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MW2 beating GTA 4? This i would disagree with. It has a legit shot at Halo 3 ofcourse. Halo 3 was exclusive, MW2 is on 3 platforms. jg4xchampread my link. GTA iv did only 3.6 million in 1 day. MW2 will do 4.6 million and beat any motion picture, book, food or video game in terms of revenue.
Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that.Deathlessness?
Is that you? Anyway, how about we wait and see how MW2 actually sells. Because right now you're speculating.
Well, it's not even that YOU'RE speculating, you're depending on an analyst.
Danm_999
How many hermits are buying Modern Warfare 2? I didn't buy the first one and after playing it, I'm not tempted to buy the second.
how the hell can they get up to 3.2 mil pre-orders?
but they won't beat GTA 4 if it was not M-rated...
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that. It could be the Pope predicting it for all I care, it's speculation. Neither you or they can claim what MW2 will sell. Wait until it's out to start making statements.Deathlessness?
Is that you? Anyway, how about we wait and see how MW2 actually sells. Because right now you're speculating.
Well, it's not even that YOU'RE speculating, you're depending on an analyst.
StarGalaxyTHE
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that.Deathlessness?
Is that you? Anyway, how about we wait and see how MW2 actually sells. Because right now you're speculating.
Well, it's not even that YOU'RE speculating, you're depending on an analyst.
StarGalaxyTHE
Why don't you read it? :| It's all guess work. It *might* happen. It *might* not. Why you drag Halo into it i don't know, the article certainly didn't. When MW2 goes exclusive and outsells it, then compare.
[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that. It could be the Pope predicting it for all I care, it's speculation. Neither you or they can claim what MW2 will sell. Wait until it's out to start making statements. no. you can't make claims, but the pro's who are in this can, they know a lot more than you so you just can't say anything. they will be very close to thisDeathlessness?
Is that you? Anyway, how about we wait and see how MW2 actually sells. Because right now you're speculating.
Well, it's not even that YOU'RE speculating, you're depending on an analyst.
Danm_999
Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that.[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]
Deathlessness?
Is that you? Anyway, how about we wait and see how MW2 actually sells. Because right now you're speculating.
Well, it's not even that YOU'RE speculating, you're depending on an analyst.
CreepyBacon
Why don't you read it? :| It's all guess work. It *might* happen. It *might* not. Why you drag Halo into it i don't know, the article certainly didn't. When MW2 goes exclusive and outsells it, then compare.
even if it *doesn't* happen, it will be close, and that means that it will still be the biggest entertainment release ever, it will beat halo 3 very easilyno. you can't make claims, but the pro's who are in this can, they know a lot more than you so you just can't say anything. they will be very close to thisStarGalaxyTHE
Actually, I'm not making any claims. You don't seem to be grasping that.
I don't know whether MW2 will do worse, as well, or better than these predictions, because it's in the future.
You don't much more than me either. You have no idea exactly who these 'pros' are, their methodology, their sponsorship, their preconceptions, yet you've taken their prediction as a foregone conclusion.
[QUOTE="CreepyBacon"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Read the link, it comes from gamasutra, a respected site when it comes to this. modern warfare will sell8 million in 7 days, no game has done that.StarGalaxyTHE
Why don't you read it? :| It's all guess work. It *might* happen. It *might* not. Why you drag Halo into it i don't know, the article certainly didn't. When MW2 goes exclusive and outsells it, then compare.
even if it *doesn't* happen, it will be close, and that means that it will still be the biggest entertainment release ever, it will beat halo 3 very easily Now you're making claims the analysts haven't, predicting what variables will do to the situation. What gives you that ability?[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] no. you can't make claims, but the pro's who are in this can, they know a lot more than you so you just can't say anything. they will be very close to thisDanm_999
Actually, I'm not making any claims. You don't seem to be grasping that.
I don't know whether MW2 will do worse, as well, or better than these predictions, because it's in the future.
You don't much more than me either. You have no idea exactly who these 'pros' are, their methodology, their sponsorship, their preconceptions, yet you've taken their prediction as a foregone conclusion.
you don't even know what an analysit is[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] no. you can't make claims, but the pro's who are in this can, they know a lot more than you so you just can't say anything. they will be very close to thisStarGalaxyTHE
Actually, I'm not making any claims. You don't seem to be grasping that.
I don't know whether MW2 will do worse, as well, or better than these predictions, because it's in the future.
You don't much more than me either. You have no idea exactly who these 'pros' are, their methodology, their sponsorship, their preconceptions, yet you've taken their prediction as a foregone conclusion.
you don't even know what an analysit is Actually, I'm guessing that's more true of you than me. In case you hadn't noticed, global economics events over the past 12 months have proved how flawed analysts can be.In case you hadn't noticed, global economics events over the past 12 months have proved how flawed analysts can be.Danm_999The fact that most sales prediction are almost always wrong help, too.
sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.StarGalaxyTHE
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.StarGalaxyTHEYes, and in a lot of cases they overhype, too. Conclusion? Making prediction at this point is useless, because the only way to know what will happen is waiting.
[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.Danm_999
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.IronBassYes, and in a lot of cases they overhype, too. Conclusion? Making prediction at this point is useless, because the only way to know what will happen is waiting. No, it is not. activision themselves said Warfare 2 was breaking already pre-order records, so in this game's case, its not.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.StarGalaxyTHE
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...You don't have to be stupid to be wrong.
You're not getting it. You have no idea how much it's going to sell, the analysts don't, you're GUESSING.
So to say it's "still the king" is an incredibly stupid statement.
No, it is not. activision themselves said Warfare 2 was breaking already pre-order records, so in this game's case, its not.StarGalaxyTHEJust like Too Human's preorders? Like Killzone 2's? History has proven how useless preorders are for predicting the total sales.
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
Danm_999
You don't have to be stupid to be wrong.
You're not getting it. You have no idea how much it's going to sell, the analysts don't, you're GUESSING.
So to say it's "still the king" is an incredibly stupid statement.
It's not just GUESSES, it's in depth good and well thought guesses. you'll se you're wrong when it will be released in november and break all sorts of sales record, including the multiplatform GTA IV'sWhy don't you see it beating gta iv? it is multiplatform, has more hype and is way more anticipated. also it's a shooter.While I don't see MW2 beating GTA 4's opening week, I do see it easily beating Halo 3's, I mean come on Halo is an exclusive games VS MW2 being on 3 systems, but hey if any game was going to beat GTA4's opening week it would be MW2 imo.
St_muscat
[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]No, it is not. activision themselves said Warfare 2 was breaking already pre-order records, so in this game's case, its not.IronBassJust like Too Human's preorders? Like Killzone 2's? History has proven how useless preorders are for predicting the total sales. rofl. WTF does killzone 2 have to do with this? It didn't sell well enough to be compared. hell, MW2's pre-orders > killzone 2's sales thus far if the analyst is correct or close...
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...StarGalaxyTHE
You don't have to be stupid to be wrong.
You're not getting it. You have no idea how much it's going to sell, the analysts don't, you're GUESSING.
So to say it's "still the king" is an incredibly stupid statement.
It's not just GUESSES, it's in depth good and well thought guesses.But still guesses.
you'll se you're wrong when it will be released in november and break all sorts of sales record, including the multiplatform GTA IV'sStarGalaxyTHE
You're still not getting it. It's quite pathetic really.
I'm not saying the analyst is wrong, I don't know whether they're right or wrong.
I'm saying you're wrong for treating his word as fact that's already occured.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]sometimes, analysts can be underrated. they underrated GTA IV launch day and week sales and revenue, gta was released, they got owned. if they do it, too, in this case, MW 2 may maybe sell close to 9 million or even 10 in a week, making it far more proserpous than any game.StarGalaxyTHE
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...Analysts are thatstupid.
rofl. WTF does killzone 2 have to do with this? It didn't sell well enough to be compared. hell, MW2's pre-orders > killzone 2's sales thus far if the analyst is correct or close...StarGalaxyTHEYou didn't get my point. My point is that devs (like MS or Guerrilla, and in this case IW) tend to overhype their games with high numbers of preorders. But a lot of times (like with Too Human and Killzone 2), those preorder are not an indication of the total sales (a lot of times they are simply not true).
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
Technoweirdo
Analysts are that stupid.
No, they are not. some are. the more pros (gamsutra) are unluckily not.....[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]rofl. WTF does killzone 2 have to do with this? It didn't sell well enough to be compared. hell, MW2's pre-orders > killzone 2's sales thus far if the analyst is correct or close...IronBassYou didn't get my point. My point is that devs (like MS or Guerrilla, and in this case IW) tend to overhype their games with high numbers of preorders. But a lot of times (like with Too Human and Killzone 2), those preorder are not an indication of the total sales (a lot of times they are simply not true). lol, this is just a spin from your side. where do you have proof for Infinity ward falsly hyping up their sales by telling that there are millions of pre-orders, but they are lying? that's an absurd thing.
lol, this is just a spin from your side. where do you have proof for Infinity ward falsly hyping up their sales by telling that there are millions of pre-orders, but they are lying? that's an absurd thing.StarGalaxyTHEI didn't say they are lying. I said that other devs have done it before. So when a dev mentions preorders, they hardly prove anything.
[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]lol, this is just a spin from your side. where do you have proof for Infinity ward falsly hyping up their sales by telling that there are millions of pre-orders, but they are lying? that's an absurd thing.IronBassI didn't say they are lying. I said that other devs have done it before. So when a dev mentions preorders, they hardly prove anything. execept for the game being highly anticipated, which Modern warfare 2 truthfully is.
[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"]lol, this is just a spin from your side. where do you have proof for Infinity ward falsly hyping up their sales by telling that there are millions of pre-orders, but they are lying? that's an absurd thing.StarGalaxyTHEI didn't say they are lying. I said that other devs have done it before. So when a dev mentions preorders, they hardly prove anything. execept for the game being highly anticipated, which Modern warfare 2 truthfully is. How are you gauging that MW2 is highly anticipated?
[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...StarGalaxyTHE
Analysts are that stupid.
No, they are not. some are. the more pros (gamasutra) are luckily not.....Care enough to actually checkbothlinks?
&g
it was just an EXAMPLE. even if MW2 underperforms, it won't underperform by very much, analysts aren't that stupid. let's say that MW2 does worse than expected, it is still 6 - 7 million in 1 week, so it is still the king...[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]
How do you or they know it won't sell less? How do you know analysts aren't overestimating in this case?
Pointing to Grand Theft Auto exceeding expectations is not evidence of how MW2 will perform.
Technoweirdo
t;Analysts are thatstupid.
I second this... analysts are only correct 1/10 times
I don't care if it sells amazing. the fact is the game looks the same old crap,, good story, rehash multiplayer with rehash weapons, and rehash skins etc.Cod sucks now. There's nothing good about it! ODST will probably also sell well but MAG looks better the modern warfare 2 and so does Battlefield 2. Gamers should just rent it, Cod's just overated with lots of rehashes from sequals.
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