MS: One Halo Game Every Three Years Not Frequent Enough

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#1 Zune_HD
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For more than the first half of Microsoft's foray into the videogame world, players looked on with interest for years as they waited for the next Halo game to materialize. Recently, with the releases of Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach, that wait has been reduced to 12 months or less. Expect that trend of short waits to continue, though perhaps not necessarily on an annualized pace.

Corporate Vice President for
Microsoft Game Studios Phil Spencer told IGN that, "There's no explicit strategy that says we're to ship a Halo game every year. I will say I think one Halo game every three years -- which was kind of our old cadence – is probably not frequent enough."

Spencer noted the long life of the Halo franchise and pointed out that leaving such large gaps in between releases can be detrimental to audience engagement.


"We're coming up on, what, next year is the 10th anniversary. You watch the change in gamers in 10 years. The percentage of players who are playing Reach that were I'll say not old enough to play Halo 1 at the time, 10 years is a long time between launches. We definitely think about a more persistent Halo engagement for customers and not going dark for two years, and Live helps obviously with multiplayer to keep people engaged."


"343 Industries is thinking a lot about how to take this franchise and turn it into something that people feel like they have an ongoing relationship with and they can entertain themselves more often. But it's not, hey every November 6 or whatever we have to ship a game and build a production plan around that. We want to do things that make sense as a first party."


Asked if Microsoft took cues from the success Activision has had with its annualized Call of Duty franchise, Spencer had high praise for the mega-publisher.


"I'll just, again, be honest as a gamer. I used to look at annual releases of non-sports games as people just trying to milk me. I figured nobody had enough time to do a good job, and all of the negatives that we would associate with those kinds of scenarios. Kudos to Activision because they've done a good job building a good game, continuing to release each year and I think the fans feel like it's a good thing that they do that. I think there are some things to learn, some positives and some opportunities, in what they do with that. Obviously they've kept the quality extremely high, which I think is important."


"We have some unique challenges and opportunities with Halo because it is a story based game built around a certain set of characters, which is a bit different than what they do with Call of Duty. Not better or worse, it's just different. But watching them and seeing what they do -- we take inspiration from a lot of places -- but obviously they're a big success."


If Microsoft annualized the Halo franchise, would you continue to buy each release? Leave a comment below and let us know your thoughts.

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Please MS, don't kill the Halo brand.

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#2 lbjkurono23
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ROFL following in the footsteps of activision :lol:
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#3 MasterBolt360
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"There's no explicit strategy that says we're to ship a Halo game every year. I will say I think making lots more money -- which was kind of our old cadence – is probably not frequent enough."

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#4 xXCombatWombat
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I'd be ok with even every 2 years, but every year good god...CoD all over again.

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#5 pppjjj
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Well Halo is just about dead now lmao.:P

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#6 FlamesOfGrey
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Who didn't actually see Microsoft wanting yearly releases of Halo coming after seeing Call Of Duty clean wallets every year...:roll:

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#7 DarkerKamikaze
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I wonder if anyone is really even that interested in 343's Halo games, I could see people just sticking with Reach if they don't match it in quality.

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#8 timmy00
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I'd be ok with even every 2 years, but every year good god...CoD all over again.

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Technically each new COD get about 2 years of development time so if there was a Halo every 2 years, they would have the same development time.

Can't blame MS considering how much money Halo makes.

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#9 GTSaiyanjin2
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I like to See halo Reach on the PC :D

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#10 monson21502
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well if you made 200 million off a day of sales you would want more games out sooner too

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#11 Keiji993
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Lol 360 fans are excited, COD and Halo every year confirmed? :lol:

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#12 DarkGamer007
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Unless 343 Industries really impresses the hell out of me, I will not buy another Halo game, especially if one is released yearly. I'm content with Reach and will play it for years to come.

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#13 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

I'd be ok with even every 2 years, but every year good god...CoD all over again.

timmy00

Technically each new COD get about 2 years of development time so if there was a Halo every 2 years, they would have the same development time.

Can't blame MS considering how much money Halo makes.

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

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#14 Wasdie  Moderator
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As far as I'm concerned, Halo without Bungie is not Halo.

They can do what they want with the series. Unless it improves over the original, I'm not going to consider any non-Bungie Halo game a true Halo game.

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#15 gammon56
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Oh dear nooooooooooooooo. Halo is worth the wait dont ruin it 343.

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#16 DarkLink77
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It's not really a true Halo unless Bungie is helming it anyway.

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#17 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="xXCombatWombat"]

I'd be ok with even every 2 years, but every year good god...CoD all over again.

Keiji993

Technically each new COD get about 2 years of development time so if there was a Halo every 2 years, they would have the same development time.

Can't blame MS considering how much money Halo makes.

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

I doubt MS would do that.

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#18 Vader993
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i wonder when the golden age of fps will end

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#19 Keiji993
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Technically each new COD get about 2 years of development time so if there was a Halo every 2 years, they would have the same development time.

Can't blame MS considering how much money Halo makes.

timmy00

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

I doubt MS would do that.

I can see it happening because MS goes where the money is at. If they don't want to do it MS might close down their studio too. Their looking at COD's success and want to make more money and Halo does that + they wouldn't have to advertise much for the next one because of Reach.

:roll:

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#20 Cruse34
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Its true Halo can never bet COD if they only have a game every three years

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#21 EdenProxy
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SO MUCH FOR "Finishing the fight" In 2007

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#22 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

Keiji993

I doubt MS would do that.

I can see it happening because MS goes where the money is at. If they don't want to do it MS might close down their studio too. Their looking at COD's success and want to make more money and Halo does that + they wouldn't have to advertise much for the next one because of Reach.

:roll:

They put more money into new exclusives and they may get more than just one halo a year. I would assume MS would be smart enough to know that they're going to need more than just 1 exclusive a year. You know so more people will buy their systems.

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#23 soulitane
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SO MUCH FOR "Finishing the fight" In 2007

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You do know that was meant for master chiefs fight right? Anyway I'm not really that optimistic about new Halo games.
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#24 TacticalDesire
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If they released annual Halo games I definitely wouldn't buy em all.

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#25 lbjkurono23
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

[QUOTE="timmy00"]Technically each new COD get about 2 years of development time so if there was a Halo every 2 years, they would have the same development time.

Can't blame MS considering how much money Halo makes.

timmy00

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

I doubt MS would do that.

They rather spend money on exclusive dlc than building new ip... what makes you think they wont do this when it guarantees them huge profits :lol: smh.

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#26 bigboss5ak
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I would love that
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#28 timmy00
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[QUOTE="timmy00"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]

All they have to do is hire more developers so they can make 1 a year, they would pour money in that instead of exclusives because Halo sells.

lbjkurono23

I doubt MS would do that.

They rather spend money on exclusive dlc than building new ip... what makes you think they wont do this when it guarantees them huge profits :lol: smh.

You just answered your own question...

:P

It just my hunch. That's all. Do you think MS would waste all their resources just to get one exclusive game out a year? (no matter how big it is)

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#29 dachase
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M$: We have no new ip's coming nor do we want to spend the money developing one so we'll give you Halo every year.

Its a good business move but bad for the consumer because with a new Halo and CoD every year, you get a yearly Live fee increase. Its going to be hard to justify $100 for Live in a few years

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#30 VendettaRed07
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Welp.. Good bye Halo. It was fun while it lasted......

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#31 aia89
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we should all unite and support Pc gaming.

not joking.

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#32 PBSnipes
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Hooray for manufactured controversy?

The only thing Spencer explicitly states is that they won't be going to a strict game-a-year strategy. Outside of that, I don't think anyone can say they're shocked to hear that MS thinks three-year development cycles are longer than they would like, especially considering how many franchises do just fine on ~2 year development cycles. And while I'm sure people here (including myself) would argue against the quality of the CoD franchise, it's clearly doing something right in terms of satisfying its consumer base.

Long story short: this isn't even remotely newsworthy.

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#33 Keiji993
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M$: We have no new ip's coming nor do we want to spend the money developing one so we'll give you Halo every year.

Its a good business move but bad for the consumer because with a new Halo and CoD every year, you get a yearly Live fee increase. Its going to be hard to justify $100 for Live in a few years

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They will keep using its worth the value because they can play online.

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#34 PAL360
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I love Halo but if it goes in CoD direction then im out.

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#35 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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If they had some more AAA exclusives to call their own they wouldn't need to worry about the frequency of 1 single game.

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#36 johny300
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Microsoft will lose a lot of fans if there is a HALO game every year imo.
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#37 FIipMode
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Well lets not jump to conclusions, you don't know if it's getting the COD treatment yet.
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#38 Arach666
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That was so predictable that it´s not even funny.

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Who didn't actually see Microsoft wanting yearly releases of Halo coming after seeing Call Of Duty clean wallets every year...:roll:

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This is true. I was hoping for CoD to get old quickly and fade into obscurity like Guitar Hero and Tony Hawk. This sucks because I actually enjoyed Halo and it's universe, now games are just going to be rushed out.
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#41 iMojo786_PSN
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360 fans rejoice, you get not only CoD every year with exclusive map packs, but Halo too :shock:

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#42 FragTycoon
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360 fans rejoice, you get not only CoD every year with exclusive map packs, but Halo too :shock:

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Awesome!!! Can we pay an ongoing fee to play them as well? Yes? SWEEEET!

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#43 FlamesOfGrey
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If Microsoft does yearly Halo releases they don't even need to waste money getting more FPS exclusives for the 360. They'll have timed exclusive DLC for COD and a new Halo every year plus the Xbox Gold increased price. Microsoft will be rolling in even more money hooray. Smart Company. 8)

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#44 soulitane
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If Microsoft does yearly Halo releases they don't even need to waste money getting more FPS exclusives for the 360. They'll have timed exclusie DLC for COD and a new Halo every year plus the Xbox Gold increased price. Microsoft will be rolling in even more money hooray. Smart Company.FlamesOfGrey
Maybe that's what they meant by getting more exclusive FPS's.
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#45 JohnF111
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Who didn't actually see Microsoft wanting yearly releases of Halo coming after seeing Call Of Duty clean wallets every year...:roll:

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Thats just it, the final cash in before Kinect put a tap on MS's wallet.
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#46 oldkingallant
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I wonder if anyone is really even that interested in 343's Halo games, I could see people just sticking with Reach if they don't match it in quality.

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The casual gamers who make about about 80% of Halo's install base, like most big selling games, don't know the difference between Bungie and 343. Most of the Call of Duty players I know don't even know Infinity Ward is done, and they didn't know W@W was a different dev :|.
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#47 Vader993
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now there will be a bad halo game nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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#48 mccoyca112
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Better not pull a call of duty.

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#49 alexside1
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The title is misleading. He says "PROBABLY'" not frequent enough. Sheesh people you need to read.
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#50 myke2010
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Wow, didn't see this one comin.

/sarcasm

I really couldn't care less. I bought the Halo games because Bungie is a great dev. If 343 can put up some decent Halo games then great. If not, who cares, I still get my Bungie titles so I'm happy.