Must see!Killzone ShadowFall-3vids,3different ways to attack

Slow and boring with very nicely detailed graphics, This game is sorely missing the relentless, aggressive, action-movie like feel of a BF4 or COD. This feels like next gen graphics with methodical gameplay. Not exciting at all. Neither BF4 nor CoD look better than this, but both seem far more fun to play. Hence why both will curb stomp this in sales.

.. Not sure how this is something to make a big deal about.. This just looks like Crysis 2's design rather than something like Deus Ex Human Revolution which really did feel like there were meaningful play styles that actually made a difference.

It's really sad when you have to create an alt and agree with yourself. Sony marketer plz go. And pretty sure mods abandoned this place, seeing how people like you aren't banned.

Yep, it truely is:) I cant find one FPS that is even close to as impressive as Shadowfall is!

Cant wait for Shadowfall! Soon enough the wait will be over my friend!

We are getting closer and closer to PS4 national day. Already have my PS4 pre-ordered and paid off for.Now to play that waiting game lol!

Hey, what is your PSN? Would you be game for some Shafowfall MP on launch:)

Do you think im praising the gameplay from Ryse? or do you not know the context of "this" when i posted in this KZ thread

lol all the deleted posts, and I bet all were lems or haters. :lol:

Yet you are excitied for the scripted linear QTE fest Ryse lol

You xbot shills are just delusional.

No one here takes your "opinions" seriously

And no matter how much you try to shill on, the very fact you CLICKED into a thread about Killzone says it all. Killzone is always on your mind. Even you xbot shills would rather talk about Killzone then talk about the pathetic Ryse!

You xbot shills would rather talk about Playstation games then talk about generic xbone games. Playstation ALWAYS WINNING in the minds of xbots. While Sony/Playstation winning the hearts of real gamers

I was reading a thread on neogaf "Kilzone Shadowfall MP sniper gameplay"

I read a couple posts from some deluded neogaf xbot shills, and it got me thinking.

They say Halo:CE was a "revolutionary" launch title

But the fact is there were better FPS like Golden Eye and the original Perfect Dark.

Halo: CE was being over hyped to hell and back just because it was the only notable game on the xbox

In all actuality, Halo: CE played like garbage. It was a noob casual FPS with auto-aim up the ass

We can thank the downfall of shooters on Halo because Halo started the whole dumbing down phase of shooters

Halo: CE and every Halo since have been some of the most insanely over rated pieces of casual garbage ever.

IF Halo:CE is considered a "revolutionary" launch game or FPS

THEN,

Without question, Killzone Shadowfall sure as hell is a revolutionary everything. Revolutionary launch game and FPS!

Ex: Killzone Shadowfall is taking much bigger leaps over FPS today, then Halo was over the FPS of that time.

As already said, there were many FPS better then Halo like Golden Eye, Half Life, and PD etc

Where as there is not one FPS better then Killzone Shadowfall right now

Also, Killzone Shadowfall is introducing sandbox combat, huge levels, multiple routes, multiple options of attack and play styles, objectives you can tackle in any order, desructable environments that allow you to create your own paths through walls etc

Guerilla Games is doing a lot of innovatitve things with the FPS gameplay in Killzone Shadowfall

WHAT did Halo:CE do or introduce? The regenerating health trend that has killed gaming!?

Kizone Shafowfall>>>>>>>any and all 35 Halo games of past and present

P.S its funny how the xbot shills on neogaf cant even see that they are making people there hate microsoft/xbox even more (the same goes for xbot shills here) and thats on top of all the deserved hate the xbox/microsoft deserves due to Microsoft always fucking up and the xbone being an over-priced, under-powered, anti-consumer piece of shit. You can add xbots and xbot shills to the long list of reasons of why the xbox brand should just die off already

Looks fun, although a fairly standard shooter. The destruction if done right throughout could be a cool thing. The graphics are very pretty, and the city gives me a Halo vibe (the design of the buildings etc), very nice looking.

@j2zon2591:

I believe I watched most KZSF vids. I LOVE pretty games and FPS (campaigns).

I can't remember much verticality with Crysis 1 except that stage with a huge crater/ditch after you meet the first *spoiler***** "those stronger enemies" for the 1st time. But I guess yeah, you can climb almost every sniper posts in C1 and there were some houses w/ 2nd floors.

Crysis 2 had more vert afaik, and KZSF presentations feels more similar to that.

I love Crysis campaigns. 1 and Warhead had the best non vestigial vehicles and world items (cooking pan weapon!), load outs (actual inventory) in the series (I'm not really sure but I felt I carried more weapons in C1 than 2 and 3), 2 and 3 introduced weapon and suit upgrades for the campaign encouraging re-plays.

I love shooting down humans, humanoids and aliens. It was fun when aliens tried to come at you inside buildings and they don't just stay on ground, they jump around floors to reach you. Tranquing C1's Korean's was pretty funny.

3 had pretty good on the fly customizations for weapon and nano-suit module sets.

Stealth assassinations and ledge grabs definitely stroke me "Ah Crysis (2/3)" When I watched the whole Sony Presscon months back. Though i guess it was more FC3 with the Knife throwing)

KZSF visual presentation is closer to the approach of Crysis than the last gen iterations w/ a higher color palette and higher contrast and realistic approach (the hands are kinda huge (OCD?) w/c I found weird in prev. games [cartoony but not relaly] [see KZ3 poly vs KZSF poly model pic that looks like sniper LOD comparisons]).

The fact that plenty of the environment shown are somewhat modern bldg. interiors remind me of the Crysis 2/3 settings.. and that realistic organic stage too (forest, water, etc. unlike "alien organic forest" in KZ3)

Cutscenes in KZSF seem to have moved significantly more to 1st person like/closer to Crysis than KZ2/3

The Higgs guarding or securing pass throughs (w/e, like Airport thing) vaguely reminded me of the quarantine segments of C2 with civilians.

Optional objectives (does KZSF have this?)and "tackle different ways" is closer to Crysis series than KZ 1 and 2.

Planting bombs on walls on KZSF reminds me of having fun with the cheap houses in C1 and blowing them up similarly.

Scanning plus "shown UI" giving enemy details/class -realtime too, vaguely reminds me of Crysis 2/3.

Shielding and scanning somewhat reminds me of the nanosuit too except the OWL is an awesome mobile version (it can stun, heal and shoot.. afaicanremember the blue sparks that the nanosuit can emit is only during power drops or w/e that was called).. I wish they'd make the "defib" in Crysis actual in game mechanic (the nsuit does this on C2 but afaik it was a cutscene)

Vent/perimeter crawling reminds me of Crysis series too. Can't really remember doing it in KZ 2 and 3.

KZSF looks to me closer to 3 than 1 because the way KZSF has presented itself to me is as Cinematic FPS with Sandbox elements having modern-futuristic-realistic elements/aesthetics.. Crysis 1 was more sandbox to me than 2/3 (the animals were just weird and the water traversal was more than 2/3).. I reserve my final judgement on how "sand-boxish" KZSF until I try and finish that game (I will but not soon.. IDK what device to get for holidays [phone, tablet, console, gpu, laptop, etc.. I can only get 1].. but my gut tells me it won't be as sand-box as C1.

Sure Crysis wasn't the 1st game to do those stuff in games but to me it was "a package" of the mentioned mechanics/antics that created its own personality.

IMHO, KZSF looked overall as a modified "Crysis Series Template" but in KZ universe.

Again, this isn't a knock against KZSF. I really love this approach!

Oh and I haven't played past Halo:CE but I am sure I will love all of its campaign when I get the chance to.

(Weird, I feel like Halo:CE was sandbox-ish, I remember huge areas and getting lost several times when I played the campaign with my dad)

*sigh*

Slow-mo door breakdowns (totally not generic) and shitty AI is what passes for stealth these days?

Man, the genre must be spinning in its grave right now.

The A.I. is on easy.

So?

Still doesn't excuse how brain dead it is... I mean, that AI doesn't even try to present you with any form of challenge. And these days, there are no major differences in AI behavior quality over difficulty settings, the challenge comes from better enemy precision, and less health for the player, so pardon me if I'm not being overly optimistic.

I'm not an expert on marketing, but I definitely wouldn't try to sell my product with something like this.

Huh? I'm playing Battlefield 4 on my PC lately and I'm sorry but KZ Shadow Fall looks clunky in comparison. The frame rate has so much stutter and the shadow quality is very poor. Even the textures and overall lighting and shading are better in Battlefield 4.

So unless BF4 on PS4 looks far worse than the PC version I don't see how you can claim nothing comes close to KZSF.

Lame killzone the gameplay looks rubbish.

Using your logic cows are all desperate for Ryse and they back it up with a petition that has 10,000 signatures and counting. If you want to talk strictly about Killzone then there's a Playstation sub forum dedicated to that. It really isn't that hard hun

Creating alts to agree with yourself is lame.

I agree. I absolutely agree!

This game is so bland, cows stop hyping up this game. Wish Sony will stop forcing GG from making killzone. The franchise is dead, time to move on to another project.

Quite an accurate description of Killzone, if I may say so! :)

Borezone sophisticated thanks for the laugh.

Best launch title by far.

Im getting a PS4 on launch day, but the more I see of this game the more generic it looks. I am buying KZ because it almost like I have to because I am getting PS4. Dont get me wrong the visuals look amazing for a console FPS game, but I dont really know if its bringing anything new to the table. I will play it and see.

On a side note, just because someone does not think this game looks amazing does not mean they are dumb or think Ryse looks amazing. It is possible to be a Playstation fan and not like Killzone. Ive owned every Sony console and portable and have never liked a killzone. I am hoping I like this one.

I see now.

"It doenst look fun" or "that game looks more fun" is the new xbot shill arguement.

Fun is a bunch of subjective bull that cant be proven, quanitified or measured.

The fact is Killzone Shadowfall has sick graphics. It is far and away the best looking launch game. Also the FPS gameplay in Shadowfall is vey innovatitive(already detailed and explained)

Lastly, like i already told another xbot.Go watch the scripted linear repetitive shoot bang fests of Gears/Halo/Call of Duty/ BattleField etc IF you want more "excitiment'

Killzone Shadowfall is a more sophisticated shooter. It isnt for douch-bro ADD addicted xbot "gamers" like you

In fact i doubt youve ever even played an xbox game before. You just shill and shill on forums for Microsoft instead

For people who dont know,

Shawn30 was banned on neogaf for being outed as a Microsoft shill. You can look it up. Thats huge! Hes a confirmed xbot shill. Disregard all his opinions.

Hell, I wouldnt be suprised if Nameless_One, Newhopes, Scipio8, XxR3m1xInHDn3D, ChubbyGuy40 are all xbot shills.. they all are certainly very delusional..

Man, this second page is full of xbot shills and insecure PC trolls who feel threatened trying to hate on this beastly game

Like i said...

The very fact you all CLICKED into a thread about Killzone says it all. Killzone is always on your mind. Even you xbot shills would rather talk about Killzone then talk about the pathetic Ryse!

You xbot shills would rather talk about Playstation games then talk about generic xbone games. Playstation ALWAYS WINNING in the minds of xbots. While Sony/Playstation winning the hearts of real gamers

I hope this flops like The Last of Us

That's right, Ryse sucks, it's an established fact, and even the most hardcore lemmings would admit it.

But... this average at best shooter where the only appeal are pretty visuals is getting way too much hype... and for the good of us all, it needs to be brought down to earth.

Welcome to 1999.

You cant really compare Dues Ex HR to Shadowfall. Both are such different games with different goals in mind.

But lets be real. Dues Ex HR only had 2 playstyles. Gunplay and stealth. Considering that, they SHOULDVE been meaningful play styles lol

But yet the gunplay was lackluster and the stealth was dumbed down

Hell, the stealth takedowns were completely automated. It literally played itself..

There was literally NO challenge to the stealth in Dues Ex HR.

"Stealth" in Dues EX HR just consisted of sitting behind corners for long periods of time with your thumb in your ass waiting for brain dead guards to either turn their backs or walk away.

You could throw items to distract one guard but the enemey lay out made that infuriating because there would be another brain dead guard around the next corridor that you would have to wait even longer for etc.

I could understand that way of playing if guards were actually challenging...or if you could switch it up with different tactics...but guards were just dumb. Never required you to think much. And literally 100% of the "stealth" in Dues EX HR just came down to trial and error/waiting to exploit dumb A.I

It payed off better to just shoot everything in sight in Dues Ex HR and the gunplay was shit so it just became another generic shooter.

Killzone has much much better gunplay IF you want to compare.

Both Dues EX HR and Shadowfall have dumbed down stealth but at least Shadowfall isnt pretending to be a stealth game like Dues Ex HR was. Dues EX HR is MUCH worse for that. In Shadowfall its just another thing to do and it is what it is.

Also, for Killzone to be open and dynamic as a PURE FPS, thats something special

Dues EX HR was more an open world "RPG" and it did neither of those things great so you get the drift.

Dont compare them but if you want to..then ok then...Shadowfall>>>>Dues EX HR all day everyday

Great! I'll be playing it in less than 2 weeks.

Game looks good to me, haven't enjoyed any FPS since Killzone 2. Hopefully this game will change that and provide a good challenge on its harder difficulties. Love sci-fi.

Yeah, just beacuse people dont worship all things PC or Microsoft the way you do they are Sony marketers.

People who are legit excitied for Killzone because it looks awesome are all just Sony marketers too. Teh conspiracy! Your head isnt right.

As for me, I always speak the truth. The playsation is better, thats why i prefer it. Sony has BEEN supporting gamers and HAS NEVER flip flopped like Microsoft Thats why i will always support Sony over Microsoft. Playstation exclusives are much better, thats why i much prefer Playstation exclusives etc.

The fact is the xbone is a joke in ever single way in comparison to the PS4. If you are a REAL gamer why wouuld you NOT care about all of the vast advanatges the PS4 has over the xbone or prefer the PS4/OR prefer the fact playstation exclusives release far more often at much more variety, and according to critics and majority of fans - when playstation exclusives are of a much higher level of quality (hence the comment playstation exclusives are much better etc)

You even say you'd rather play the scripted QTE Ryse. Yeah, you wont be able to play that game because it isnt a game lol. Its a QTE interactive movie done bad!

You arent a real gamer, you are a Playstation hating, basement dwelling troll who wouldnt be given the time of day in the real world.

You live through the internet trying to downplay ever Playstation advantage and or downplay anything Playstation that looks awesome. You are a miserable waste of space. The same is the case with Nameless One/Newhopes.

What you and your fellow xbot trolls/insecure PC trolls do WILL NEVER work you hear me. Get lost and beat it, all of yous!

Watch him ignore that and continue to spin spin and spin. I wouldnt waist my time with Nameless One. Hes a known troll. I have him on ignore.

WOAAAAUUUWWW, something that has never been done before! umgggggg.

I laugh everytime someone mentions Killzone. The series is absolute trash man.

Ignore... I see, that's why you keep replying... keep ignoring me, Sony shill, you're most certainly doing a good job at it! ;)

And if you go a few posts above, you'll see I already replied to his post...

Halo 1 was hailed as a revolutionary FPS and IT WAS DOING NOTHING that hadnt already been done before

If Halo 1 was revolutionary then ShadowFall is 100% revolutionary!

Your impartiality is staggering....

Amen my brother!

Watch out though, you didnt get on your knees and praise PC gaming

Insecure PC trolls are raging as we speak!

Its amazing how insecure PC elitests are. The fact that they feel so threatened by another game they go out of their way to downplay that game at every turn (Shadowfall)

PC fans are like scorned little women. I swear. There has to be some metal illness going on for someone to be such a PC elitest or xbot

The truth isnt fair. I only speak truth. If a one sided picture is painted then thats because thats how it is

Let me guess, you have to be an xbot judging by your irrate response. Take your head out of the sand. Ryse is garbage.

An Xbot? Hardly.

I can't tell if you honestly believe this stuff or if you're just atrocious at trolling.

In the case of the latter, you're trying too hard....

Its a shame you already such negative pre-conceived notions of the game. You can be playing it and your mind will be performing mental gymnastics. "Well, that was cool and I liked that. Hey im actually enjoying this new Killzone game. Its awesome.....bu buuu oh wait, I remember now, I always say I hate Killzone on forums to spite. I have to hate it now because it was also 'hyped' too much in my eyes. I have to look for excuses to hate on it, so I can continue trolling on forums" etc

Dont do that. Do you ever do that with xbox or PC games?

If you are going to buy Killzone, buy it. Who cares what anybody says. Go in with a blank slate. Give Shadowfall a fair shake as its own stand alone title. Reserve judgment until then. Can you be rational enough to do that?

You know, forget all the system wars BS. I have a feeling that deep down inside you are very impressed with the new overhauled gameplay of Shadowfall. Theres no way any real gamer couldnt be (still assuming you are not a troll like others have stated)

Look, if you were being serious with that post, remember what ive told you, and if you ever get the game then I hope you enjoy it. I know I will! Cheers

My "notions" are based on all the gameplay footage we've seen so far, also, I don't hate the game (or the rest of the KZ series), I just find it overrated.

Here, I only pointed out the glaring flaws I saw in the trailers in the OP... isn't the point of your thread to share and discuss opinions regarding the posted material, or have you expected only positive feedback?

And no, as of now, I don't have any plans to purchase the PS4, or give this game a try (buying a console over a single game isn't what I'd call a good investment)... the only thing I see which received a notable overhaul are the visuals. Every aspect of the gameplay seems average, and as I stated, the only thing I find remotely interesting is the environmental destruction, though I get the feeling it'll end up underutilized.

Just... No.

Tell me what is so revolutionary about ShadowFall, tell me. And I don't care about Halo if you'll use that as an argument...

The game looks great, and will be the first PS4 game I grab but it's going to have to be played on hard mode. It looks waaayyyy too damn easy! I'm really liking the open world element, such a good thing to have in a shooter, should help with replayability a bit.

I just re-read this post, and it really is a ridiculous post.

It boils down to this:

"Wha wha wha it bothers me that so many real gamers are excitied for Killzone so im going to hate on it, which is an infinitely worse thing to do"

And who are you anyway, the hype police? Who the hell are you to say what deserves hype and what doesnt?

I feel ShadowFall is very under rated and under hyped. ShadowFall is factually the most technically impressive looking launch game by miles. The gameplay is amazing - muliple routes to take, multiple ways to attack, objectives can be tackled in any order, destructable envirnonments which can open up new paths etc

ShadowFall is looking soo damn AMAZING on every front. It deserves so much much more hype. I mean for a scripted linear QTE riddled Ryse to be getting more hype, that IS what is criminal.

But opinions, we all got them. The point is YOU need to understand that. For you to percieve that Killzone is getting over hyped then hate on it for that, thats such a delusional thought process too.

I better NOT see you ever getting excitied for a game because im going to respond to you with what you just said in that post, and apply your own standards of "overhyping" on you