wake, RDR in addition the games coming later.

in terms of SW and exclusives, yes, the 360 is having a lackluster year

but in reality, it's doing just fine.. it's not in any sort of drought and it's still getting some great games

I understand this is system wars, but you guys really really have to get off the AAA amount and understand that AA games are great to. Just seperate the score from the actual game and play it. Enough with this stupid letter score determining the epicness of a system. I mean you want to compare AAA thats cool, but to sit here and say MS has to step up their game because they don't have AAA games this year is just rediculous. They can't determine what score game gets its all opinionated.

Since its obvious this is a 360 vs PS3 thing, I disagree.

Ill take ME2, SCC, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Fable 3 and Halo Reach over GoW3, Heavy Rain, Modnation, LBP2 and GT5.

it depend on ur tastes i like the 360 exclusive and 360/pc exclusive much more than ps3 exclusives. actually other than god of war 3 and ninja gaiden 2 i hate almost every ps3 exclusive available.

in terms of SW and exclusives, yes, the 360 is having a lackluster year

but in reality, it's doing just fine.. it's not in any sort of drought and it's still getting some great games

Sword-Demon

Some of the best games i played this year are definatly Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2 and Splinter cell Conviction

In fact i bought them all, while i only rented GOW3

Since its obvious this is a 360 vs PS3 thing, I disagree.

Ill take ME2, SCC, Alan Wake, Crackdown 2, Fable 3 and Halo Reach over GoW3, Heavy Rain, Modnation, LBP2 and GT5.

h575309

It's also equally obvious that this is a 360 vs PS3 EXCLUSIVE thing. ;)

And yet Halo Reach will out sell any game sony puts out by 2x. Maybe even more.

James161324

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Wait until after E3 before you start slamming a console for having no games. But at this stage is is looking a little bleek.Silverbond

Because games announced next month are totally going to be able to make it by the end of the year, right?

I understand this is system wars, but you guys really really have to get off the AAA amount and understand that AA games are great to. Just seperate the score from the actual game and play it. Enough with this stupid letter score determining the epicness of a system. I mean you want to compare AAA thats cool, but to sit here and say MS has to step up their game because they don't have AAA games this year is just rediculous. They can't determine what score game gets its all opinionated.

xscrapzx

One slightly off year and the sky is falling.

You guys crack me up.

LordRork

One? I've seen and felt a decline since 2008, just saying.

The PS3 catching up in the SW exclusive meta game is obviously proof of that...how did the PS3 turn things around, it was doing so poor at first.

[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

Yeah. Those 2 games suck :roll:

BPoole96

Alright so far this year PS3 has God of War 3 (AAA), Heavy Rain (AAE), MLB 10 The Show (AAE), Yakuza 3 (AAE), MAG (AAE), 3D Dot Game Heroes (AE), plus Modnation Racer coming next week which will probably be another A-AAE. None of those fall under 'mediocre crap'.

Even if we do count what 360 has this year with 360/PC titles, it only has Mass Effect 2 (AAA), Splinter Cell (AA), Metro 2033 (A) and Alan Wake (AAE).

Now can you exlpain to me how those are equal? Try not to make me laugh too hard though

....cute.

....cute.

Swift_Boss_A

Thank you?

I own a Xbox 360, PC, and a Wii.

Each console has a great library and has been keeping me busy for yours.

Now, here is where your argument comes into play. You say Microsoft needs to step it up, yet me, someone I would consider a "hardcore" gamer, who games daily, has beaten tons of a games etc is completely content with Microsoft's Xox 360. So, what I'm saying is, if you own a PS3, the Xbox360 may look like it's slacking. But in reality, it isn't.

MorphX> all.

360 has sealed the year.