MW2 Controversial Level

What IW is doing is extreme, yes. But what it's doing is putting the player in the enemies shoes. Only when you see it through that perspective do you feel more determined to end such injustices. Waatching a movie about won't have that affect.

Basically people crave realism in games. The love the realism of the gun sounds, the way a person looks when they get shot and die, the explosions and all. So why are people so unconfortable with this part of the game? They can take the realism of the act of killing but can't take the realism being part of a bad act?

I love Infinity Ward. :oops:

anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.fatzebra

It is a video game, don't see the problem.

No it's just a video game. If I let video games really affect me, I would have hatred for plumbers and love for turtles.

Well luckily I'm not buying Modern Warfare 1.1 (going to get some bashes for that) but I don't see how it is any different than killing people in GTA.

Well luckily I'm not buying Modern Warfare 1.1 (going to get some bashes for that) but I don't see how it is any different than killing people in GTA.

Ross_the_Boss6

I've made an oath to not pull the trigger, except at the end of the mission when I will need too lol-RocBoys9489-

anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.fatzebra

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.Truth-slayer

Not it any way, I actually found it absolutley hillarious. Pew pew pew.... Gotcha....

The thing is IW wants you to feel angry at the terrorist and what better way to show it then to play as one of them. If anybody actually enjoys this segment of the game then he/she has a sick mind.

anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.fatzebra

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]In terms of disturbance: real violence>>>simulated violence ALWAYSTruth-slayer

At the end of the day, its just a video game, its not like we're going to kill actual civilians.

[QUOTE="Truth-slayer"][QUOTE="fatzebra"]anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.Zero_epyon

i must have missed the memo....

whats this controversy all about?

The thing is IW wants you to feel angry at the terrorist and what better way to show it then to play as one of them. If anybody actually enjoys this segment of the game then he/she has a sick mind.

klusps

i must have missed the memo....

whats this controversy all about?

ogvampire

i must have missed the memo....

whats this controversy all about?

ogvampire

It is a video game, don't see the problem.

spinecaton

anyone who is disturbed better also be disturbed about every single WW2 game and Vietnam etc. Else you're an huge massive hypocrite.fatzebra

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

i must have missed the memo....

whats this controversy all about?

AAllxxjjnn

ahhhh. thanks.....

hm... i kill civilians in GTA4 all the time. i dont see a problem...

In terms of disturbance: real violence>>>simulated violence ALWAYSSpiritOfFire117

[QUOTE="Ross_the_Boss6"]

Well luckily I'm not buying Modern Warfare 1.1 (going to get some bashes for that) but I don't see how it is any different than killing people in GTA.

fudgeblood

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"]In terms of disturbance: real violence>>>simulated violence ALWAYStoast_burner

Yes I think the level is disturbing but I believe that is the purpose of the level. Obviously, you will not be playing as them the entire game so it's probably just a beginning set piece for the story. It introduces the villians in a way Infinity Ward knew the players would hate and it's not meant for someone to enjoy. Unlike GTA, Modern Warfare 2 makes it where you really hate the people killing the innocent civilians and although I think the media will stur a lot of controversy, I think this kind of thing is done in movies all the time

To a degree. I don't have a problem with the level in theory (in fact I love the idea of showing a conflict from the extremist's point of view), but it's an issue of execution (no pun intended). In order to pull off a level like this successfully, the developer needs a deft touch -- they need to express the extremist's mindset in such a way that it humanizes them (rather than just being evil for the sake of evil) without making light of the gravity of the scene.

Problem is I can't think of a single developer that has demonstrated the ability to walk that fine line (yes, that includes BioWare, Obsidian, Kojima, Silicon Knights, CD Projekt etc.), least of all IW. I'm sure (somewhat anyway, this is Activision after all) their intentions are good, but I can't imagine IW pulling this one off in a tasteful way.

No I think it's awesome.

In the realm of fiction there's a difference between glorifying terrible deeds, and showing them for thematic effect. It seems like Infinity Ward is doing the latter, thus I'm okay with it. Oh, and it's a video game.

I myself was a bit disturbed by the video. I know people will say "Oh, it's a video game, not real!", but wow. The way the civilians reacted to the terrorists (or you, the player, I should say) is very realistic and the graphics themselves are excellent, it's uncomfortably similar to genuine manslaughter of hundreds of innocent civilians. I don't know how that benefits story at all, I don't see why IW couldn't have put you in the shoes of a civilian instead, and watched as terrorists killed you and hundreds of others, including perhaps your family and friends. It would have been much more powerful and would have triggered a real emotional response, but doing it in MW2 for pure entertainment? That's creepy.enterawesome

Glad someone made a poll... Now we can put the cry babies that keep spamming about this to bed.

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]I myself was a bit disturbed by the video. I know people will say "Oh, it's a video game, not real!", but wow. The way the civilians reacted to the terrorists (or you, the player, I should say) is very realistic and the graphics themselves are excellent, it's uncomfortably similar to genuine manslaughter of hundreds of innocent civilians. I don't know how that benefits story at all, I don't see why IW couldn't have put you in the shoes of a civilian instead, and watched as terrorists killed you and hundreds of others, including perhaps your family and friends. It would have been much more powerful and would have triggered a real emotional response, but doing it in MW2 for pure entertainment? That's creepy.bobbetybob

so if we kill any civilians in level two does that mean came over

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="enterawesome"]I myself was a bit disturbed by the video. I know people will say "Oh, it's a video game, not real!", but wow. The way the civilians reacted to the terrorists (or you, the player, I should say) is very realistic and the graphics themselves are excellent, it's uncomfortably similar to genuine manslaughter of hundreds of innocent civilians. I don't know how that benefits story at all, I don't see why IW couldn't have put you in the shoes of a civilian instead, and watched as terrorists killed you and hundreds of others, including perhaps your family and friends. It would have been much more powerful and would have triggered a real emotional response, but doing it in MW2 for pure entertainment? That's creepy.enterawesome

Oh yes I'm so disturbed, absolutely traumatized! It took me ten minutes to type this out, my fingers tremble so. God knows how I'll get the mouse button upon "Submit" and how oh how will I be able to click??

[QUOTE="enterawesome"]I myself was a bit disturbed by the video. I know people will say "Oh, it's a video game, not real!", but wow. The way the civilians reacted to the terrorists (or you, the player, I should say) is very realistic and the graphics themselves are excellent, it's uncomfortably similar to genuine manslaughter of hundreds of innocent civilians. I don't know how that benefits story at all, I don't see why IW couldn't have put you in the shoes of a civilian instead, and watched as terrorists killed you and hundreds of others, including perhaps your family and friends. It would have been much more powerful and would have triggered a real emotional response, but doing it in MW2 for pure entertainment? That's creepy.bobbetybob

Oh yes I'm so disturbed, absolutely traumatized! It took me ten minutes to type this out, my fingers tremble so. God knows how I'll get the mouse button upon "Submit" and how oh how will I be able to click??

mr-krinkles