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#1 icygangsta
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Okay guys, so before booting this baby up with the huuuuge patch - I was expecting a Huge COD styled frag-fest. Boy was I wrong.

So I get in, and I pick what I've been told the most underpopulated "faction" S.V.E.R. which are the nitty gritty, bottom line soldiers and as soon as I make my character I'm thrown into a sort of pre-lobby with someone welcoming me to the faction and a whole host of options and what not to my disposal as far as immersion goes I was already immersed.

So I go and deploy, and go into the match and as soon as I get in theres someone assigned with a leader role and I was surprised by how many people had headsets by the way.

The guy was literally shouting out commands on his headset

"We need someone on the heavy machine gun on the top...who will take that position"

- I will..I'll do that..(some guy)

"Okay, and make sure you don't do this and that...etc"

"WE GOTTA DEFEND THE BUNKER GUYS, STAY CLOSE, YOU SEE THOSE 2 PEOPLE GOING REALLY FAR AWAY THAT'S NOT COOL! - STAY NEARBY SO I CAN HEAL YOU"

"Can someone heal the building down there?"

"Their spawning behind us be careful"

and what not, I was new, and ofcourse a noob and I told the guy straight up.

He was like okay man, just stay close to the bunker he dropped down the controls for me and the basics and stayed near me so I had extra support and what not.

As far as the first hour goes, I was REALLY IMPRESSED. I didn't think any beta could be as good as U2 :p I stand corrected.

Anyone else in the beta? Care to share some tips, how and what you think?

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#2 Vaasman
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I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

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#3 DeadMagazines
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I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

Vaasman
lol don't hate, they aren't used to actually having to communicate in their games. much less having others to communicate with..:lol:
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#4 icygangsta
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I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

Vaasman

If you say so.

Voice chat is kinda necessary in MAG, anywho.

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#5 _SWAG_
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i played the mag beta and i want zipper to give us a new socom instead. downloading the beta was no problem but the update was horrendous i spent the whole day downloading that update and when it finally got done i couldnt even play because u can only play at a certain time wtf. when i got in a game i was on that turret thing and getting so many kills it felt so cheap i ranked up pretty fast. killzone2 is still the best exclusive shooter on the ps3

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#6 icygangsta
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i played the mag beta and i want zipper to give us a new socom instead. downloading the beta was no problem but the update was horrendous i spent the whole day downloading that update and when it finally got done i couldnt even play because u can only play at a certain time wtf. when i got in a game i was on that turret thing and getting so many kills it felt so cheap i ranked up pretty fast. killzone2 is still the best exclusive shooter on the ps3

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Yeah, but they have their reasons for two times for the servers to be open.

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#7 CJL13
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You're under the NDA buddy, I suggest you delete this.

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#8 Merek16
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i got passed the 2.6 GB update, i need to try this game!

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Okay guys, so before booting this baby up with the huuuuge patch - I was expecting a Huge COD styled frag-fest. Boy was I wrong.

So I get in, and I pick what I've been told the most underpopulated "faction" S.V.E.R. which are the nitty gritty, bottom line soldiers and as soon as I make my character I'm thrown into a sort of pre-lobby with someone welcoming me to the faction and a whole host of options and what not to my disposal as far as immersion goes I was already immersed.

So I go and deploy, and go into the match and as soon as I get in theres someone assigned with a leader role and I was surprised by how many people had headsets by the way.

The guy was literally shouting out commands on his headset

"We need someone on the heavy machine gun on the top...who will take that position"

- I will..I'll do that..(some guy)

"Okay, and make sure you don't do this and that...etc"

"WE GOTTA DEFEND THE BUNKER GUYS, STAY CLOSE, YOU SEE THOSE 2 PEOPLE GOING REALLY FAR AWAY THAT'S NOT COOL! - STAY NEARBY SO I CAN HEAL YOU"

"Can someone heal the building down there?"

"Their spawning behind us be careful"

and what not, I was new, and ofcourse a noob and I told the guy straight up.

He was like okay man, just stay close to the bunker he dropped down the controls for me and the basics and stayed near me so I had extra support and what not.

As far as the first hour goes, I was REALLY IMPRESSED. I didn't think any beta could be as good as U2 :p I stand corrected.

Anyone else in the beta? Care to share some tips, how and what you think?

icygangsta

Win post is win

Also, NDA sorry.

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#10 tbolt76
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While in the beta, I would think most of the players will have headsets. Not so much in the real world. That is one of my main concerns with this game. After the retail release, will there be such teamwork or will it deteriorate into a frag fest, much like COD and BF and the countless other FPS.

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I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

Vaasman

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

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#12 James161324
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i like the idea. but 128 people on each side.

and probley 60 yelling and cussing. is just to much.

i am not going to say it sucks. but i haven't played it.

but i don't see it being a great game

and then of course your going to have atleast 50 people on each team running around like idiots

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

nVidiaGaMer

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

Because higher player count makes the game better.

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#14 W1NGMAN-
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I've been down on this game for quite sometime but after seeing some of these gameplay vids on youtube....I'm pretty impressed. It looks fun so I can't wait till it comes out.

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#15 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

nVidiaGaMer

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

Because as we all know, quantity > quality. This is why Planetside is the best game ever made (and that only took half a second to come up with).

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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

treedoor

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

Because higher player count makes the game better.

Higher player counts mean larger maps and less spawn killing. Small maps with lots of people = craziness. So yeah in this case more players = better game and a fresh experience from the old 32 or less player thing in COD, Crysis, etc. COD4 had 64 (from what I recall and it was great).

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#17 icygangsta
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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

Vaasman

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

Because as we all know, quantity > quality. This is why Planetside is the best game ever made (and that only took half a second to come up with).

Okay nice analogy. That also means that the game is crap though? I thought not. Don't single out a game just because its quantity is high for all you know the quantitive ratio co-inciding with the quality ratio could be high.

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#18 FanaFall
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I'm going to try beta out when I'm done studying for my Construction Managment class..

Any tips for a noob?

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You can take also screenshots if you didnt know op.
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#20 icygangsta
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You can take also screenshots if you didnt know op.  killzowned24

I didn't know this. Thanks. Awesome.

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Sounds very bland and generic.
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#22 Stoner-Pimp
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

i like the idea. but 128 people on each side.

and probley 60 yelling and cussing. is just to much.

i am not going to say it sucks. but i haven't played it.

but i don't see it being a great game

and then of course your going to have atleast 50 people on each team running around like idiots

That's not the way it works, it follows a military command setup, as such most people can only ever hear 7 peoples mics, this is the squad leader and the other 6 members of your squad, the squad leaders can communicate (i think) with each other and then it goes onto platton leaders and then the officer in charge, all commands get relayed down the chain of command so you never get full on mic spam. People can indeed run around the map like idiots BUT that happens in all games, i'm actully quite amazed at how well it works in domination mode (the 256 player mode), zipper have made it work nicely and this is only the beta.
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#23 Revolution316
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alot of socom guys will play mag so ya, it will be lots of team work

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#24 urdead18
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I loved Socom 2, dissapointed with MAG. Very dissapointed. Not even a rent anymore, before it was a 1 day buy.

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You can take also screenshots if you didnt know op.  killzowned24

Quite an unimpressive looking game, I must say. GameTrailers IW's podcast wasn't too kind to it, either.

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#26 RadecSupreme
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I thought the game was decent and I will definately buy. I mean, its all about teamwork and we can not judge the game based on one mode and 3 maps. The real game will have mass customization. The gunplay felt great. Its a little bit too dark but that might just be me. Of course, Lemmings will hate, cows will praise, and nonfanboys will have mixed opinions. The way system wars works.

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#27 treedoor
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]You can take also screenshots if you didnt know op. BioShockOwnz

Quite an unimpressive looking game, I must say. GameTrailers IW's podcast wasn't too kind to it, either.

Yah, but if it had better graphics it wouldn't pull off 256 players I'm sure.

And yah their podcast really turned me off from the game. I was actually interested in it, but the podcast flicked that realization switch on that said "Realize treedoor. You've been playing online games for 10 years now. Whenever people use mics it's 90% profanity, and hardly ever is there teamwork involved" :P

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#28 Solid_Tango
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Wow, but isnt a bit too chaotic with so many players `?
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#29 chaplainDMK
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So lets summerise what youre complaining over:
-Bad graphics (next thread all of em will be yapping over how gameplay>graphics and stuff like that)
-Mics... Ok guys wtf... You can only hear 7 people from your squad + your officer.
-Too many players... Some people dont want to shoot 4 guys on the enemy team all day long y'know?

Probably 3/4 of you didnt eaven play the game and your just yapping what other people say to you.

I didnt play the game and im gonna see whats going to come out of it. But as of now i dont see any major problems with it. BTW its the beta... As in a bug riddled pre release build...

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#30 James161324
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[QUOTE="James161324"]

i like the idea. but 128 people on each side.

and probley 60 yelling and cussing. is just to much.

i am not going to say it sucks. but i haven't played it.

but i don't see it being a great game

and then of course your going to have atleast 50 people on each team running around like idiots

Stoner-Pimp

That's not the way it works, it follows a military command setup, as such most people can only ever hear 7 peoples mics, this is the squad leader and the other 6 members of your squad, the squad leaders can communicate (i think) with each other and then it goes onto platton leaders and then the officer in charge, all commands get relayed down the chain of command so you never get full on mic spam. People can indeed run around the map like idiots BUT that happens in all games, i'm actully quite amazed at how well it works in domination mode (the 256 player mode), zipper have made it work nicely and this is only the beta.

ok thanks. not as bad as i thought.

but the graphics looks ps2ish.

and just a question there is no friendly fire right.

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#31 walbeb
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I don't see the hate with this game, even if the 256 player doesn't live up to expectations it's great to see a game pushing the boundries it can only make future games better in the future.

I'm excited for this game, like someone said a lot of socom guys will give this a try and socom players are some of the best i have ever had, (Warhawk when it comes to funny team mates and Gears of warfor stupid team mates haha i love gears.)

So let's hope this game pulls out:)

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#32 DeadMagazines
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Wow, but isnt a bit too chaotic with so many players `?Solid_Tango
You would think..since every thing you hear about this game is "256!" or "256!!!!"..its teams of 8 vs other teams of 8..you'd be lucky to see more than 5 people at once when you're on the ground.
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#33 finalstar2007
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Wow, but isnt a bit too chaotic with so many players `?Solid_Tango

Well not really. the maps are huge so you wont notice.. i played the beta and still playing it once in a week.. pretty fun and i must addmit there are just too many helpful people playing.. when i first started a lot of poeple got mics and all try to help those who just got in.. rpetty fun game mostly depends on your team work

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#34 _SWAG_
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i wouldnt say its chaotic because u dont actually see 256 on the same screen. the explosions and smoke looks pretty bad, the grenade throwing looks kinda funny, and people not having headsets will plague this game and not make it fun

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#35 Wasdie  Moderator
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This game is really big and kind of intimidating. Great feel to the weapons.

Lots of problems with it. More than I bother to say.

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[QUOTE="Solid_Tango"]Wow, but isnt a bit too chaotic with so many players `?DeadMagazines
You would think..since every thing you hear about this game is "256!" or "256!!!!"..its teams of 8 vs other teams of 8..you'd be lucky to see more than 5 people at once when you're on the ground.

Again that's not the way it works, it's not teams of 8 vs other teams of 8, your setup into these squads of 8 players for a reason, it's to give it all a command system so communication and tactics can be relayed quickly and easily (it's not so you can just have multiple 8v8 fights). I've actully played it and i've seen a lot more than 5 people at once, once you spawn you and your squad have access to the entire map with access to all 256 players, if you could organise it (and wanted to) you could make all 128 players in your team meet up and gank an enemy team for example. In the main mode (domination) everything in the game brings you to a central point on the map as such it ends up with a mass battle, the other day when i was playing there was a whole platoon of us (4x8 squads) defending a control point near the centre, we got engaged by an enemy platoon and from then on it was just all out war, that was over 60 of us in one area of the map, the thing is during all this is wasn't what i would call chaos, it actully works very well at the moment (remember this isn't final code, it's a beta).
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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

nVidiaGaMer

Because higher player count makes the game better.

Higher player counts mean larger maps and less spawn killing. Small maps with lots of people = craziness. So yeah in this case more players = better game and a fresh experience from the old 32 or less player thing in COD, Crysis, etc. COD4 had 64 (from what I recall and it was great).

So a constant frag fest, followed by trash talking each other, followed by some idiot who thinks he knows what he is doing yelling at everyone, followed by idiots who run around in the middle like idiots is supposed to be fun.... no thanks. Ill stick with KZ2, Halo 3, and CoD
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#38 box0rocks
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I really liked the beta and i will get this day-1 just i suck at it :P i get 9 kills and 22 deaths LOL but i really like it anyways because of the strategy and teamwork that is needed to win

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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Because higher player count makes the game better.

darthkirmy

Higher player counts mean larger maps and less spawn killing. Small maps with lots of people = craziness. So yeah in this case more players = better game and a fresh experience from the old 32 or less player thing in COD, Crysis, etc. COD4 had 64 (from what I recall and it was great).

So a constant frag fest, followed by trash talking each other, followed by some idiot who thinks he knows what he is doing yelling at everyone, followed by idiots who run around in the middle like idiots is supposed to be fun.... no thanks. Ill stick with KZ2, Halo 3, and CoD

complaining about the possibility of MAG being a frag fest then saying you will stick with Halo, KZ2 and COD O_o if you actually read any of the posts in the thread you will have read that the game works pretty well, with the max number of people on a map. im loving the beta and will defiantly be getting it on release, i see this testing as free practice and im making the most of it.
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#40 bobbetybob
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You found one good guy, lucky you, I bet that's the one out of 250 people that will actually play properly. People get really excited in Betas and try to play properly, when people buy it though, I can guarantee that people will be just as full of trash talk as most games
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#41 -RocBoys9489-
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Hyping this game A (7.5) Just doesn't look good at all tbqh
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#42 2-10-08
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So its 256 players, but you never actually see most of them, so the point of having that many players is?

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#43 jonesy1911
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Tis a good game indeed, should provide a tactical experiance rather than the run and gun of COD
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#44 bobbetybob
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So its 256 players, but you never actually see most of them, so the point of having that many players is?

2-10-08
Makes you feel like you're in a big war! Even though they could've just had a system with a faction leaderboard every week where one faction wins, that'd actually make you feel like you were in a bigger fight than just yours.
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#45 WilliamRLBaker
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so much for non disclosure agreements...

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#47 aaronmullan
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So its 256 players, but you never actually see most of them, so the point of having that many players is?

2-10-08
Actually at the end of the game, all 256 of you fight it out for the last objective.
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#50 mythrol
Member since 2005 • 5237 Posts

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I am confident this game will be terrible, and all you've done is reaffirm that by listing voice chat as an amazing feature of the game.

nVidiaGaMer

Your only saying that because no 360 game has 256 players online. You'd be hardpressed to find a PC fps with half as many players.

It's not the amount of people that make me think this game will suck. It's the fact that the guns don't even have recoil. . .I mean, COME ON.