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#1 bigsmackyo4
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http://xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20071004112437.html

Plagued by initial production issues, extremely high manufacturing costs and excessive retail price, PlayStation 3 from Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. is even less successful than heavily-criticized Nintendo GameCube. At least, in the first ten months of sales Nintendo GameCube was sold in larger quantities than Sony PS3.

According to data from NPD, based on the first ten months of availability, the troubled PlayStation 3 sold 22% less than the Nintendo GameCube for the same period, reports GamePro web-site. In the first ten months of availability about 2.12 million Nintendo GameCube were bought by end-users, whereas only 1.742 millionSony PlayStation 3 gaming machines were sold in from November '06 to September '07.

Nintendo GameCube was released in November 2001 and sold in 21.6million quantity worldwide,below sales of Microsoft Xbox, which reached 24 million,andfive times less compared to Sony PlayStation 2.

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Never heard of Xbitlabs before...
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#3 Chutebox
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old news, well, not really news. And they are just using US sells I'm assuming.
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#4 DAZZER7
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Even if it really is only selling about as much as the Gamecube, I find it very difficult to believe it will stay that way.
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#5 CossackNoodle
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yeah and the gamecube was 600 like the ps3
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#7 The_Crucible
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And the 360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide. So what?

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#8 laughingman42
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I think that that is a red flag for american developers when it comes to exclusives.

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#9 G10mgs4
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yeah and the gamecube was 600 like the ps3 CossackNoodle

exactly, gc was a 600 dollar system, and not a 200 one.

lets forget about that,

this holiday, ps3 at 399, sales will change

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#10 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="CossackNoodle"]yeah and the gamecube was 600 like the ps3 G10mgs4

exactly, gc was a 600 dollar system, and not a 200 one.

lets forget about that,

this holiday, ps3 at 399, sales will change

Not with the drop in price for the 360 they will not....I say this even thought I will be buying the PS3 but I expect it to end up third this gen.

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#11 tango90101
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ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

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#12 G10mgs4
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ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

tango90101

for a 600 system not bad at all. who knew 5 million peoplehad 600 bucks laying around.

for gc to be a 200 system was the worst thing ever. but if you look at world wide sales, then this thread is dead.

oh an rrod will hold the 360 back, no matter what price drop it has.

08 wil show the ps3 light. u guys are lucky the games got delayed, so lucky

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yeah and the gamecube was 600 like the ps3 CossackNoodle

Why does that mater, I find it funny how people defend Sony with this. It's sonys own damn fault they lose vision, this is a gaming market.

They should of known in the first place, it is there own damn fault it's expensive, with little in the way of real games right now. They are paying for it, and im glad they are.

They need a kick in the teeth, because this console is no ps1/ps2.

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The price of the system isn't an argument, people already know the PS3 is more expensive. The problem is that less product ownership = less sales of complimentary products (I.E. games) = less complimentary products produced for that product.
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#16 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

G10mgs4

for a 600 system not bad at all. who knew 5 million peoplehad 600 bucks laying around.

for gc to be a 200 system was the worst thing ever. but if you look at world wide sales, then this thread is dead.

oh an rrod will hold the 360 back, no matter what price drop it has.

08 wil show the ps3 light. u guys are lucky the games got delayed, so lucky

sony has YET to say they sold 5 million ps3...that's pure fanboy and sdf speculation...

it's funny you claim the rrod will keep people from buying it when the ps2 had waaaaay more consoles go bad and they still sold a TON... yet somehow it's different... :roll: could you be a bigger fanboy...?

first it was 06, then 07, now 08... don't confuse faith with fact...

that was sony's fatal flaw, too...;)

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And the 360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide. So what?

The_Crucible

The 360 is not competing against the PS2.

If you make the argument that the 360 is indeed in competition with that old machine, then you will have to admit that the PS3 is also competing with the PS2. If you do that you will have to acknowledge the fact that the PS3 is losing against both the 360 and the PS2 (and the Wii, to make matters even worse).

So what? Well, if things don't improve for Sony, the PS3 is in danger of being discontinued, silly Cow.

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#18 raynimrod
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Wow, so many clueless people in here.

[QUOTE="CossackNoodle"]yeah and the gamecube was 600 like the ps3 Innovazero2000

Why does that mater, I find it funny how people defend Sony with this. It's sonys own damn fault they lose vision, this is a gaming market.

They should of known in the first place, it is there own damn fault it's expensive, with little in the way of real games right now. They are paying for it, and im glad they are.

They need a kick in the teeth, because this console is no ps1/ps2.



Are you seriously this naive? You've completely gone off of the relevant statement which is the fact that a $200 console should still sell more units than a $600 console. The article is suggesting that the PS3 is in a WORSE position than the GC was in. Clearly, that isn't the case as the circumstances (for example the $400 price difference) are different. If you can't see that, you shouldn't be here.


[QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

And the 360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide. So what?
Pimpshigity21

The 360 is not competing against the PS2.

If you make the argument that the 360 is indeed in competition with that old machine, then you will have to admit that the PS3 is also competing with the PS2. If you do that you will have to acknowledge the fact that the PS3 is losing against both the 360 and the PS2 (and the Wii, to make matters even worse).

So what? Well, if things don't improve for Sony, the PS3 is in danger of being discontinued, silly Cow.



Gee you managed to figure that out all by yourself? Were you completely unable to comprehend The_Crucible's point? Perhaps if you actually "Read" the original post within the topic you will see that the PS3 is being compared to the GC. Now I'm not sure how familiar you are with video game systems, but FYI, the GC was LAST GEN. If the 360 isn't competing against the PS2 then clearly (debatable in your case) the PS3 is not competing against the GC. Just something for you to ponder before calling somebody a silly Cow.

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Brand Loyalty takes you a long way.
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#20 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

tango90101

for a 600 system not bad at all. who knew 5 million peoplehad 600 bucks laying around.

for gc to be a 200 system was the worst thing ever. but if you look at world wide sales, then this thread is dead.

oh an rrod will hold the 360 back, no matter what price drop it has.

08 wil show the ps3 light. u guys are lucky the games got delayed, so lucky

sony has YET to say they sold 5 million ps3...that's pure fanboy and sdf speculation...

it's funny you claim the rrod will keep people from buying it when the ps2 had waaaaay more consoles go bad and they still sold a TON... yet somehow it's different... :roll: could you be a bigger fanboy...?

first it was 06, then 07, now 08... don't confuse faith with fact...

that was sony's fatal flaw, too...;)



Oh and I can't forget you. There's no excuse for the 360's horrible hardware this generation. Funny how you don't let Cows hide behind the PS2 in their arguments, but you Lemmings are more than happy to hide behind it in a cowardly attempt to somehow justify the 360's awful shortcomings. The 360's rate of failure is far worse than anything that happened last gen and is totally unacceptable this generation. The console has to work in order to play games. Talk about fatal flaws.
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#21 Eponique
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old news, well, not really news. And they are just using US sells I'm assuming.Chutebox

It alsotracking below the Gamecube in Japan. But it has some feet in Europe, the Gamecube was pretty much non-existant there.

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#22 racastro65
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have the sales for north america and europe been released yet ?

thats what Im waiting for

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#23 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"]

ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

raynimrod

for a 600 system not bad at all. who knew 5 million peoplehad 600 bucks laying around.

for gc to be a 200 system was the worst thing ever. but if you look at world wide sales, then this thread is dead.

oh an rrod will hold the 360 back, no matter what price drop it has.

08 wil show the ps3 light. u guys are lucky the games got delayed, so lucky

sony has YET to say they sold 5 million ps3...that's pure fanboy and sdf speculation...

it's funny you claim the rrod will keep people from buying it when the ps2 had waaaaay more consoles go bad and they still sold a TON... yet somehow it's different... :roll: could you be a bigger fanboy...?

first it was 06, then 07, now 08... don't confuse faith with fact...

that was sony's fatal flaw, too...;)



Oh and I can't forget you. There's no excuse for the 360's horrible hardware this generation. Funny how you don't let Cows hide behind the PS2 in their arguments, but you Lemmings are more than happy to hide behind it in a cowardly attempt to somehow justify the 360's awful shortcomings. The 360's rate of failure is far worse than anything that happened last gen and is totally unacceptable this generation. The console has to work in order to play games. Talk about fatal flaws.

no excuse? how about the fact it's the FIRST tricore processor on the market using the newly designed gpu that was first to market......

it's a console of firsts... some flaws will be found... fortunately ms is takinj ownership for them, unlike sony did last gen...

the ps2 is living in a dead generation... but if you want to hype it, let's hype cell phones too, since they play games... and cellphones waaaaay outnumber ps2..

you have no data for the 360's failure rate, yet state your opinions like facts...

until ms is successfully sued (as sony was last gen), sony is STILL the shoddy hardware king...;)

why is it different now, btw? the ps2 broke as soon as you looked at it and still came in #1 last gen...

tell me; why is it different for the 360?

i've had a 360 since launch and haven't noticed any "shortcomings" yet...

maybe if you owned one, instead of just pretending to know about it, you'd realize this...

and people wonder why we don't take ps3 fanboys seriously...:roll:

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#24 omgimba
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Gamcube sold quite well in its first 10 months..
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#25 Exeed_Orbit
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Why does every thread turn into a ps3 vs. Xbox 360 thread, no matter WHAT the original topic is? Jezus. Anyway, back to the original topic. I assumed the ps3 would be selling this bad its first year because of that butt-ugly price tag. But with a lower price point just around the corner, I guess I do see a teeny tiny light at the end of the tunnel for now. Come '08, hopefully Sony's game library will get beefed up a little thus boosting their sales. Plus, didn't the GC also sell better than the ps2 at launch?
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#26 Number_1_Gamer
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Please stop using the price excuse. I don't care if the PS3 costs $6,000. It is Sony's fault that it costs what it costs. People point out that there will be more price drops, but the GCN had price drops too. It started out at $200, and by the time the Wii launched, it was only $80. That's a 60% price drop right there.

The PS3 is selling very poorly. I don't care if it's selling well "for a $600 system". It's still selling poorly. Third parties don't care if it's selling well "for a $600 system". It's not like they're able to sell their games for $150 instead of $50 just because the system is three times the cost.

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#27 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"] [QUOTE="The_Crucible"]

And the 360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide. So what?
raynimrod

The 360 is not competing against the PS2.

If you make the argument that the 360 is indeed in competition with that old machine, then you will have to admit that the PS3 is also competing with the PS2. If you do that you will have to acknowledge the fact that the PS3 is losing against both the 360 and the PS2 (and the Wii, to make matters even worse).

So what? Well, if things don't improve for Sony, the PS3 is in danger of being discontinued, silly Cow.



Gee you managed to figure that out all by yourself?

Gee, another Cow blinded by the PS3's failures.

Were you completely unable to comprehend The_Crucible's point? Perhaps if you actually "Read" the original post within the topic you will see that the PS3 is being compared to the GC.raynimrod

I understood quite well. You Cows apparently are having some problems connecting the dots.

Original post compares the PS3 to the GC...Cow gets mad and thinks, "if those evil meanies are going to trash the PS3, I'll trash the the 360...**Cow connects dots **...irate Cow thinks "360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide, yeah that will teach them"...angry Cow does not stop to think that the PS3 sells WAY worse than the PS2 worldwide...angry Cow owns self...another angry Cow runs to the defence of original angry Cow...both Cows are owned.

Now I'm not sure how familiar you are with video game systems, but FYI, the GC was LAST GEN.raynimrod

LMFAO

Thanks for the laugh, silly Cow.

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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

G10mgs4

for a 600 system not bad at all. who knew 5 million peoplehad 600 bucks laying around.

for gc to be a 200 system was the worst thing ever. but if you look at world wide sales, then this thread is dead.

oh an rrod will hold the 360 back, no matter what price drop it has.

08 wil show the ps3 light. u guys are lucky the games got delayed, so lucky

Why are 360 fans so lucky. Because everyone worships Sony and will never look at other brands, even if those other brands are bringing a fresh approach to video-gaming, taking online seriously and getting many many developers to make the games they love on the new system.

Take your head out of the clouds mate. You really think all the casuals that bought a PS2 are holding on for a PS3 to come down in price and get good games. Casuals my friend are the LEAST loyal to brand name, a simple reality of commercialism! Why would they sit there and wait for the PS3 when there is a console that shows next gen graphics just as good and better graphics on many mulit-platforms games, has many good games not on the PS3, is considerably cheaper and is highly regarded when it comes to playing online. Casuals will see all the advertising, see its growing popularity and eventually jump in! lol

I would say you are lucky that the 360 had reliability issues!!!

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But this was the Mighty PS3 the destroyer of all. what a total fizzle. :lol:
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Casuals my friend are the LEAST loyal to brand name, a simple reality of commercialism! Why would they sit there and wait for the PS3 when there is a console that shows next gen graphics just as good and better graphics on many mulit-platforms games, has many good games not on the PS3, is considerably cheaper and is highly regarded when it comes to playing online. Casuals will see all the advertising, see its growing popularity and eventually jump in! lol

DAZZER7

Or casuals will see all the hype and buy the King of the casual consoles.

Out of the 11+ million Wii user base, I wonder how many were PS2 owners.

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#32 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

Casuals my friend are the LEAST loyal to brand name, a simple reality of commercialism! Why would they sit there and wait for the PS3 when there is a console that shows next gen graphics just as good and better graphics on many mulit-platforms games, has many good games not on the PS3, is considerably cheaper and is highly regarded when it comes to playing online. Casuals will see all the advertising, see its growing popularity and eventually jump in! lol

Pimpshigity21

Or casuals will see all the hype and buy the King of the casual consoles.

Out of the 11+ million Wii user base, I wonder how many were PS2 owners.

shouldn't be much. Ps2> wii.

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#33 ninjiijitsuu
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And the 360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide. So what?

The_Crucible
The ps2 sales were never terrible.
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#34 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="tango90101"]

ouch... i didn't know the ps3 was selling THAT bad...

that's gotta hurt....:(

ff7isnumbaone

damn you must not be thinking porperly lol. it cost $600. Do lemmings use their heads?

LOL. It does indeed cost $600...did the executives at Sony use their heads? What were they thinking?:lol:

Better yet, didn't Cows use their heads before shelling out $600 for a console without games? You either have to be a big time fanboy or a BR movie buff to do something as crazy as that. :?

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#35 wiljas
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When the Gamecube first launched it actually sold pretty well. It was it's staying power that droped off after a little over a year or two. So comparing the PS3 with the Gamecube at this point is not an insult.
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#36 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]
Oh and I can't forget you. There's no excuse for the 360's horrible hardware this generation. Funny how you don't let Cows hide behind the PS2 in their arguments, but you Lemmings are more than happy to hide behind it in a cowardly attempt to somehow justify the 360's awful shortcomings. The 360's rate of failure is far worse than anything that happened last gen and is totally unacceptable this generation. The console has to work in order to play games. Talk about fatal flaws.
tango90101


no excuse? how about the fact it's the FIRST tricore processor on the market using the newly designed gpu that was first to market......

it's a console of firsts... some flaws will be found... fortunately ms is takinj ownership for them, unlike sony did last gen...

the ps2 is living in a dead generation... but if you want to hype it, let's hype cell phones too, since they play games... and cellphones waaaaay outnumber ps2..

you have no data for the 360's failure rate, yet state your opinions like facts...

until ms is successfully sued (as sony was last gen), sony is STILL the shoddy hardware king...

why is it different now, btw? the ps2 broke as soon as you looked at it and still came in #1 last gen...

tell me; why is it different for the 360?

i've had a 360 since launch and haven't noticed any "shortcomings" yet...

maybe if you owned one, instead of just pretending to know about it, you'd realize this...

and people wonder why we don't take ps3 fanboys seriously...



Yes, NO excuse. Stop making the excuse that because a console in the previous gen had "some" hardware issues that it somehow became acceptable for the 360. I don't care if it is a console of firsts, that's no excuse so stop making them. The 360 hardware failure rate has affected a larger percentage of owners compared to the PS2 problems. My launch PS2 still works, my 360 had the RROD after about 7 months. Trust me, I'm definitely NOT the only one. Oh and stop making the excuse about Sony being sued. MS would have been sued but they gave out an extended warrenty. Sorry but that's not a fix for a shoddy system, not a fix at all. The 360 is the shoddy hardware king.

The PS2 broke as soon as you looked at it? Although I know you're not being literal, you're still being unbelievably foolish and naive. Random disc read errors don't destroy the system. RROD does, go figure.

Also, I own a 360 and know about it. Try again.

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#37 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]
Gee you managed to figure that out all by yourself?
Pimpshigity21

Gee, another Cow blinded by the PS3's failures.



I'm no Cow and I'm blinded by your failure.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Were you completely unable to comprehend The_Crucible's point? Perhaps if you actually "Read" the original post within the topic you will see that the PS3 is being compared to the GC.
Pimpshigity21

I understood quite well. You Cows apparently are having some problems connecting the dots.

Original post compares the PS3 to the GC...Cow gets mad and thinks, "if those evil meanies are going to trash the PS3, I'll trash the the 360...**Cow connects dots **...irate Cow thinks "360 sells worse than PS2 worldwide, yeah that will teach them"...angry Cow does not stop to think that the PS3 sells WAY worse than the PS2 worldwide...angry Cow owns self...another angry Cow runs to the defence of original angry Cow...both Cows are owned.



Clearly you didn't understand at all. He wasn't trashing the 360, he simply made the point (which again you fail to realise) that the topic is irrelevant. You sir, did not connect the dots. Also if you could actually make an effort to make sense in your posts it would be much appreciated. Oh and yet again I'd like to remind you that I'm no Cow - fail again.

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

Now I'm not sure how familiar you are with video game systems, but FYI, the GC was LAST GEN.
Pimpshigity21

LMFAO

Thanks for the laugh, silly Cow.



Good to see you laughed at a joke that was aimed at you. Oh and again I'm no Cow lol - you fail too many times. Next time to try to offer a rebuttal, you might like to actually offer the rebuttal.