Natal will require 4 metres of space

[QUOTE="MrJono789"]

I guess Natal is a no no for black people living in studio apartments then.

yanbuco2712

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I didn't know SW consisted of 'black people living in studio apartments' :roll:

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[QUOTE="MrJono789"]

I guess Natal is a no no for black people living in studio apartments then.

II_Seraphim_II

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I didn't know SW consisted of 'black people living in studio apartments' :roll:

You guys must live in some super small places. I'm no billionaire but my living room is more than large enough for that. Even when I had an apartment, the living room was big enough for this.Senor_Kami

You guys must live in some super small places. I'm no billionaire but my living room is more than large enough for that. Even when I had an apartment, the living room was big enough for this.Senor_Kami

This isn't so bad for me. My couches are already 10 feet away, so moving them back a few more feet isn't in issue.

But, I don't have a 360, so the only time I'd use natal is if a mate brings it over anyway.

I believe four meters is the maximum (eg, it has trouble seeing you if you're more than 4 meters away). The minimum amount of space needed to play Natal depends on the placement of the sensor and the height of the user.

I wasn't going to get it anyway, but this gives me a good reason.

So basically you need a 65" TV to sit at the correct viewing distance :lol:

wow. Really? wth.

anshul89

Seems like something is off with that statement, even their add had the family not to far away (only a meter or two away) not to count several of the given demonstrations. Plus to that this would be a clear over sight on the part of the engineers and programmers behind natal as obviously not everyone has that kind of space to give. .. As such I would say wait off judging doomsday until we hear more on this. At least another MS exec or demonstration about the space needed. alextherussian

they mustve forgotten to put "warning: objects are farther than they appear" at the end of the commercial :lol:

Now I have more reason to not buy this useless hardware.

Are they serious?:| I don't have that amount of space in front of my TV, so if I had a 360 I would definitely not get Natal now. This could turn ugly for many.

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

Natal is becoming more of a hassle than it is worth. Sony was right to stick with controllers for their motion stuff.

FAIL

I've got a big glass/wood coffee table in front of my TV, I'm not moving that every time. I had the same problem with Wii Fit, now a dust collector.

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]i doubt this is true, if the eyetoy can work at whatever distance and the milo demo had the woman standing pretty close i can't see this needing 4 metres. this will be to cover themselves when people stupidly kick their tv or table, the wii probably has something similar keeping a certain amount of distance around you, but you can sit a foot or so from the tv if you want. if this is true then it will be huge fail, but i doubt it.RABicle

Then there's also the fact that that Milo "demo" was faked (as were other aspects of the intro showing of Natal). A camera's field of view can be visualized as a cone eminating from the lense. So anything you want Natal to track must be in this cone and the distance required depends highly upon what needs to be tracked. At the fullest, for full body tracking, your height plus arm length up and to the side (plus more if you want to move around) must fall within the camera's view (and doubled side-wase if a second player is involved). Forward and back space must also be accounted for if you will be moving in that direction as well.

The part of keeping the area clear is not just for safety, but to not obstruct the camera's view, as well.

I highly doubt it's 4 meters. If it is, they will lose a lot of sales.

If this is true, how many of the potential natal buyers would actually know this information? Im pretty sure more than half of the people who bough the wii didnt know that it was mostly just "waggle" and were expecting a full 1:1 motion control...so as far as this affecting the natal sales I dont think it will at all, but it is extreme fail however

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

marcos27pr

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

BlackCat69er

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

WTF? I actually play my 360 more than my PS3 and Wii

The length of a door is roughly 2.5 meters, that camera is a far far greater distance away than that. Learn.

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[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

BlackCat69er

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

Its ok, natal will still sell. MS has always benefited from consumer ignorance..the general public will never learn of this SPACE issue like the hard drives, live, controller batteries and hardware failures. Until they're too invested and its too late

The 4 meters is to prevent injuries in case the Natal version of RROD makes the gadget explode and burn your face.RedruM_I

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[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

BlackCat69er

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

That is most definatly not 4 meters... that is 8 to 10 meters.

4 meters is a little more then 3/4 of the lenght of a full size sedan (5-5,5 meters)

I've never supported the NATAL idea since its inception. No matter how great it renders movements, without tactile input, it will feel empty and meaningless.

No worries here, I will not be buying into Natal or Move.

Really? That has to be a mistake.

I'm still optimistic about Natal and Move but I think Natal is the one that really needs to show how it's going to really work without a controller. EyeToy was really silly and I know the technology for Natal will better yet I think it's going to run into the same issues. Tactile input is important for a lot of people and how any action is communicated without it will be difficult.

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

tomarlyn

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

Thats not a Ramdom Picture I got that from a site Decoration For Garden

4Meters = 400CM

thats a bit over 13ft (most living rooms are 10fts ) From that Distace you cant even see your TV

I think that is a mistake. But if it isn't than no Natal for me...I play in my bedroom and hardly have 2 meters to spare. Does M$ think we all live in houses with 4 meters of space to spare for gaming?

so you have to clear your bedroom/living room of any furniture to properly use it? :lol:

another nail in natal's coffin :lol:

Its ok, natal will still sell. MS has always benefited from consumer ignorance..the general public will never learn of this SPACE issue like the hard drives, live, controller batteries and hardware failures. Until they're too invested and its too late

Zaibach

yea thats what i was saying before..the demographic natal is aimed at wont even be aware of this information until they get the thing and have to rearrange their rooms to get it to work right...unless sony or microsoft launch attack commercials showing thelimitations of natal compared to their motion control devices

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

marcos27pr

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

Thats not a Ramdom Picture I got that from a site Decoration For Garden

4Meters = 400CM

thats a bit over 13ft (most living rooms are 10fts ) From that Distace you cant even see your TV

That is not 4 meters. You can stand on your head singing the national anthem of Khazakstan and i still wont belive that's 4 meters.

And like he said, the door is probably 2 meters tall, if you can only fit 2 doors in the space betwen that and the house your need glasses.

4 meters is way to much. I think its more like 4 feet. EDIT : Average size of a living room is ~ 5 by 5 meters and bedrooms are usually smaller than a living room. Just saying because it depends on where you game but 4 meters ???? Im calling this BS, MS wouldn't make a silly mistake like that.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="marcos27pr"]

Do you guys even know how much its 4meters

Natal 2'in away

The Distace from that Camara to that House its 4Meters OBIOSLY you wont be that far to play Natal

marcos27pr

The height of a door is 2.5 meters

Thats not a Ramdom Picture I got that from a site Decoration For Garden

4Meters = 400CM

thats a bit over 13ft (most living rooms are 10fts ) From that Distace you cant even see your TV