MS: you dont want smash bros xbox

I think X-fans are outta line in this thread....totally outta line.

This forum is filled with idiots then the last 2. You guys do realize that MS could make a better and more diverse SSB type game than both Sony and Nintendo when they have rights to around 120 IPS alone, so what?Dr-Brilliant

lol, and MS COULD offer XBL for free like every other game company out, but they don't now do they?

In fantasyland alot of things could be, but in reality you have to deal with what actually is. MS isn't trying much of anything now a days so why defend them?

I think X-fans are outta line in this thread....totally outta line.

clr84651

May I step back in the line?

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"]This forum is filled with idiots then the last 2. You guys do realize that MS could make a better and more diverse SSB type game than both Sony and Nintendo when they have rights to around 120 IPS alone, so what?casharmy

lol, and MS COULD offer XBL for free like every other game company out, but they don't now do they?

In fantasyland alot of things could be, but in reality you have to deal with what actually is.

Who actually clicked the link? He doesn't say anything close to the OP. Ninja-Hippo

Mhm. For whatever reason ionusX seems to be on a personal vendetta against the concepts of accuracy and reading comprehension; pretty much all his threads are like this.

It is sad how Sony does not just take a idea or two from NIntendo but just straight up copies. Sony does not have much this year but lets look at 3 of them and out of 6 games 2 of them were at the Sony conference so they are really banking on them. Sony All Stars=clearly Nintendo rip-off LBP Karting- Clearly a Nintendo rip-off Wonderbook- Used with motion controls that are clearly a Nintendo rip-offCanYouDiglt

just like we can say froza is a rip off GT as well.. See how that works

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

:( blinx...man that was a good original character. Really the best one MS ever had he would have ownd...but M$

casharmy

it was super innovative really, but best observed in part 1, in 2 they kind of lost their way...but they shouldn't have ditched the franchise. I would have been a fan of this if it had been released for 360. The time mechanics had so much room for exploration and I loved the art and feel of the game...but this is another game MS doesn't have an interest in making.

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is sad how Sony does not just take a idea or two from NIntendo but just straight up copies. Sony does not have much this year but lets look at 3 of them and out of 6 games 2 of them were at the Sony conference so they are really banking on them. Sony All Stars=clearly Nintendo rip-off LBP Karting- Clearly a Nintendo rip-off Wonderbook- Used with motion controls that are clearly a Nintendo rip-offbloombergmoney

just like we can say froza is a rip off GT as well.. See how that works

Except that the student has become the master in that comparison.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is sad how Sony does not just take a idea or two from NIntendo but just straight up copies. Sony does not have much this year but lets look at 3 of them and out of 6 games 2 of them were at the Sony conference so they are really banking on them. Sony All Stars=clearly Nintendo rip-off LBP Karting- Clearly a Nintendo rip-off Wonderbook- Used with motion controls that are clearly a Nintendo rip-offdeangallop

just like we can say froza is a rip off GT as well.. See how that works

Except that the student has become the master in that comparison.

the student wouldnt be anything if it wasnt for the master..

bloombergmoney

And for that the former master's death will be quick and painless.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"]This forum is filled with idiots then the last 2. You guys do realize that MS could make a better and more diverse SSB type game than both Sony and Nintendo when they have rights to around 120 IPS alone, so what?Dr-Brilliant

lol, and MS COULD offer XBL for free like every other game company out, but they don't now do they?

In fantasyland alot of things could be, but in reality you have to deal with what actually is.

XBL is free. XBLG is not. but then Sony has people paying for coupons and not allowing people to keep their PS+ free games unlike MS so they are pretty much about even Mr. Souls fan sig. So again, all you did was show the fact that you had not realize if anybody has the resources to make a near perfect, diverse, balanced SSB clone it would indeed be Microsoft. but they are right, Sony is ripping off SSB for a reason. the only time any real Sony fan wanted anything like it on a SONY console was 2 gens ago. They did this for a reason, and MS see;s why and like them i think the plan is dumb, but unlike MS I have a different reason for not liking what Sony is doing, mostly because of the very high backfire rate.

1. LMAO at you mentioning XBL being free when you know damn well I am talking about playing online.

2. There is nothing even about a rip off service that requires you to pay online and an optional service like PSN+ that offers tons of discounts and free games for signing up.

3. I agree that Sony is ripping off SSB...and it could end up being good or bad...and what? They STILL have alot of other current and new IPs they are seriously investing into to make high quality game experiences for a variety of gamers.

That is the post that seems to escape all the bashers. All Stars doesn't look good to me after the E3 demonstration, but they didn't stop with just making a clone game (for who ever might want it) they still had exclusive high quality games that they invested into. So what is the gripe really about?

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Eh,I always thought the games were pretty meh but some of the mechanics were interesting at least.Dr-Brilliant

it was super innovative really, but best observed in part 1, in 2 they kind of lost their way...but they shouldn't have ditched the franchise. I would have been a fan of this if it had been released for 360. The time mechanics had so much room for exploration and I loved the art and feel of the game...but this is another game MS doesn't have an interest in making.

:? and that's a problem for MS? Lets just forget about he moeny MS take in from XBL subscribers alone every year.

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

lol, and MS COULD offer XBL for free like every other game company out, but they don't now do they?

In fantasyland alot of things could be, but in reality you have to deal with what actually is.

casharmy

XBL is free. XBLG is not. but then Sony has people paying for coupons and not allowing people to keep their PS+ free games unlike MS so they are pretty much about even Mr. Souls fan sig. So again, all you did was show the fact that you had not realize if anybody has the resources to make a near perfect, diverse, balanced SSB clone it would indeed be Microsoft. but they are right, Sony is ripping off SSB for a reason. the only time any real Sony fan wanted anything like it on a SONY console was 2 gens ago. They did this for a reason, and MS see;s why and like them i think the plan is dumb, but unlike MS I have a different reason for not liking what Sony is doing, mostly because of the very high backfire rate.

1. LMAO at you mentioning XBL being free when you know damn well I am talking about playing online.

2. There is nothing even about a rip off service that requires you to pay online and an optional service like PSN+ that offers tons of discounts and free games for signing up.

3. I agree that Sony is ripping off SSB...and it could end up being good or bad...and what? They STILL have alot of other current and new IPs they are seriously investing into to make high quality game experiences for a variety of gamers.

That is the post that seems to escape all the bashers. All Stars doesn't look good to me after the E3 demonstration, but they didn't stop with just making a clone game (for who ever might want it) they still had exclusive high quality games that they invested into. So what is the gripe really about?

[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

So you can unlock the Porsche in one play thru?

casharmy

so it's like FF where I have to grind doing the same thing over and over again before I make any progress?

Well, pretty much yeah.

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

it was super innovative really, but best observed in part 1, in 2 they kind of lost their way...but they shouldn't have ditched the franchise. I would have been a fan of this if it had been released for 360. The time mechanics had so much room for exploration and I loved the art and feel of the game...but this is another game MS doesn't have an interest in making.

casharmy

:? and that's a problem for MS? Lets just forget about he moeny MS take in from XBL subscribers alone every year.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] Those 2 are not comparable, it would be easy to take characters and shove them in one game, then actually using their small first party to make more games in each series individually.

XBL is free. XBLG is not. but then Sony has people paying for coupons and not allowing people to keep their PS+ free games unlike MS so they are pretty much about even Mr. Souls fan sig. So again, all you did was show the fact that you had not realize if anybody has the resources to make a near perfect, diverse, balanced SSB clone it would indeed be Microsoft. but they are right, Sony is ripping off SSB for a reason. the only time any real Sony fan wanted anything like it on a SONY console was 2 gens ago. They did this for a reason, and MS see;s why and like them i think the plan is dumb, but unlike MS I have a different reason for not liking what Sony is doing, mostly because of the very high backfire rate.Dr-Brilliant

1. LMAO at you mentioning XBL being free when you know damn well I am talking about playing online.

2. There is nothing even about a rip off service that requires you to pay online and an optional service like PSN+ that offers tons of discounts and free games for signing up.

3. I agree that Sony is ripping off SSB...and it could end up being good or bad...and what? They STILL have alot of other current and new IPs they are seriously investing into to make high quality game experiences for a variety of gamers.

That is the post that seems to escape all the bashers. All Stars doesn't look good to me after the E3 demonstration, but they didn't stop with just making a clone game (for who ever might want it) they still had exclusive high quality games that they invested into. So what is the gripe really about?

I am only going to address the first point because it's the first thing you said and even that is wrong.....

So...everything you get of of XBLG you get to keep? So, Do you get to keep playing your games (you've already bought) online after your XBLG subscription runs out?

FAIL. You absolutely don't.

you should have moved on to another point, There is no point in trying to debate or justify the XBL argument.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"] how is this news when sony seems intent on cloning every second franchise in existance using 1st parties..

so id like to say that sony's 1st parties cant make games.. only knock-offs

ionusX

you mad?

Thought I'd be able to make it through the first page without quoting someont, but what the f*ck is that all about? L4D clone? :lol:

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

1. LMAO at you mentioning XBL being free when you know damn well I am talking about playing online.

2. There is nothing even about a rip off service that requires you to pay online and an optional service like PSN+ that offers tons of discounts and free games for signing up.

3. I agree that Sony is ripping off SSB...and it could end up being good or bad...and what? They STILL have alot of other current and new IPs they are seriously investing into to make high quality game experiences for a variety of gamers.

That is the post that seems to escape all the bashers. All Stars doesn't look good to me after the E3 demonstration, but they didn't stop with just making a clone game (for who ever might want it) they still had exclusive high quality games that they invested into. So what is the gripe really about?

casharmy

I am only going to address the first point because it's the first thing you said and even that is wrong.....

So...everything you get of of XBLG you get to keep? So, Do you get to keep playing your games (you've already bought) online after your XBLG subscription runs out?

FAIL. You absolutely don't.

you should have moved on to another point, There is no point in trying to debate or justify the XBL argument.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] it's not that they have no interest, it has a high backfire factor. Bringing back Blix when Crackdown, Halo 3, Gears, Fable, Chromehound etc. were making tons of money would not have had any impact. Not to mention the failure of the second game adding more losses to the original Xbox. And doing it now would be................. Highly mixed, and hard to do in the first place since they would have to buy someone else to make it.Dr-Brilliant

:? and that's a problem for MS? Lets just forget about he moeny MS take in from XBL subscribers alone every year.

Do you work for MS?

MS smash bros? Don't be ridiculous. MS doesn't support anything other than HaloGearsForza._Cadbury_

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

:? and that's a problem for MS? Lets just forget about he moeny MS take in from XBL subscribers alone every year.

casharmy

Do you work for MS?

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] 2. XBLG is optional and everything you get off of it you get to KEEP and you are not paying for coupons=Both of them are even in scamage. 3. Sony is investing in a lot of sequels with some exceptions, and only investing i the companies that do well. Why did Starhawk failed? Sony said "Here take some left overs from Uncharted 3 and make teh game" oh well that's what we ended up getting. They really aren't investing as much as you think, although this depends on what you're comparing it to.Dr-Brilliant

I am only going to address the first point because it's the first thing you said and even that is wrong.....

So...everything you get of of XBLG you get to keep? So, Do you get to keep playing your games (you've already bought) online after your XBLG subscription runs out?

FAIL. You absolutely don't.

you should have moved on to another point, There is no point in trying to debate or justify the XBL argument.

lol, I am amused that you believe that.

PSN+, a service that does not affect me in any way shape or form if I don't subscribe to it, is the same as a service like BXLG that if I do not subscribe to... prevent's me from playing my games online thus restricting half the content of all my games--in your eyes = just as shady!!! haha You sir are golden. M$ really appreciates people like you.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] Yes, let's forget about the original XBOX. The XBOX strategy this years was make as many IPS as possible with what they had and also convincing third-party for exclusives as well. Which worked until 2010/ The XBOX strategy last gen? BUY AS MANY companies as possible, offer to pay for exclusives or make game go Cross with money if they do not accept, make as many IPS from an owned studio as possible because Quantity of games is more important. Notice how much the XBOX lost and how many IPS failed financially do to that stupid plan? MS building or buying 3 random companies just for an example, is very high risk.What if all 3 failed to achieve any sales goals? But where higher budget like Crack, Alan, Fable, Forza, etc? That would lose them millions right there. Why do you think Sony is only focusing on success and throwing a sequel plan out and giving the left overs to games like Starhawk and such? Which with more budget and time and SUPPORT AND ADVERTISING would have been better? Compared to the money that Sony lost with this plan, if Sony adopted the original XBOXes plan there would be no Playstation this gen.Dr-Brilliant

Do you work for MS?

Are you avoiding the simple point I made with my post?

I am a gamer, but like I said...maybe you work for MS and are not a gamer.

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

I am only going to address the first point because it's the first thing you said and even that is wrong.....

So...everything you get of of XBLG you get to keep? So, Do you get to keep playing your games (you've already bought) online after your XBLG subscription runs out?

FAIL. You absolutely don't.

you should have moved on to another point, There is no point in trying to debate or justify the XBL argument.

casharmy

lol, I am amused that you believe that.

PSN+, a service that does not affect me in any way shape or form if I don't subscribe to it, is the same as a service like BXLG that if I do not subscribe to... prevent's me from playing my games online thus restricting half the content of my all games--in your eyes = just as shady!!! haha You sir are golden. M$ really appreciates people like you.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"] how is this news when sony seems intent on cloning every second franchise in existance using 1st parties..

so id like to say that sony's 1st parties cant make games.. only knock-offs

ionusX

you mad?

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="Dr-Brilliant"] Keep playing and owning something are two different things you're spinning the argument. You still own the game, and when you get games off it, the games stay on your XBOX, and discounts are free XBLG or regular XBOX LIve, same discounts. In PSN+ You keep NOTHING AT ALL, and the only thing it has over XBLG is not locking MP on 99% of the games. yet it does everything else evenly just as bad. paying for coupons, not keeping free games, not keeping anything associated with it, and you have to keep paying and praying hoping that nothing is interrupted because you didn't play, where even XBLG, when your sub runs out you keep everything and you can continue playing that MP game until you sign off of it. The argument is not over XBLG is not shady, but the fact SONY is just as shady with PSN+ pretty much evenly.Dr-Brilliant

lol, I am amused that you believe that.

PSN+, a service that does not affect me in any way shape or form if I don't subscribe to it, is the same as a service like BXLG that if I do not subscribe to... prevent's me from playing my games online thus restricting half the content of my all games--in your eyes = just as shady!!! haha You sir are golden. M$ really appreciates people like you.

I could make a counter argument but buddy, you are such a soilder and have well thought out replies, I will just pay my respects to your efforts....

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

you mad?

senses_fail_06

so its now come full circle.. its not longer ripping off a multiplat better on other systems its not ripping off multiplats from its own system/last gen system.

real innovation here..

all i see from sony and its 1st party is an attempt at trying to hook everyone up with cocaiine during hyping in the hopes that you wont see the blandness behind it.

all i see is a familair controller, motion controls to try and stay competitive with far more successful motion control systems, a fugly casing and a tiny game box.

its like a fat kid coated in bling trying to kae up for his tiny c--k he barely ever sees by hoping you will stare somewhere else.

killzone is little more than a collection of everything wrong with fps's today. tired enemies, bland ai, regening HP, aim assist and black on brown visuals.

and im not even claling this a sony specific case tbh.. this whole gen for all systems is pretty losuy.. its like a race for cripples. even if you win your knee is still shattered.

Microsoft are too busy sucking **** to make new IP's, even the stale unoriginal clones SONY has pushed out this gen.

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="ionusX"] why would i be mad of a glamorized L4D clone with no token black guy to laugh at

ionusX

:lol:

You really have to do better than that man. :P

"We don't have the roster and nowhere near the imagination" is what I got:P

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="ionusX"] why would i be mad of a glamorized L4D clone with no token black guy to laugh at

ionusX

so its now come full circle.. its not longer ripping off a multiplat better on other systems its not ripping off multiplats from its own system/last gen system.

real innovation here..

all i see from sony and its 1st party is an attempt at trying to hook everyone up with cocaiine during hyping in the hopes that you wont see the blandness behind it.

all i see is a familair controller, motion controls to try and stay competitive with far more successful motion control systems, a fugly casing and a tiny game box.

its like a fat kid coated in bling trying to kae up for his tiny c--k he barely ever sees by hoping you will stare somewhere else.

killzone is little more than a collection of everything wrong with fps's today. tired enemies, bland ai, regening HP, aim assist and black on brown visuals.

and im not even claling this a sony specific case tbh.. this whole gen for all systems is pretty losuy.. its like a race for cripples. even if you win your knee is still shattered.

LMAO so they don't want clones but release the same three games every year? Microsoft are dumbasses. They don't do it because all the characters they could use are Master Chief and a Forza car.kuraimen

Baffled at some of the idiotic comments made by certain posters.istreakforfood

Elaborate or don't post at all.....

That snarky, arrogant attitude just makes you look more of an ass, than being a Lemming does.