And it is with the casual where it will sell the best.
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bingo....why go for what you already have when that won't expand your companies profit line. MS and Sony REALLY need to put some focus on the casual market and modeling their approach AFTER Nintendos' is the best way to do so. Follow the leader, not leap frog.What made the Wii a success? The hardcore? NO.
Microsoft already has the hardcore. They want Nintendo's share.
bphan
As is Move.
You think Sony and MS would try to tap into a market they already had? No. They'll both be going after the Wii fanbase
treedoor
Exactly.
I mean, Sony even laugh about the Wii, but now they want a piece of cake too.
If it is done right (like MP3 and the MP: Trilogy) Move controls for Socom could be down right incredible. I wouldn't brush it off yet because Nintendo has proven that motion controls can work EXTREMELY well and Move looks to be better then the Wii's current limitations (sry, but Wii motion + isn't really that impressive)..I think Sony's Move is already going to fail. Who wants to play Socom with move. I know I don't and none of my friends either. Sony is offering move controls for the hardcore which is the wrong market.
bphan
And it is with the casual where it will sell the best.
bphan
I find both of these breaking stories much more surprising then the announcement of motion controls selling more with "casual" players. Its common sense really... as long as one believes in the terms casual and hardcore. I don't think I really do.And in other news: the Pope is Catholic, and a bear was recently seen pooping in the woods.
sam_nintendo
Natal, Wii's waggle and Wand is all casual garbo fest. Gaming would've been better on Wii if it wasn't of its casual motion controls focus.silversix_Oh please like the most popular games on tez HARDCORE consoles aren't casual garbage themselves. Like MW2, Gears, Uncharted, ect...
[QUOTE="silversix_"]Natal, Wii's waggle and Wand is all casual garbo fest. Gaming would've been better on Wii if it wasn't of its casual motion controls focus.GeneralShowzerOh please like the most popular games on tez HARDCORE consoles aren't casual garbage themselves. Like MW2, Gears, Uncharted, ect... You do not understand the definition of ''casual'' I'm afraid.
[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Natal, Wii's waggle and Wand is all casual garbo fest. Gaming would've been better on Wii if it wasn't of its casual motion controls focus.tomarlynOh please like the most popular games on tez HARDCORE consoles aren't casual garbage themselves. Like MW2, Gears, Uncharted, ect... You do not understand the definition of ''casual'' I'm afraid. Casual play once or twice a week, games that take no skill or effort to play and have no learning curve.
[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Oh please like the most popular games on tez HARDCORE consoles aren't casual garbage themselves. Like MW2, Gears, Uncharted, ect...GeneralShowzerYou do not understand the definition of ''casual'' I'm afraid. Casual play once or twice a week, games that take no skill or effort to play and have no learning curve.
Sorry that is not MW2's, Gear's or Uncharted's demographic you are describing.
Its your own personal play style, which is quite uncommon.
[QUOTE="silversix_"]Natal, Wii's waggle and Wand is all casual garbo fest. Gaming would've been better on Wii if it wasn't of its casual motion controls focus.GeneralShowzerOh please like the most popular games on tez HARDCORE consoles aren't casual garbage themselves. Like MW2, Gears, Uncharted, ect...Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.
Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.silversix_Oh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game.
[QUOTE="silversix_"]Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.roxlimnOh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game. My GF has recently beaten Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age, normally she sticks to The Sims and Facebook games. That does not make them casual games with no skill or a learning curve, she had a hard time with them. What difficulty does your sister-in-law play at?
[QUOTE="roxlimn"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.tomarlynOh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game. My GF has recently beaten Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age, normally she sticks to The Sims and Facebook games. That does not make them casual games with no skill or a learning curve, she had a hard time with them. What difficulty does your sister-in-law play at? Generally, easy. Mass Effect 2 is also pathetically easy. It was so easy, I couldn't bring myself to stay awake long enough to finish the Soldier campaign on Insanity. That's quite literally, too. I literally fell asleep on my keyboard playing Soldier on Insanity. Dragon Age? It's a Bioware RPG, dude. Since when have those been hard? My wife can beat ME2 missions on Casual, no prob. You barely need to touch the guys with a bullet to down them, let alone use powers. She doesn't usually play shooters, either. She usually plays stuff like MySims or CafeWorld, or Rock Band. And not for very long, either. She's really more into the Dash series. She's a little more hardcore about those.
[QUOTE="silversix_"]Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.roxlimnOh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game.My 87 years old grandma that never touched a controller tryed MHTri, loved it and finished it becouse its VERY mainstream friendly... see wut i did there?
Oh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game.My 87 years old grandma that never touched a controller tryed MHTri, loved it and finished it becouse its VERY mainstream friendly... see wut i did there?[QUOTE="roxlimn"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.silversix_
Move and Natal will fail for 2 reasons;
They are both making a clear distinction between their hardcore and casual games, Nintendo is doing a great job of blending the 2 together.
Whatever MS and Sony comes up with this E3, Nintendo will counter at E3 2011 with Wii 2. With counter I don't mean copying and doing it slightly better (lol), no I mean they will come up with something that will overshadow what the others are trying to do.
Natal, Wii's waggle and Wand is all casual garbo fest. Gaming would've been better on Wii if it wasn't of its casual motion controls focus.silversix_That's why you don't work for Nintendo.
designer: It amused me once, too. Now, not so much. It isn't the Facebook playing crowd that annoys me. They're generally genial and open-minded. It's the console fools that really get my danders up.
Oh ho ho! Struck a nerve, have we? I'll have you know that Uncharted 2 is VERY mainstream friendly, because of the easy control scheme and the low level of skill and challenge. My sister-in-law never plays shooters OR platformers on any format, and she liked and finished that game.My 87 years old grandma that never touched a controller tryed MHTri, loved it and finished it becouse its VERY mainstream friendly... see wut i did there?[QUOTE="roxlimn"][QUOTE="silversix_"]Agree with MW2 but gears and uncharted? Get outta here imo... you sir don't know wtf *casual* means.silversix_
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