MW2 to become biggest entertainment launch, to beat GTA, sell 8M in 1 week

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#51 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"] No, I'm not saying MW2 is not anticipated. I asked you how you gauged how much people want it. You've quantified that MW2 is going to be more anticipated than other titles, I really hope you aren't just using what you've seen on gaming forums to make that call.

tell me 1 game on any platform this year that is more anticipated and will have more 1st day and 1st week sales than modern warfare 1

Why aren't you answering my question? :/ What leads you to believe that MW2 is more highly anticipated than any other title? You've already established it's pre-orders must be true because it's popular, but you haven't given a reason as to why you think its so popular.

Well, you failed to answer my question.
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#52 santoron
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MW2 is gonna sell like hot cakes, that's for sure. All the shooter fans will end up picking it up and sooner rather than later. Frankly, a 60 dollar map pack shouldn't end up being rewarded so handsomely, but hey: life's not fair...
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#53 immortality20
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In terms of revenue it will make more than a movie or a book, because they are what, a quater the price of a video game? New movie MAYBE 30 dollars, new book if hard cover around there, but MW2 will sell at 69.99. It might have the same budget for a movie, but its selling for a lot more.

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#54 fourseamer4
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I'm for sure getting it! Count me in!

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#55 xbox360isgr8t
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8 million in a week. not gonna happen
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#56 StarGalaxyTHE
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8 million in a week. not gonna happenxbox360isgr8t
we'll see, well see........ :P
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#57 xbox360isgr8t
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[QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]8 million in a week. not gonna happenStarGalaxyTHE
we'll see, well see........ :P

if it does we know that the majority will be on the 360.
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#58 MasteRich
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I love how you say "only sold". GTA is the best selling game of all time, and fastest. What you are staying is just speculation. You also said analysts underrated the GTA 4 launch. Give me proof. Who was really surprised about the performace of GTA4? No one. You are just speculating. These are predictions, not facts. Analysts also told business owners not to panic and not to lower prices because of the recession.
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#59 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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I wouldn't be surprised after how well CoD4 did.
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#60 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="xbox360isgr8t"]8 million in a week. not gonna happenxbox360isgr8t
we'll see, well see........ :P

if it does we know that the majority will be on the 360.

Obvioslu, then PS3/PC then WII
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These analysts are basically saying it's going to be like Halo 3 on 3 different platforms, which I don't really buy. The Halo series always has these monster launches because it has a massive hardcore fanbase, which I don't really see in COD. It will sell a ton over time, but I don't think the launch is going to be as massive as expected (although it could still break records considering it's on 3 platforms).

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#62 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

Analysts are that stupid.

Technoweirdo

No, they are not. some are. the more pros (gamasutra) are luckily not.....

Care enough to actually checkbothlinks?

To clarify Tech's point, both links also come from GamaSutra. Both links also contain analysis statements, both from reputed firms (The Yankee Group and Merril Lynch, no less)...and both are terribly mistaken.

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#63 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] No, they are not. some are. the more pros (gamasutra) are luckily not.....HuusAsking

Care enough to actually check both links?

To clarify Tech's point, both links also come from GamaSutra. Both links also contain analysis statements, both from reputed firms (The Yankee Group and Merril Lynch, no less)...and both are terribly mistaken.

This thread is set up for future embarrassment, humiliation and ownage to any of the Modern Warfare 2 doubters. :P
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[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] tell me 1 game on any platform this year that is more anticipated and will have more 1st day and 1st week sales than modern warfare 1StarGalaxyTHE
Why aren't you answering my question? :/ What leads you to believe that MW2 is more highly anticipated than any other title? You've already established it's pre-orders must be true because it's popular, but you haven't given a reason as to why you think its so popular.

Well, you failed to answer my question.

I'll answer with another question. How many times does a sequel outsell its predecessor? Answer: very rarely, and the sequel must be truly revolutionary in terms of both gameplay and content to make it happen. A Modern Warfare sequel lacks the room to maneuver to make those kinds of revolutions (they have to stay within the realms of modern reality, after all).

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#65 ReaperV7
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8 million in one week? lol good luck with that...
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#66 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="Technoweirdo"]

Care enough to actually check both links?

StarGalaxyTHE

To clarify Tech's point, both links also come from GamaSutra. Both links also contain analysis statements, both from reputed firms (The Yankee Group and Merril Lynch, no less)...and both are terribly mistaken.

This thread is set up for future embarrassment, humiliation and ownage to any of the Modern Warfare 2 doubters. :P

That's true of one side, at any rate. And considering analysts's batting rate lately, especially in the realm of video games, odds favor the house (us).

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wow this thread is entertaining. resume

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#68 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="Danm_999"] Why aren't you answering my question? :/ What leads you to believe that MW2 is more highly anticipated than any other title? You've already established it's pre-orders must be true because it's popular, but you haven't given a reason as to why you think its so popular.HuusAsking

Well, you failed to answer my question.

I'll answer with another question. How many times does a sequel outsell its predecessor? Answer: very rarely, and the sequel must be truly revolutionary in terms of both gameplay and content to make it happen. A Modern Warfare sequel lacks the room to maneuver to make those kinds of revolutions (they have to stay within the realms of modern reality, after all). Sure GTA4's one-day sales are terrific and among the tops of this generation,but compare the sales long-term (that's the important one) to the GTA3 trilogy (fact: GTA3 sold around 7.5 million, Vice City 9 million, and San Andreas around 12 million; in comparison, GTA4 just cracked the 7 million mark).

Actually, San Andreas should be around 23 million now......... and why should we compare MW2 to GTA3 again?????? Halo 2 outsold CE, H3 outsold Halo 2. Gears 2 outsold Gears 1 KZ2 outsold KZ 1 MW 2 will outsell MW easily. it's logical and fact buddy :P
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] Well, you failed to answer my question.StarGalaxyTHE

I'll answer with another question. How many times does a sequel outsell its predecessor? Answer: very rarely, and the sequel must be truly revolutionary in terms of both gameplay and content to make it happen. A Modern Warfare sequel lacks the room to maneuver to make those kinds of revolutions (they have to stay within the realms of modern reality, after all). Sure GTA4's one-day sales are terrific and among the tops of this generation,but compare the sales long-term (that's the important one) to the GTA3 trilogy (fact: GTA3 sold around 7.5 million, Vice City 9 million, and San Andreas around 12 million; in comparison, GTA4 just cracked the 7 million mark).

Actually, San Andreas should be around 23 million now......... and why should we compare MW2 to GTA3 again?????? Halo 2 outsold CE, H3 outsold Halo 2. Gears 2 outsold Gears 1 KZ2 outsold KZ 1 MW 2 will outsell MW easily. it's logical and fact buddy :P

My numbers were stale. Point is, GTA4 is selling great, but if you really want great numbers, look at the one before it. MW's numbers are comparable to GTA4, but you have to remember they got those numbers before a recession hit us. Gaming sales tend to take a dip in a recession as people hunker down and stick to what they already have.

Killzone 2 outselling KZ1 isn't saying much--the original was mediocre. But AFAIK, Gears of War 2 is comparable but not better than its predecessor--5.5mil each. And each of those games you listed had media blitzes and everything, not to mention being highly anticipated. Thing is, will Activision step up to the plate and try to defy the recession?

Better yet, let's see if more than one analyst gets the same picture.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]MW2 beating GTA 4? This i would disagree with. It has a legit shot at Halo 3 ofcourse. Halo 3 was exclusive, MW2 is on 3 platforms. StarGalaxyTHE
read my link. GTA iv did only 3.6 million in 1 day. MW2 will do 4.6 million and beat any motion picture, book, food or video game in terms of revenue.

Why are you saying "will" as in you can predict the future?
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#71 mixmax5
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I don't doubt this happening. CoD MW has a crazy following.

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#72 HuusAsking
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I don't doubt this happening. CoD MW has a crazy following.

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But as crazy as Halo or even GTA4? Crazy enough to attract new gamers?
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#73 StarGalaxyTHE
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[QUOTE="mixmax5"]

I don't doubt this happening. CoD MW has a crazy following.

HuusAsking
But as crazy as Halo or even GTA4? Crazy enough to attract new gamers?

CoD > GTA > Halo > WoW in attracting new gamers and opening week/days sales record /hype.
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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"] I'll answer with another question. How many times does a sequel outsell its predecessor? Answer: very rarely, and the sequel must be truly revolutionary in terms of both gameplay and content to make it happen. A Modern Warfare sequel lacks the room to maneuver to make those kinds of revolutions (they have to stay within the realms of modern reality, after all). Sure GTA4's one-day sales are terrific and among the tops of this generation,but compare the sales long-term (that's the important one) to the GTA3 trilogy (fact: GTA3 sold around 7.5 million, Vice City 9 million, and San Andreas around 12 million; in comparison, GTA4 just cracked the 7 million mark).

HuusAsking

Actually, San Andreas should be around 23 million now......... and why should we compare MW2 to GTA3 again?????? Halo 2 outsold CE, H3 outsold Halo 2. Gears 2 outsold Gears 1 KZ2 outsold KZ 1 MW 2 will outsell MW easily. it's logical and fact buddy :P

My numbers were stale. Point is, GTA4 is selling great, but if you really want great numbers, look at the one before it. MW's numbers are comparable to GTA4, but you have to remember they got those numbers before a recession hit us. Gaming sales tend to take a dip in a recession as people hunker down and stick to what they already have.

Killzone 2 outselling KZ1 isn't saying much--the original was mediocre. But AFAIK, Gears of War 2 is comparable but not better than its predecessor--5.5mil each. And each of those games you listed had media blitzes and everything, not to mention being highly anticipated. Thing is, will Activision step up to the plate and try to defy the recession?

Better yet, let's see if more than one analyst gets the same picture.

Want to know why GTA4 didn't outsell SA? because PS2 = 150M units, PS3 + 360 = barely 50 million :P
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Like I said a while ago, the name itself can sell millions. How many millions? I dont know we still have 5 months to see the result...everything right now is just speculation.

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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="mixmax5"]

I don't doubt this happening. CoD MW has a crazy following.

StarGalaxyTHE

But as crazy as Halo or even GTA4? Crazy enough to attract new gamers?

CoD > GTA > Halo > WoW in attracting new gamers and opening week/days sales record /hype.

Okay...why? I expect a detailed and referenced reason for why CoD is more attractive to new gamers. Failure to do so will bring obvious consequences. As for reasons why not, I'll give a few.

  • Call of Duty and its new spinoff Modern Warfare, while a general good seller, doesn't usually get filled with media hype. The original MW, while among the top of the heap, doesn't leave a lot of room to improve.
  • The reason for this lack of room is that it was released this generation, unlike GTA4 and Halo 3, both of which are sequels from last generation. Sequels within a generation tend to be viewed a bit dimly; Gear of War 2 is the best-selling member of this club, and it's only managed to match, not truly surpass, its predecessor.
  • Also, as mentioned Halo and GTA went back to last gen; so do their fan followings. Call of Duty's fan following isn't at strong, and MW's only picked up speed this generation.
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#77 kozzy1234
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Wont be buying this.

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#78 Rob-Belmont
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It certainly feels like it's turning out to be, my brother came home today and had got given a free MW2 poster from GAME.
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Halo 3 did it on one platform
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These analysts are basically saying it's going to be like Halo 3 on 3 different platforms, which I don't really buy. The Halo series always has these monster launches because it has a massive hardcore fanbase, which I don't really see in COD. It will sell a ton over time, but I don't think the launch is going to be as massive as expected (although it could still break records considering it's on 3 platforms).

Gamer556

That's true.

Of course it's a mulitplat FPS game and it's very good so I expect good sales.

I'm not sure but was Halo 3 mentioned in the article?

However what I'm interested in is the sales record it will have on the Xbox360.

*will it beat day one records set by Halo3 on the Xbox360.

*what percentage of total sales are attributed by the Xbox360 and it's installed userbase.

*where did perform the best sales wise Xbox360 vs PC?

*how many consoles will it move?

* more interestingly what will the previews and reviews are going to be like.

my money is it will not beat GTA4.

What's the level of anticipation and pre-orders compared to GTA4?

What about the level of FPS competition that will be around near its launch schedule?

GTA 4 didn't have that many "sandbox" games to compete with and has a longer history.

I guess I'll eat my words if MW2 does beat GTA4, but this is a pretty interesting titanic comparrison and challenge to GTA4s performance.

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#81 g0ddyX
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Modern warfare 2 will break records.

You either jump in and join or hide.

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#82 ras2009
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Choo choo! All aboard the Overhype Train!IronBass
Choo Chooooooo!
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ITT: TC can tell the future. Hurry! Ask him how the world will end while he's still here.

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[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But as crazy as Halo or even GTA4? Crazy enough to attract new gamers?HuusAsking

CoD > GTA > Halo > WoW in attracting new gamers and opening week/days sales record /hype.

Okay...why? I expect a detailed and referenced reason for why CoD is more attractive to new gamers. Failure to do so will bring obvious consequences. As for reasons why not, I'll give a few.

Call of Duty and its new spinoff Modern Warfare, while a general good seller, doesn't usually get filled with media hype. The original MW, while among the top of the heap, doesn't leave a lot of room to improve.The reason for this lack of room is that it was released this generation, unlike GTA4 and Halo 3, both of which are sequels from last generation. Sequels within a generation tend to be viewed a bit dimly; Gear of War 2 is the best-selling member of this club, and it's only managed to match, not truly surpass, its predecessor.Also, as mentioned Halo and GTA went back to last gen; so do their fan followings. Call of Duty's fan following isn't at strong, and MW's only picked up speed this generation.

CoD fanbase >>>>> Halo fanbase. Halo had its days from 1 - 3. I guarantee Halo 4 or ODST won't sell as well.......
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you thought gta iv / halo 3 was big? .StarGalaxyTHE
Comparing multiplatform launch vs exclusive launch = fail
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#86 Sully28
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How many hermits are buying Modern Warfare 2? I didn't buy the first one and after playing it, I'm not tempted to buy the second.

FrozenLiquid

Same here, i got first for PC and got it for PS3 as a gift, both were terrible compared to the rest of the games in the franchise. The singleplayer was good for 1 run through and was a great time, but the multiplayer was disgusting compared to COD1 or 2. I will not be buying MW2.

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i hope this rehash flops harder then a first or second party sony game in a sales thread
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#88 JLF1
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Who cares?

It's not like it's going to help the quality of the game.

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#89 surrealnumber5
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Who cares?

It's not like it's going to help the quality of the game.

JLF1
but if the past is at all a good projection, good sales will hurt the quality of future COD games
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#90 EXLINK
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Highly doubt it. While Modern Warfare is a pretty common name amongst gamers; games like Halo and GTA are much more familiar for gamers AND casuals thus producing larger sales. Modern Warfare 2's launch will be large but I doubt it would be at the magnitude of GTA or Halo.
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So did you use a time machine, a delorean, or a crystal ball? Fill it out on the scantron given to you.
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="StarGalaxyTHE"] CoD > GTA > Halo > WoW in attracting new gamers and opening week/days sales record /hype.StarGalaxyTHE

Okay...why? I expect a detailed and referenced reason for why CoD is more attractive to new gamers. Failure to do so will bring obvious consequences. As for reasons why not, I'll give a few.

Call of Duty and its new spinoff Modern Warfare, while a general good seller, doesn't usually get filled with media hype. The original MW, while among the top of the heap, doesn't leave a lot of room to improve.The reason for this lack of room is that it was released this generation, unlike GTA4 and Halo 3, both of which are sequels from last generation. Sequels within a generation tend to be viewed a bit dimly; Gear of War 2 is the best-selling member of this club, and it's only managed to match, not truly surpass, its predecessor.Also, as mentioned Halo and GTA went back to last gen; so do their fan followings. Call of Duty's fan following isn't at strong, and MW's only picked up speed this generation.

CoD fanbase >>>>> Halo fanbase. Halo had its days from 1 - 3. I guarantee Halo 4 or ODST won't sell as well.......

But the CoD fanbase isn't as hardcore of a following, not as if they track every single CoD news item from day to day. Plus that doesn't answer the stigma of a sequel within a generation. From all the games I've studied in the past two to three generations, only the original MW achieved the feat, and only because it was a radical jump from the WW2-based CoD3. MW2 won't have that same luxury. In every other instance, I can't find a case.